Your pick for first Ireland XI

Pa Dee

Assuming all players are available ......

4 - 5 - 1

Westwood
Coleman
Dunne
O'Shea
Clark
McClean
Andrews
McCarthy
Gibson
McGeady
Long

syngindub

Pa Dee wrote: »

Assuming all players are available ......

4 - 5 - 1

Westwood
Coleman
Dunne
O'Shea
Clark
McClean
Andrews
McCarthy
Gibson
McGeady
Long

no S.Ireland ?

20 Times 20 Times

Westwood

Coleman Dunne O'Shea Clark
McClean Gibson McCarthy McGeady

Long walters

Neil3030

Little Pea wrote: »

Westwood

Coleman Dunne O'Shea Clark
McClean Gibson McCarthy McGeady

Long walters

I'd swap O'Shea and Clark, otherwise this.

TheBuilder

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Westwood

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-Coleman--Dunne---O'Shea--Clark-

-McGeady--Gibson--McCarthy--McClean-

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Walters

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Long

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ScummyMan

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Westwood

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Coleman-Dunne-O'Shea-Clark
McGeady-Andrews-McCarthy-McClean

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Hoolahan

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Long

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noodler

Westwood

Kelly Dunne St Ledger O'Shea

McGeady - Andrews - McCarthy (although a leap of faith on my part) - McClean (another leap of faith)

Walters/Long - Keane


Doyle was out of my XI until last night and has made me reconsider but he's facing a tough season of Championship football so I'd have to opt with the above combo for now.

Pa Dee

noodler wrote: »

Westwood

Kelly Dunne St Ledger O'Shea

McGeady - Andrews - McCarthy (although a leap of faith on my part) - McClean (another leap of faith)

Walters/Long - Keane


Doyle was out of my XI until last night and has made me reconsider but he's facing a tough season of Championship football so I'd have to opt with the above combo for now.

Can't see how you would have Keane in the team

BOHtox

I have no idea what people see in O'Shea anymore. He's shocking. His distribution is terrible, going forward he's terrible and defensively he's not a shadow of his former self.

Westwood
Kelly Dunne St.Ledger Ward
McGeady Andrews McCarthy McLean
Keane Walters

nbar12

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Gary Breen

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-Breen--Breen--Breen--Breen-

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Breen

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Breen

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Skylinehead

BOHtox wrote: »

I have no idea what people see in O'Shea anymore. He's shocking. His distribution is terrible, going forward he's terrible and defensively he's not a shadow of his former self.

Westwood
Kelly Dunne St.Ledger Ward
McGeady Andrews McCarthy McLean
Keane Walters

O'Shea is still very good at centre-half. Shocking fullback though.

mackeire

nbar12 wrote: »

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Gary Breen

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-Breen--Breen--Breen--Breen-

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Breen

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Breen

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7 gary breen subs.
manager: gary breen.

Seaneh

GK: Westwood

RB: Coleman
CB: O'Shea
CB: Dunne/Clark
LB: Wilson

RW: McGeady
Lw: MCClean

DM: Whelan
CM: MCCarthy
CM: Gibson

CF: Long.

alang184

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Westwood

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Coleman - Dunne - O'Shea - Ward

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Whelan

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McGeady - Gibson - McCarthy - McClean

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Long

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ScummyMan

Whelan can fcuk right off imo, its disgraceful how poor he is. I wouldn't have him in the squad never mind the team. His passing is atrocious, I really don't see what he brings to the team.

Flincher

Westwood

Kelly--Dunne--Clark--Wilson

Coleman--McCarthy--Andrews--Gibson--McClean

Long

Jimmy Iovine

4-5-1

Westwood
Coleman
Dunne
O'Shea
Clark
McClean
Andrews
McCarthy
Gibson
McGeady
Jimmy Iovine

Similar to the OP's team but I decided to put myself in as the lone striker. I've been working hard in recent weeks and feel that I should be on that team.

LostBoy101

If I were to pick the XI it would be:

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Westwood

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Coleman

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Dunne

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Clark

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Foley
McGeady

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Ireland

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McCarthy

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McClean

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Hoolahan

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Long

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Bench: S. Henderson, Wilson, St Ledge, Brady, Gibson, Walters and Cox.

A new fresh generation with some veterans.

Vurnon San Benito

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Westwood

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Coleman

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Dunne

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Clark

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McCarthy

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Andrews

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Pilkington

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Ireland ---- Hoolahan ---

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Long

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Walters

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alang184

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

Whelan can fcuk right off imo, its disgraceful how poor he is. I wouldn't have him in the squad never mind the team. His passing is atrocious, I really don't see what he brings to the team.

Why is he a regular starter in Stoke then? (Stoke being a team notorious for troubling "better" teams, in particular at home)

Ireland are never going to win pretty with 3 mid-fielders passing with ease. Whelan is a worker - closes down, tackles, makes it tough for the opposition - same style as Mascherano. Ireland need some of that in its teams if it's going to compete with Sweden, Austria etc.

ScummyMan

alang184 wrote: »

Why is he a regular starter in Stoke then? (Stoke being a team notorious for troubling "better" teams, in particular at home)

Ireland are never going to win pretty with 3 mid-fielders passing with ease. Whelan is a worker - closes down, tackles, makes it tough for the opposition - same style as Mascherano. Ireland need some of that in its teams if it's going to compete with Sweden, Austria etc.

I'm just going on what I've seen in a green shirt, we all know that club form isn't always a good indicator of how they play internationally.

I cannot comprehend how an international midfielder can have such a poor range of passing. Yes it may not be his role to be a playmaker, but I'd at least expect him to make 5 yard passes and look for possesion from the backline.

He does make some attempt at closing down, but he's average at best defensively and got caught out of position numerous times leaving the defence un protected. Andrews and McCarthy are both better defenders than Whelen, but they can pass the ball aswell.

what a day

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Westwood

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Coleman----Dunne----O'Shea----Clark

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Ireland----Whelan

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-Lawrance

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McClean-

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Long

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Doyle

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Basically any one that Trap does not want to play. P.S Ireland should never play for us again, id play Andy Reid before Ireland.
McCarthy instead of Ireland

G.K.

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Westwood

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Kelly--Dunne--Clark--Wilson

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McGeady--Gibson--McCarthy--McClean

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Ireland

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Long

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Subs: Henderson, Randolph, Sledge, O'Shea, White/Cunningham, Coleman, Meyler, Andrews, Hoolahan, Pilkington, Walters, Cox

Hard to leave out Keane and Doyle but it's just my opinion

Liam O

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Westwood

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Kelly---O'Shea---Dunne---Wilson

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Clark

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McGeady---McCarthy---McClean

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Gibson

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Long

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Very tough decisions though, dropping Gibson back and throwing on a second striker and moving Clark around the back 4 is always an option with Dunne and O'Shea aging. Coleman was the difficult one to leave out too but he'd play plenty rotating with Kelly and the wingers. Whelan, Andrews and the rest of the current crop could still have a role in the squad but wouldn't be key to the team like they are now.

CSF

Westwood

Coleman
O'Shea
Clark
Dunne
McCarthy
Ireland
Andrews
McClean
McGeady
Long

IvySlayer

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

4-5-1

Westwood
Coleman
Dunne
O'Shea
Clark
McClean
Andrews
McCarthy
Gibson
McGeady
Jimmy Iovine

Similar to the OP's team but I decided to put myself in as the lone striker. I've been working hard in recent weeks and feel that I should be on that team.

But jimmy ainty your rela name!

Predalien

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Westwood

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Kelly----O'Shea----Dunne----Wilson----
Coleman----McCarthy----Andrews----McClean

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McGeady

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Long

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noodler

Pa Dee wrote: »

Can't see how you would have Keane in the team

Really?

Even after the fact he has scored over 50% of all our competitive goals under Trap?

Whatever about who should have started or came on last night, thank **** it was Keane who was on the pitch to take that peno.

A serious pressure kick.

noodler

alang184 wrote: »

Why is he a regular starter in Stoke then? (Stoke being a team notorious for troubling "better" teams, in particular at home)

Ireland are never going to win pretty with 3 mid-fielders passing with ease. Whelan is a worker - closes down, tackles, makes it tough for the opposition - same style as Mascherano. Ireland need some of that in its teams if it's going to compete with Sweden, Austria etc.

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

I'm just going on what I've seen in a green shirt, we all know that club form isn't always a good indicator of how they play internationally.

I cannot comprehend how an international midfielder can have such a poor range of passing. Yes it may not be his role to be a playmaker, but I'd at least expect him to make 5 yard passes and look for possesion from the backline.

He does make some attempt at closing down, but he's average at best defensively and got caught out of position numerous times leaving the defence un protected. Andrews and McCarthy are both better defenders than Whelen, but they can pass the ball aswell.

I've seen Whelan do alot more in a Stoke shirt.

Like all our midfielders, he is slightly hamstrung by the system.

Stoner

Gk Westwood

RB: Coleman
CB: O'Shea
CB: Dunne/Clark
LB: Wilson

RW: McGeady
Lw: MCClean/duff

DM: Andrews
CM: MCCarthy
CM: Gibson

CF: Long/doyle

Seaneh

People putting Andrews as a DM.

Have you watched him play?

The man can't tackle, he throws himself about but he's pretty poor positionally in defence and his tackling is abysmal.

He is good getting forward and getting onto second balls, shooting from the edge of the box, getting on crosses etc but he's not a defensive player at all.

noodler

Seaneh wrote: »

People putting Andrews as a DM.

Have you watched him play?

The man can't tackle, he throws himself about but he's pretty poor positionally in defence and his tackling is abysmal.

He is good getting forward and getting onto second balls, shooting from the edge of the box, getting on crosses etc but he's not a defensive player at all.

I'd say its because he has played a defensive role in the Irish midfield for about 4 years now.

And in terms of what constitutes success for the Irish football team, a play-off and qualification would indicate he hasn't been that bad at all.

Stoner

Seaneh wrote: »

People putting Andrews as a DM.

Have you watched him play?

The man can't tackle, he throws himself about but he's pretty poor positionally in defence and his tackling is abysmal.

He is good getting forward and getting onto second balls, shooting from the edge of the box, getting on crosses etc but he's not a defensive player at all.

He won good ball against France, and had a case as the only potential leader from Poland, he's in my team because he has a passion that I admire and miss in recent games.

Seaneh

He could be in the team in a 4-5-1, no problem.

But not as an anchor man.

As one of the two advanced cm's he'd be soild.

Stoner

It shows all the same though, we have plenty of options, not much mention for Pearce though.

MagicIRL

No-one rates Brady for a sub, even? Clearly not first team starting material (yet) - Watching him in United's pre-season I though he looked decent, with some nice pace about him too.

Seaneh

MagicIRL wrote: »

No-one rates Brady for a sub, even? Clearly not first team starting material (yet) - Watching him in United's pre-season I though he looked decent, with some nice pace about him too.

I think he needs to go out on loan again this season if he isn't going to stall, he need to be playing competitive football right now and he won't get much chance of that at United this season.

skippy15

Seaneh wrote: »

People putting Andrews as a DM.

Have you watched him play?

The man can't tackle, he throws himself about but he's pretty poor positionally in defence and his tackling is abysmal.

He is good getting forward and getting onto second balls, shooting from the edge of the box, getting on crosses etc but he's not a defensive player at all.

Fully agree Andrews is our problem in CM, I am actually a massive fan of Whelan for Ireland as our DM. Solid player puts good shift in, on player ratings id say he is prob top player for Ireland the last while, or at least up there

O shea looks shocking at full back, buut dunne st ledger look solid so sorry no o shea.
Keane is so frustrating, makes very few teams- but as mentions scores so many goals, id prob injure him so didnt have make choice

Mr.Nice Guy

I'm always surprised to see so many people wanting Coleman at right-back. I don't think Moyes has confidence he can do the role for Everton.

noodler

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I'm always surprised to see so many people wanting Coleman at right-back. I don't think Moyes has confidence he can do the role for Everton.

Its true.

The idea of a an attacking pacey full back is just very sexy for most people.

I actually have no idea what Coleman is like when defending.

matrim

Clark isn't a left back. He can play there in a pinch but would be a liability there against any decent wingers.

Give him another couple of months of first team football with Villa and if he can knock out the silly mistakes he will be a great option for us at CB but not LB.

Al Capwned

Paddy Kenny
Coleman, Dunne, O'Shea, Wilson
McGeady, Gibson, McCarthy, McClean,
Long, Doyle.

Skippy44

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Westwood

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Kelly

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Dunne

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Clark

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Wilson

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McCarthy--Gibson

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Ireland

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Walters

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McClean
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Long

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Subs:Randolph, O'Shea, Coleman, Ward, St Ledger, Andrews, Whelan, Pilkington, Hoolahan, Doyle, Cox.

invinciblePRSTV

Seaneh wrote: »

People putting Andrews as a DM.

Have you watched him play?

The man can't tackle, he throws himself about but he's pretty poor positionally in defence and his tackling is abysmal.

He is good getting forward and getting onto second balls, shooting from the edge of the box, getting on crosses etc but he's not a defensive player at all.

I think we should select one from the plethora of DM's that Ireland possess to replace Andrews.

Seaneh

Well, no, I think we should players in their strongest positions.

As for defensive midfielders.

McCann, Whelan, Myler, Wilson, that's 4 players who would be more suited to the role than Andrews off the top of my head.

Andrews isn't a defensive player.

Crash Bang Wall

Westwood

Coleman
Dunne
St Ledger
O'Shea

Gibson
McCarthy
Andrews

McClean
Long
McGreedy.......purely because there is nobody else

skippy15

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Westwood

Coleman
Dunne
St Ledger
O'Shea

Gibson
McCarthy
Andrews

McClean
Long
McGreedy.......purely because there is nobody else

Gibson andrews, cant defend for crap!
McCarthy I like for future, but needs a DM behind him-
whelan, myler now he's declared, or even O Shea as no place in def for him-
Looking forward to seeing more of Brady for future and even players like connor clifford from 21's, but Trapp is not going to overall players/ system

Problem is if we lose Trap and his systematic approach, no one out there (manager wise) I think to get much more from players. Can you see us qualifying with another manager? If we open up and play football against some teams, we'll sadly get destroyed

Owen_S

Surprised at the people choosing Clark over Wilson.

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Westwood

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Coleman----O'Shea----Clark----Wilson

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McCarthy---Gibson

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McGeady

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Ireland/Walters

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McClean

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Long

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Seaneh

skippy15 wrote: »

myler now he's declared

He's from cork, he's not eligible for any other country and has 7 under 21 caps...


He had no need to "declare" for Ireland...

stiffler123

Westwood
kelly O Shea Dunne/ Clarke Wilson
McCarthy
McGeady Mclean
Andrews/ Cox
Walters Long/Keane

Andrews behind the front two is a gamble but he has looked good when he has made forward runs.

FlawedGenius

Westwood

-Kelly--Dunne---St Ledger--Wilson-

-Brady--Hoolahan--McCarthy--McClean-

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Walters

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Keane

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Id drop McGeady as I think hes useless at crossing the ball and having watched a good bit of Brady he has great delivery. I would sometimes start Long with Keane depending on opposition and definetly throw on Long when chasing the game. I would call up and have on the bench Ronan Finn, Pilkington, Clark, Coleman, Duffy. I'd have a chat with little Stevo Ireland, ask him if he wants to play international football again. Id keep him on the bench. If he hit great form for Villa and I liked his attitude I may think of starting him over Hoolahan.
I would tell Paul Green, Keith Andrews, and Paul McShane that they are not in my plans and can go ****e, Id keep Whelan there just for an emergency. Id also call back up Liam Lawrence as I think hes done very well when hes played for us and have him on the bench.

Who is the black lad, fast winger 19/20 that played for Crystal Palace and has a cork surname? Id keep an eye on him, Conor Clifford and Shane Duffy.