Can anyone cleanse houses?

Jadestar

Hi, I own an old house which has a history of 'paranormal events'.It never bothered be too much until today, evidence was right there for 3 of us to see. Does anyone know of anyone who can get rid of whatever is in the house? A priest was called in some years ago to no avail. I would really love to get in touch with a specialist. HELP ! please

krd

Tell us what's been happening?

Jadestar

Windows and doors opening on there own, tapping and knocking, hissing in the ear, kitchen light flickering even though it has been checked over and deemed fine, sudden cold spells. I moved out some time back, but I want to move back in so would rather not have the company of whatever is haunting it!

krd

Jadestar wrote: »

Windows and doors opening on there own, tapping and knocking, hissing in the ear, kitchen light flickering even though it has been checked over and deemed fine, sudden cold spells. I moved out some time back, but I want to move back in so would rather not have the company of whatever is haunting it!

It could just be draughts and water pipes. Some houses are noisier than others, and it can give you the willies.

Doors can open by themselves for lots of reasons. Draughts, a little tension in the frame that make them pop open.

The flickering of the kitchen light can be caused by other things - like a faulty appliance in the house - or something like the fridge compressor starting and stopping (there's a compressor in your fridge - it's in a casing that makes it silent, but when it comes on and off it can make the lights flicker - that happens in my house).


The hissing in your ear, I have no idea.

Jadestar

We have explored any reasonable possible explanation, too much goes on in there, a window cant just open on its own. I agree about the electrics, anything can cause that, we changed the bulb and the fuse and it still happens but a faulty wire or something can cause that. Stuff moving and knocking like it is an actual person is beyond a pipe, some people are coming to look at the house, it will be interesting to hear what they have to say!!

Sephiroth_dude

Do keep us informed please

deelite

I was told years ago that sage leaves helped keep the house "clean" - can't remember his exact words but the man owned a crystal shop.

Not The Real Scarecrow

Avoid priests like the plague. Won't make anything better and will probably make it worse in the long run. Only thing I can advise is to move back in, try and get used to the stuff happening around you.No point in being scared as there's nothing going on that will hurt or kill you. If you try and accept it as a few weird,but harmless things that go on in your house, you'll be surprised at how used to it you'll get and in time you won't even notice stuff happening.Its the same as anything, the more you're around it the less scary it is. I know its easier said than done, but I'd rather get used to it than leaving a good house empty. It could be supernatural or could be just a natural occurrence that you haven't come across before ,either way, face your fears and you won't regret it, it'll make you a better , stronger person.

MrMojoRisin

deelite wrote: »

I was told years ago that sage leaves helped keep the house "clean" - can't remember his exact words but the man owned a crystal shop.

White sage, yeah. Most 'new age'-type shops stock it. You burn a bit of that (it's not too different to your typical incense) around the house and, hey presto, all is well and peaceful again.

Elmidena

Read this on facebook earlier:

Question about getting rid of spirits that keep you awake at night!
Answer: a simple way to stop this is to buy incense called white sage
burn it in your bedroom and leave the windows open
ask the spirit to leave
take a salt shaker
sprinkle salt on the doorstep into your bedroom and around the corners and walls/windows
when the sage has burnt out
close the windows.

Gumbi

Elmidena wrote: »

Read this on facebook earlier:

Question about getting rid of spirits that keep you awake at night!
Answer: a simple way to stop this is to buy incense called white sage
burn it in your bedroom and leave the windows open
ask the spirit to leave
take a salt shaker
sprinkle salt on the doorstep into your bedroom and around the corners and walls/windows
when the sage has burnt out
close the windows.

Sounds like an elborate placebo to me.

MrMojoRisin

MrMojoRisin wrote on 11-09-2012 at 14:46:

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

White sage, yeah. Most 'new age'-type shops stock it. You burn a bit of that (it's not too different to your typical incense) around the house and, hey presto, all is well and peaceful again.

Elmidena wrote on 11-09-2012 at 20:09:

Elmidena wrote: »

Read this on facebook earlier:

Question about getting rid of spirits that keep you awake at night!
Answer: a simple way to stop this is to buy incense called white sage
burn it in your bedroom and leave the windows open
ask the spirit to leave
take a salt shaker
sprinkle salt on the doorstep into your bedroom and around the corners and walls/windows
when the sage has burnt out
close the windows.

Eh? :rolleyes:

Gumbi wrote: »

Sounds like an elaborate placebo to me.

Whether it really is or not is irrelevant, just as long as peace is restored to a property. Whether that be because the dweller believes that the sage-burning caused the 'spirit' to go away, or because the white sage really did work. The end result is the most important thing.

purified

Right im gonna come at this from a completely different angle.

Would it be easier just to say to the spirit please stop you are scaring us.

i know there is also an intention you can set but i cant remember the exact words of it. All it does is ask the spirit to go towards the light to a better place and fills it with love

Gumbi

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

MrMojoRisin wrote on 11-09-2012 at 14:46:

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

White sage, yeah. Most 'new age'-type shops stock it. You burn a bit of that (it's not too different to your typical incense) around the house and, hey presto, all is well and peaceful again.

Elmidena wrote on 11-09-2012 at 20:09:

Elmidena wrote: »

Read this on facebook earlier:

Question about getting rid of spirits that keep you awake at night!
Answer: a simple way to stop this is to buy incense called white sage
burn it in your bedroom and leave the windows open
ask the spirit to leave
take a salt shaker
sprinkle salt on the doorstep into your bedroom and around the corners and walls/windows
when the sage has burnt out
close the windows.

Eh? :rolleyes:

Gumbi wrote: »

Sounds like an elaborate placebo to me.

Whether it really is or not is irrelevant, just as long as peace is restored to a property. Whether that be because the dweller believes that the sage-burning caused the 'spirit' to go away, or because the white sage really did work. The end result is the most important thing.

Maybe if you don't value truth - a road I think is very unhealthy.

Morag

Truth can be subjective.


What I would do is, clean the place from top to bottom with the intent of clearing out all and any old engerys which may be present. Then pick a candle and again light it with the intent of spreading positive vibes and laughter and love in every room you bring it to.
Open the front door of the house, stat your intent to bless each room and tell anything which would disrupt the house or people living there to leave. Take the candle from room too room imaging the light from it coating each room in good vibes and when your done close the front door and leave the candle to burn in a safe space until you go to bed.

If you feel 'bothered' again just light the candle again.

Gumbi

Sharrow wrote: »

Truth can be subjective.


What I would do is, clean the place from top to bottom with the intent of clearing out all and any old engerys which may be present. Then pick a candle and again light it with the intent of spreading positive vibes and laughter and love in every room you bring it to.
Open the front door of the house, stat your intent to bless each room and tell anything which would disrupt the house or people living there to leave. Take the candle from room too room imaging the light from it coating each room in good vibes and when your done close the front door and leave the candle to burn in a safe space until you go to bed.

If you feel 'bothered' again just light the candle again.

Do you not value truth? The thing is, if this is (as I suspect) merely the various creaky occurrences that happens in (older) houses, this is likely to have no effect whatsoever. Therefore I see it as completely pointless until such a time as we have reasonably concluded what these noises/occurrences are. Until then I can see no other reason other than to call this an elaborate placebo (lighting a cradle to spread a positive vibe??).

If you stated this suggestion merely as something to put the OP at ease I may have not even bothered to respond, but seeing as you specifically tied the actions suggested to the occurrences (old ornaments, etc), I cannot help but feel compelled to respond.

Morag

I am all for looking for common place reasons as to creaks and groans in a house or unusual noises, in some houses it is just how they respond to change in temperatures and are part of the character of the house. Yes those things should be ruled out but this is not the diy/building/construction forum and the op chose to post here for a specific reason and has asked for help with a cleansing of the house.

My reply respects their choice of forum and the context they have put their query in.


Op if you don't want to go down the route of a priest and are looking for a different sort of practitioner then I would suggest you have a look at the listings here.

http://www.witchvox.com/vn/cl/iexx_cl.html

Oryx

Gumbi, the op came here with a specific request, from a specific viewpoint. By all means give your view, but dont spoil the thread by arguing the general point of the existence of the paranormal, when that is not what the thread is about.

Gumbi

Oryx wrote: »

Gumbi, the op came here with a specific request, from a specific viewpoint. By all means give your view, but dont spoil the thread by arguing the general point of the existence of the paranormal, when that is not what the thread is about.

I'm not debating the existence of anything, I am trying to be more honest to the OP. The view I've conveyed so far in this thread is not to rule out the simpler explanations and to tread carefully regarding the various elaborate solutions suggested (in regards to the truthfulness of the matter - ie suggesting them as placebo-based is fine, but tying those actions directly to these occurrences (or the prevention of said occurrences), in my opinion, undermines the value of truth).

Gumbi

Sharrow wrote: »

I am all for looking for common place reasons as to creaks and groans in a house or unusual noises, in some houses it is just how they respond to change in temperatures and are part of the character of the house. Yes those things should be ruled out but this is not the diy/building/construction forum and the op chose to post here for a specific reason and has asked for help with a cleansing of the house.

My reply respects their choice of forum and the context they have put their query in.


Op if you don't want to go down the route of a priest and are looking for a different sort of practitioner then I would suggest you have a look at the listings here.

http://www.witchvox.com/vn/cl/iexx_cl.html

I don't understand. You're conceding that the likely explanation is construction-based, but due to the simple act of the OP posting here you are primarily suggesting paranormal-based preventative measures. This accentuates my point earlier regarding the truth of the matter.

Morag

I never suggested such things were a placebo, you are the one who has.

Oryx

Gumbi wrote: »

I don't understand. You're conceding that the lIky explanation is construction-based, but due to the simple act of the OP posting here you are primarily suggesting paranormal-based preventative measures. This accentuates my point earlier regarding the truth of the matter.

The problem being that you see your view as the truth. This is how threads become derailed here. Please allow open discussion on this topic in the vein that the op requested. If you think there is an imbalance or error in what is said here, please report posts, but understand and acceptance of belief is allowed here. Please pm me if you want to discuss it further.

faceman

Meatwad wrote: »

Avoid priests like the plague. Won't make anything better and will probably make it worse in the long run.

What?? On what basis??

Not The Real Scarecrow

faceman wrote: »

What?? On what basis??

Not to get in to it too much but if you have kids and....

I've known people that have had problems they believed to be supernatural in origin, got the priest in and everything was fine...for a small amount of time. The events were alot worse after the priests visits and actually turned violent. I read a book about exorcisms in America after the Exorcist movie was released and similar events occurred across the board.The Warrens were usually at the centre of it all as well. I personally believe that if such things are real ,why would a man made religion have absolutely any effect on them,if they pre-date it?
I can see how it can be used as a psychological placebo, but from my experiences with people with mental illness(not saying for that the op is sick) , religion makes things worse, especially in cases where some one believes that they are being persecuted by supernatural entities.Priests(not in all cases) usually feed into their delusions and aggravate the situation worse.

Gumbi

Sharrow wrote: »

I never suggested such things were a placebo, you are the one who has.

I suggested that that's what it sounds like, yes. Did I imply you had?

joncon45

krd wrote: »

It could just be draughts and water pipes. Some houses are noisier than others, and it can give you the willies.

Doors can open by themselves for lots of reasons. Draughts, a little tension in the frame that make them pop open.

The flickering of the kitchen light can be caused by other things - like a faulty appliance in the house - or something like the fridge compressor starting and stopping (there's a compressor in your fridge - it's in a casing that makes it silent, but when it comes on and off it can make the lights flicker - that happens in my house).


The hissing in your ear, I have no idea.

I have a hissing in my ear,its tinnitus!

Gumbi

Oryx wrote: »

Gumbi wrote: »

I don't understand. You're conceding that the lIky explanation is construction-based, but due to the simple act of the OP posting here you are primarily suggesting paranormal-based preventative measures. This accentuates my point earlier regarding the truth of the matter.

The problem being that you see your view as the truth. This is how threads become derailed here. Please allow open discussion on this topic in the vein that the op requested. If you think there is an imbalance or error in what is said here, please report posts, but understand and acceptance of belief is allowed here. Please pm me if you want to discuss it further.

As I said, the only view I've portrayed in this thread so far is one of warning. Open discussion is absolutely allowed, I merely weighed in and proposed that one such measure sounded "like an elaborate placebo".

Another poster suggested that at the end of the day, regardless of whether it is a placebo it is absolutely irrelevant if the end result results in a happier, more content and more at ease OP. While both the contentedness and safety of the OP is an absolutely relevant factor in this discussion (IMO - I'm sure you would agree), I took issue with the implication that this was the only relevant factor. I stated truth should be valued - my point being that before the forum collectively decides to suggest various paranormal-base preventative measures (candles for positive energy an all that jazz), perhaps it would be best to try and determine these mysterious events - or to suggest to the OP ways in which this could be achieved. And while I have no issue at all with suggesting measures that may potentially calm down and put the OP with ease, I take issue with the implication that those measures might have something to do with the "disappearing of such occurrences". Like I said, I value truth.

It should be noted, that when I say "truth" I am NOT making a statement either way regarding the truth of the existence paranormal activity. When I say "I value truth" I mean exactly that. It is for this reason that I brought up my objections.

I think you are jumping to conclusions simply because I am not so quick to suggest "paranormal-based preventative measures" and to take a more conservative approach.

faceman

Meatwad wrote: »

Not to get in to it too much but if you have kids and....

I've known people that have had problems they believed to be supernatural in origin, got the priest in and everything was fine...for a small amount of time. The events were alot worse after the priests visits and actually turned violent. I read a book about exorcisms in America after the Exorcist movie was released and similar events occurred across the board.The Warrens were usually at the centre of it all as well. I personally believe that if such things are real ,why would a man made religion have absolutely any effect on them,if they pre-date it?
I can see how it can be used as a psychological placebo, but from my experiences with people with mental illness(not saying for that the op is sick) , religion makes things worse, especially in cases where some one believes that they are being persecuted by supernatural entities.Priests(not in all cases) usually feed into their delusions and aggravate the situation worse.

I think it would warrant a different thread to go deeper into the discussion. SOme of your comments are correct and also recognised by the church. But others I would disagree with. Maybe we'll save it for another thread!

wayoutwest

Jadestar - How long did you live in the house before you moved out?.When,during that time did you get the priest in, and what did he have to say about it all?. Was the house known to be haunted before you occupied it?{ local knowledge,priest etc].

Jadestar

Thanks everyone for the advice, I'll take it all on board. @wayoutwest I was in there for about 4 months, it was the previous owner who had it blessed not me. We have been doing a lot of research on the house, also I have called in professionals with proper equipment etc. We have done 2 vigils which were very interesting!! Am waiting now for them to review what they recorded etc. Its scarey and exciting, they don't think whatever is in there is bad, so thats a good start anyway

Gumbi

Jadestar wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the advice, I'll take it all on board. @wayoutwest I was in there for about 4 months, it was the previous owner who had it blessed not me. We have been doing a lot of research on the house, also I have called in professionals with proper equipment etc. We have done 2 vigils which were very interesting!! Am waiting now for them to review what they recorded etc. Its scarey and exciting, they don't think whatever is in there is bad, so thats a good start anyway

*Assuming there's "something" there.

Good to see that you are getting somewhere, though.