Limerick improvement projects

breezy1985

Who needs to park right outside a pub, jewellers or tobacconist. Limerick is full of lazy selfish people

Cookiemunster

breezy1985 wrote: »

Who needs to park right outside a pub, jewellers or tobacconist. Limerick is full of lazy selfish people

From a practical point of view I can understand pub deliveries needing to park outside the pub. They deliveries are bulky and heavy. There's absolutely no need for a jeweller or a tobacconist to have their delivery park outside the door though.

breezy1985

Cookiemunster wrote: »

From a practical point of view I can understand pub deliveries needing to park outside the pub. They deliveries are bulky and heavy. There's absolutely no need for a jeweller or a tobacconist to have their delivery park outside the door though.

I wasn't so much talking about the deliveries. The article says that the shops were concerned about drop in trade because people couldn't park outside.

Good luck to em cause hardly anyone wants to shop on that kip of a street

kilburn

breezy1985 wrote:

Good luck to em cause hardly anyone wants to shop on that kip of a street

I think people will shop based on a need rather than how the street looks.

When I smoked I would have gone to Cahills loved that shop real old Ireland.

breezy1985

kilburn wrote: »

I think people will shop based on a need rather than how the street looks.

When I smoked I would have gone to Cahills loved that shop real old Ireland.

So they shop based on need but a cycle lane is destroying business.

The whole idea of passing trade scuppers your whole shop by need idea

phog

breezy1985 wrote: »

Good luck to em cause hardly anyone wants to shop on that kip of a street

Yet, 3 of the businesses on the left have been there since before I ever shopped in town.

kilburn

breezy1985 wrote:

So they shop based on need but a cycle lane is destroying business.

breezy1985 wrote:

The whole idea of passing trade scuppers your whole shop by need idea

Do you just disagree for the sake of it Jesus my point is very clear.

People shop based on need if I want to go to Cahills a bicycle lane, loading bay, traffic lane or fire breathing Dragon is not going to change the fact me or someelse may want yo go to Cahills.....

breezy1985

kilburn wrote: »

Do you just disagree for the sake of it Jesus my point is very clear.

People shop based on need if I want to go to Cahills a bicycle lane, loading bay, traffic lane or fire breathing Dragon is not going to change the fact me or someelse may want yo go to Cahills.....

I actually agree with you about going out of need especially for a specialist shop like Cahill's.
It's the shops that are forever crying about the loss of passing trade so it is they who disagree with the "shopping by need" argument.

what_traffic

Based on the photos in this article and twitter links in the Limerick Leader article,
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/595113/bollards-removed-from-narrow-limerick-street.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

it will still be "illegal" to enter the cycle lane as it has a SOLID white line between it and the traffic lane on Wickam Street may need a pole along the street to state that it is a cycle lane though.
Not clear if there is one?

breezy1985

what_traffic wrote: »

Based on the photos in this article and twitter links in the Limerick Leader article,
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/595113/bollards-removed-from-narrow-limerick-street.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

it will still be "illegal" to enter the cycle lane as it has a SOLID white line between it and the traffic lane on Wickam Street may need a pole along the street to state that it is a cycle lane though.
Not clear if there is one?

People won't care if there is a pole or not just like they don't care about double yellow lines.
More fines and penalty points is the only way to make em care

what_traffic

breezy1985 wrote: »

People won't care if there is a pole or not just like they don't care about double yellow lines.
More fines and penalty points is the only way to make em care

Aware of that - but just curious was there a pole up.
Perhaps thats the Councils way of not implementing technically legal road infrastructure here then?

johnnyryan89

what_traffic wrote: »

Based on the photos in this article and twitter links in the Limerick Leader article,
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/595113/bollards-removed-from-narrow-limerick-street.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

it will still be "illegal" to enter the cycle lane as it has a SOLID white line between it and the traffic lane on Wickam Street may need a pole along the street to state that it is a cycle lane though.
Not clear if there is one?

Should just pedestrianise the street and turn Upper Gerald Griffin St into a two way street.

breezy1985

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Should just pedestrianise the street and turn Upper Gerald Griffin St into a two way street.

Pedestrianisation would lead to all the same howls of don't change anything ever from the shops too.

Some people think everything should stay exactly like it looked in the fake rose tinted image of their youth

mdmix

Cookiemunster wrote: »

From a practical point of view I can understand pub deliveries needing to park outside the pub. They deliveries are bulky and heavy. There's absolutely no need for a jeweller or a tobacconist to have their delivery park outside the door though.

I saw Charlie Chaplin getting a delivery earlier today, the Guinness lads seemed happy enough to carry the barrels from the Dominicans to the pub. I’m sure it’s preferable to park as close as possible, but no harm in moving these 10-20 meters if needed

johnnyryan89

mdmix wrote: »

I saw Charlie Chaplin getting a delivery earlier today, the Guinness lads seemed happy enough to carry the barrels from the Dominicans to the pub. I’m sure it’s preferable to park as close as possible, but no harm in moving these 10-20 meters if needed

Sure they could have just used that massive loading bay/parking space around the corner on William St that everyone seems to use anyway.

Gary Owen

mdmix wrote: »

I saw Charlie Chaplin getting a delivery earlier today, the Guinness lads seemed happy enough to carry the barrels from the Dominicans to the pub. I’m sure it’s preferable to park as close as possible, but no harm in moving these 10-20 meters if needed

It’s a fair distance from the Dominicans to Charlie Chaplins and rolling a few 50 litre kegs would be no mean feat . Those boys usually back up Chapel lane and drop the kegs right outside the door

breezy1985

Distance wise William St. to Flannerys wouldnt be a problem Ive done longer trips with drops way bigger than what Flannerys would be getting in and often getting them to the pub is the easy part its once you are inside that sucks. Trying to get a keg trolley round all the lamp posts and traffic lights stuck right in the middle of the path might be a problem though

sioda

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The double parkers have won! https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/595113/bollards-removed-from-narrow-limerick-street.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Morons just morons more businesses for my ever increasing list of not going into. As someone who lives and works in town this sort of thing just mystifies me. There seems to be a general we don't want change from the established business and please try from the new ones which for a city in the retail state that Limerick is in is just not sustainable.

breezy1985

If delivery trucks park on the cycle lane will they not be blocking the road anyway? he cycle lane isnt big enough to fit a whole truck.

And as for ambulances not being able to fit down the street she can just F right off.

I wonder what Cllr O'Brien thinks about all the illegal parking in the city

phog

breezy1985 wrote: »

If delivery trucks park on the cycle lane will they not be blocking the road anyway? he cycle lane isnt big enough to fit a whole truck.

When there were two lanes of traffic on Wickham St a truck could block the left lane while doing deliveries and other vehicles could pass on the right lane.

breezy1985

phog wrote: »

When there were two lanes of traffic on Wickham St a truck could block the left lane while doing deliveries and other vehicles could pass on the right lane.

Fair enough. I couldn't really remember doesn't look big enough for the big keg trucks.

mdmix

phog wrote: »

When there were two lanes of traffic on Wickham St a truck could block the left lane while doing deliveries and other vehicles could pass on the right lane.

when there were 2 lanes, there was a very narrow footpath on both sides. Disabled people could not fit a wheelchair on the footpath on either side of the road. while a buggy would just about fit you would have had to leave the path to get around poles on the footpath. That street was always too narrow for 2 lanes.

currently, deliveries are blocking the footpath and the cycle lane

breezy1985

mdmix wrote: »

when there were 2 lanes, there was a very narrow footpath on both sides. Disabled people could not fit a wheelchair on the footpath on either side of the road. while a buggy would just about fit you would have had to leave the path to get around poles on the footpath. That street was always too narrow for 2 lanes.

currently, deliveries are blocking the footpath and the cycle lane

I think you can see where the old footpath ended because the have left the lampposts in the same spot now in the middle of the path.

I don't mind I delivery truck parking up if they have to and there wouldn't be that many in a week anyway. it's all the private cars that ruin it for everyone same as down on Parnell St.

Jofspring

Just saw this now. I can't believe the council have taken away the bollards. You can't park in the lane end of story, bollards or no bollards. Another example of why this city is being run into the ground. Disgraceful from the business owners as well to be honest.

mart 23

Aldi and Lidl have or will have new planning applications for Roches street and Dock road sites . Some of Aldi cladding does not look good.

Cookiemunster

mart 23 wrote: »

Aldi and Lidl have or will have new planning applications for Roches street and Dock road sites . Some of Aldi cladding does not look good.

From what I could see in their further information reply, nothing has really changed on the Lidl Dock Rd application. They've simply pointed out to the council that there's nothing wrong with their application according to current planning laws. Ballsy move really.

I haven't seen the Aldi one yet, but AFAIK its just another further information reply rather than a new application.

breezy1985

mart 23 wrote: »

Aldi and Lidl have or will have new planning applications for Roches street and Dock road sites . Some of Aldi cladding does not look good.

Where on Roches St. are they looking at ?

Cookiemunster

breezy1985 wrote: »

Where on Roches St. are they looking at ?

The empty lot behind all the hoarding.

breezy1985

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The empty lot behind all the hoarding.

There is no empty lot. I assume you mean the Eir staff car park

adaminho

breezy1985 wrote: »

There is no empty lot. I assume you mean the Eir staff car park

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/news/596503/discount-retailer-gives-update-on-plans-for-new-limerick-store.html