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light bulbs

  • 06-09-2012 10:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭


    Thats it... the second 'energy saving' light bulb has gone in the last two weeks. They charge a few euros per bulb gauranteeing they last for 10 years so you save in the long run...a load of b@#%&*k
    At the most they have lasted about 3 years.
    I have made up my mind, I am buying the cheaper yet costlier to run in the short term as I think its all a scam.

    Burn baby burn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,873 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Turn your electric off at the mains....everyones a winner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Thats it... the second 'energy saving' light bulb has gone in the last two weeks. They charge a few euros per bulb gauranteeing they last for 10 years so you save in the long run...a load of b@#%&*k
    At the most they have lasted about 3 years.
    I have made up my mind, I am buying the cheaper yet costlier to run in the short term as I think its all a scam.

    Burn baby burn.

    I thought these were banned years ago, but keep seeing them around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Candle light is very romantic, I suppose ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Thats it... the second 'energy saving' light bulb has gone in the last two weeks. They charge a few euros per bulb gauranteeing they last for 10 years so you save in the long run...a load of b@#%&*k
    At the most they have lasted about 3 years.
    I have made up my mind, I am buying the cheaper yet costlier to run in the short term as I think its all a scam.

    Burn baby burn.

    I thought these were banned years ago, but keep seeing them around.

    I know a couple of shady dealers in light bulbs who can fix you up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    By switching off a 60w lightbulb for 6 hours you will have saved enough energy to light a 60w lightbulb for 6 hours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭BluesBerry


    Yeah I heard the energy saver bulbs are not good for you they emit something toxic causing headaches and other health problems I wont use them in my lamps but have them in overhead lights when they burn out I will go back to the original bulb. but they dont last the ten years as stated its a scam


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    By switching off a 60w lightbulb for 6 hours you will have saved enough energy to light a 60w lightbulb for 6 hours.

    admiralofthefleet, you have blinded me with your mathematical genius, bravo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    Are you using them with a dimmer switch ? Don't think they like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Shops can no longer buy incandescent light bulbs for sale as of last Saturday so you'd want to hurry up. Existing stock can still be sold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    Bigcheeze wrote: »
    Are you using them with a dimmer switch ? Don't think they like that

    No, I don't think the energy bulbs work properly on dimmers, it causes global warming or something


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    dasdog wrote: »
    Shops can no longer buy incandescent light bulbs for sale as of last Saturday so you'd want to hurry up. Existing stock can still be sold.
    Causing old style light bulbs to become another best seller at your local car-boot sale. "Psst, wanna buy some 100 watters Bud??"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    BluesBerry wrote: »
    Yeah I heard the energy saver bulbs are not good for you they emit something toxic causing headaches and other health problems I wont use them in my lamps but have them in overhead lights when they burn out I will go back to the original bulb. but they dont last the ten years as stated its a scam


    Do you work in an office or shop?


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    They don't work on dimmers, hang on to the box you buy them in and the receipt if they're guaranteed for 10 years I'd expect no less or else a replacement. Free bulbs for life :D

    By the way it's the same with LED down lights 20,000 - 50,000 hours gauranteed bring them back if they fail earlier and they'll replace them with new ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    Once upon a time incandescent bulbs lasted a lot longer than 10 years, but then some manufacturers decided to become greedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Scrappychimow


    Rude dog and the dweebs...............


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    Pottler wrote: »
    dasdog wrote: »
    Shops can no longer buy incandescent light bulbs for sale as of last Saturday so you'd want to hurry up. Existing stock can still be sold.
    Causing old style light bulbs to become another best seller at your local car-boot sale. "Psst, wanna buy some 100 watters Bud??"

    Might be a good opening here, invest all life savings in old light bulbs and make a tidy profit in the future....probably a better investment than gold....


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Might be a good opening here, invest all life savings in old light bulbs and make a tidy profit in the future....probably a better investment than gold....


    Let me know how that works out for ya :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    Owen_S wrote: »
    Once upon a time incandescent bulbs lasted a lot longer than 10 years, but then some manufacturers decided to become greedy.

    Yep. That's pretty much the case. Those bastards could last for decades if they wanted to make them so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    leeomurchu wrote: »
    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Might be a good opening here, invest all life savings in old light bulbs and make a tidy profit in the future....probably a better investment than gold....


    Let me know how that works out for ya :D

    Might not have time....due to the international lifestyle all the trappings will bring...


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Might not have time....due to the international lifestyle all the trappings will bring...

    Some might say it'll light up your world :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    leeomurchu wrote: »
    Some might say it'll light up your world :D
    Don't slag, dimmer ideas than that have led to light bulb moments. I think we've spotted a glimmer of light for economic recovery. Watt is the downlight, sorry, downside?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The energy saving ones are useless for any room where they're not going to be switched on for long. They don't put out enough light until they heat up. I wonder how many get left on because of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭MrGeneric


    BluesBerry wrote: »
    Yeah I heard the energy saver bulbs are not good for you they emit something toxic causing headaches and other health problems I wont use them in my lamps but have them in overhead lights when they burn out I will go back to the original bulb. but they dont last the ten years as stated its a scam

    That is nonsense. They emit heat and light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Have one here still in it's box, 10 year (10000 hour) guarantee. That's less than 3 hours a day usage. Most of them are guaranteed for that amount of usage. So, it's really based on hours used, not longevity. Bit misleading unless you read the small print.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    MrGeneric wrote: »
    That is nonsense. They emit heat and light.

    Correct. There are plenty of myths around, many due to the tiny tiny amount of mercury used in the energy saving bulbs.

    Also, whomever gave them the name 'energy saving bulbs.' is an idiot. They would have sold better if named 'money saving bulbs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Might be a good opening here, invest all life savings in old light bulbs and make a tidy profit in the future....probably a better investment than gold....

    http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/bowie15/bowie151110/bowie15111000060/1g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭Nodster


    I'm only got 6 x 200w bulbs left :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,568 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    isn't there a bulb still going from the 1800's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Skerries wrote: »
    isn't there a bulb still going from the 1800's?

    That sounds familiar.

    And so it is.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭teddansonswig




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    dasdog wrote: »
    Shops can no longer buy incandescent light bulbs for sale as of last Saturday so you'd want to hurry up. Existing stock can still be sold.

    you mean up until then you could? fuck you dad, he told me they stopped ages ago :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Prick!


    You're doing it wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Energy saving bulbs are the such annoying, pointless pointless things. I thought the point of new technology was to be better than old technology, to make life easier not ****ing harder, but they are just forlack of a better word retarded.

    They take ages to brighten up, incandescent bulbs or bulbs which you have to wait for light up, hmm incandescent bulbs. And an incandescent is still brighter IMHO even when the bloody thing does light up.

    They don't work with dimmers, my mother but one into our sitting room light, I walked in, turned on the light and nearly had a seizure, it was like the ****test rave ever. Incandescent bulbs don't do that.

    They claim to be expensive in the short term but cheaper in the long run, they are not they always blow and what are you going to do, document every hour that they are on so I can take them back if they don't reach the 10000 hours. Incandescent bulbs are MUCH cheaper to buy and last just as long IMHO.

    So there really is no upside to them as far as I can see, but yet we all have to buy them because they are "energy saving" even though they fail to match up to the older product in every single way apart from one. Stupidity of the highest ****ing order:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Intensive Care Bear


    kowloon wrote: »
    That sounds familiar.

    And so it is.

    I'm an electrician and speaking from a professional point of view i would love to smash that bulb with a hammer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Prick!


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Energy saving bulbs are the such annoying, pointless pointless things. I thought the point of new technology was to be better than old technology, to make life easier not ****ing harder, but they are just forlack of a better word retarded.

    They take ages to brighten up, incandescent bulbs or bulbs which you have to wait for light up, hmm incandescent bulbs. And an incandescent is still brighter IMHO even when the bloody thing does light up.

    They don't work with dimmers, my mother but one into our sitting room light, I walked in, turned on the light and nearly had a seizure, it was like the ****test rave ever. Incandescent bulbs don't do that.

    They claim to be expensive in the short term but cheaper in the long run, they are not they always blow and what are you going to do, document every hour that they are on so I can take them back if they don't reach the 10000 hours. Incandescent bulbs are MUCH cheaper to buy and last just as long IMHO.

    So there really is no upside to them as far as I can see, but yet we all have to buy them because they are "energy saving" even though they fail to match up to the older product in every single way apart from one. Stupidity of the highest ****ing order:mad:

    They're energy savers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Prick! wrote: »
    They're energy savers.

    As was stated but they fall short in every other way, in my opinion, therefore it is a poor product, and poorer than its predecessor, the lowly incandescent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭floatwinner


    1210m5g wrote: »
    I'm an electrician and speaking from a professional point of view i would love to smash that bulb with a hammer.

    Why would you want to do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,133 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I'm surprised anyone needs lightbulbs in Ireland, being as we're all incandescent with rage.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,520 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    1210m5g wrote: »
    I'm an electrician and speaking from a professional point of view i would love to smash that bulb with a hammer.

    It does have that smug look to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    I'll tell you something that will light up your face...









    Light bulb eyes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    1210m5g wrote: »
    I'm an electrician and speaking from a professional point of view i would love to smash that bulb with a hammer.

    I'll hold the ladder for you.
    Why would you want to do that?

    Because it thinks it's the sh1t compared to other bulbs with its lighting up like it's a good idea or something. Might knock the smile off of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭bhamsteve


    Energy saving bulbs do last longer, maybe not as long as they claim but all the bulbs in our house are still the original ones after nearly 3 years.

    A 100 watt light-bulb used for 12 hours per day would use over 400khw per year (around €60). An energy saving bulb would use a fraction of that.

    As the electricity used to power the light bulb comes from the inneficient burning of fossil fuels, the single 100W lightbulb would require 160kg of coal to provide light for the year and produce around 1kg sulfur dioxide, 1kg nitrogen oxide and 100kg of CO2.

    They are cost effective, much better for the environment and need changing less often, make your own mind up.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/question481.htm


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Energy saving bulbs are the such annoying, pointless pointless things. I thought the point of new technology was to be better than old technology, to make life easier not ****ing harder, but they are just forlack of a better word retarded.

    They take ages to brighten up, incandescent bulbs or bulbs which you have to wait for light up, hmm incandescent bulbs. And an incandescent is still brighter IMHO even when the bloody thing does light up.

    They don't work with dimmers, my mother but one into our sitting room light, I walked in, turned on the light and nearly had a seizure, it was like the ****test rave ever. Incandescent bulbs don't do that.

    They claim to be expensive in the short term but cheaper in the long run, they are not they always blow and what are you going to do, document every hour that they are on so I can take them back if they don't reach the 10000 hours. Incandescent bulbs are MUCH cheaper to buy and last just as long IMHO.

    So there really is no upside to them as far as I can see, but yet we all have to buy them because they are "energy saving" even though they fail to match up to the older product in every single way apart from one. Stupidity of the highest ****ing order:mad:

    I couldn't agree more.
    bhamsteve wrote: »
    Energy saving bulbs do last longer, maybe not as long as they claim but all the bulbs in our house are still the original ones after nearly 3 years.

    A 100 watt light-bulb used for 12 hours per day would use over 400khw per year (around €60). An energy saving bulb would use a fraction of that.

    As the electricity used to power the light bulb comes from the inneficient burning of fossil fuels, the single 100W lightbulb would require 160kg of coal to provide light for the year and produce around 1kg sulfur dioxide, 1kg nitrogen oxide and 100kg of CO2.

    They are cost effective, much better for the environment and need changing less often, make your own mind up.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/question481.htm

    You really shouldn't be turning on lights for 12 hours a day. The whole problem that led to the introduction of these awful light bulbs is due to idiots that never turn off lights when they don't need them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    bhamsteve wrote: »
    Energy saving bulbs do last longer, maybe not as long as they claim but all the bulbs in our house are still the original ones after nearly 3 years.

    A 100 watt light-bulb used for 12 hours per day would use over 400khw per year (around €60). An energy saving bulb would use a fraction of that.

    As the electricity used to power the light bulb comes from the inneficient burning of fossil fuels, the single 100W lightbulb would require 160kg of coal to provide light for the year and produce around 1kg sulfur dioxide, 1kg nitrogen oxide and 100kg of CO2.

    They are cost effective, much better for the environment and need changing less often, make your own mind up.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/question481.htm
    Finally a bit of sense. :)

    I switched over to CFL bulbs house-wide about 6 years ago and would never dream of going back to incandescents, and as with many things if you buy cheap crap it won't last, a good quality CLF does last literally years longer than an incandescent no question whatsoever, and makes a huge difference to the ESB bill. As for amount of light emitted, the ones I have range from 5w (= 25w regular) up to 200w = (1000w regular) so the amount of light you "get" is up to you and your ability to use logic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭bhamsteve


    I couldn't agree more.



    You really shouldn't be turning on lights for 12 hours a day. The whole problem that led to the introduction of these awful light bulbs is due to idiots that never turn off lights when they don't need them.

    And you only have one lightbulb in your house? During the winter we would have some form of lighting on in more than one room from around 4pm until hitting the sack.
    If you really think it is worth the additional expense and damage to the environment for the functionality of an old style bulb, and you can source them, then work away.
    If the government chose to ban them, I'd go along with that, or tax them at a rate that makes them unaffordable, great.
    There are some things more important than your dimmer switch. Get over it.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    And in the summer you don't need to turn any light bulbs on at all...


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,592 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I have a bulb that is on nearly 7000 hours usage (avg 9 hours at night for the last 2 years, evey night).

    Am i correct in thinking its better to leave a bulb on, then be switching it on and off, as that uses more power?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    bhamsteve wrote: »

    The whole point of this thread is that we CAN'T make our own minds up, the Euronazis have decided that we must take an evolutionary step backwards to make their carbon books balance.

    Next we'll be told to take cold showers and wear wooly jumpers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Never mind your lightbulbs and candles, you will always be replacing them. What you need is a contraption that will save daylight during the day and then you let it back out slowing during the evening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭bhamsteve


    enda1 wrote: »
    The whole point of this thread is that we CAN'T make our own minds up, the Euronazis have decided that we must take an evolutionary step backwards to make their carbon books balance.

    Next we'll be told to take cold showers and wear wooly jumpers!

    Right you are. I'm going to read 1984 by the light of my arc welder as an act of defiance.


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