'US covered up Soviet atrocities in WWII'

ejmaztec

Canvasser wrote: »

There was no lack of contraception in the USSR. That's Ireland you're thinking of.

Another factually incorrect post. ^^^^^^^^ and a failed attempt at mind reading.

In the postwar period, when population growth declined precipitously in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, governments in these countries adopted pronatalist population policies and restricted access to contraception

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12283252

Canvasser

ejmaztec wrote: »

Another factually incorrect post. ^^^^^^^^ and a failed attempt at mind reading.




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12283252

Was that the best you could find on google? Jesus look a bit harder would ya.

Artur.PL

Canvasser wrote: »

800,000 Red Army soldiers died liberating Poland from the nazis. They needn't have bothered for all the thanks they got. It would have been better to leave the Nazis in Poland and allow them to wipe the Polish race off the face of the earth wouldn't it?

No it wouldn't. But you know that they lost so many people because their poor tactics mostly. They did not bother about ordinary soldiers. A lot of them could be save but their commanders did not care.
Is it your point we should forget what they were doing in Poland because they liberated us?
Winner take all?
Polish could see that one occupant left and the second appeared. Nothing was changed.

ejmaztec

Canvasser wrote: »

Was that the best you could find on google? Jesus look a bit harder would ya.

I use Bing.

Canvasser

Artur.PL wrote: »

No it wouldn't. But you know that they lost so many people because their poor tactics mostly. They did not bother about ordinary soldiers. A lot of them could be save but their commanders did not care.
Is it your point we should forget what they were doing in Poland because they liberated us?
Winner take all?
Polish could see that one occupant left and second appeared. Nothing was changed.

You're criticising the tactics of the Red Army in 1944? Oh please tell me about all the great battles the Polish Army won in WW2:rolleyes:

The problem with Poland for the last 20 years is that it has been run by extreme right wingers and lunatics. Polish "academics" and historians" like to claim that nazism and communism was the same for Poland. However the facts disagree. Some Polish politicians even claim that Katyn was as bad as the holocaust. Poland today is a sh1tty county run by lunatics. That's why the Polish youth all come to Ireland.

ejmaztec

Canvasser wrote: »

You're criticising the tactics of the Red Army in 1944? Oh please tell me about all the great battles the Polish Army won in WW2:rolleyes:

The problem with Poland for the last 20 years is that it has been run by extreme right wingers and lunatics. Polish "academics" and historians" like to claim that nazism and communism was the same for Poland. However the facts disagree. Some Polish politicians even claim that Katyn was as bad as the holocaust. Poland today is a sh1tty county run by lunatics. That's why the Polish youth all come to Ireland.

Any facts in your posts would be purely accidental.

blatantrereg

phoenix999 wrote: »

Hardly surprising?:

http://m.eircom.net/news/article/?type=breaking&storyid=20731818

That link currently opens a page with no content (for me anyway)

The USA covering up Communist atrocities would have been consistent with their policy of appeasing the USSR at Yalta - so the idea strikes me as credible.

I think the USA must have been very afraid of the USSR at that time.

edit: Wow some of the posts here... The USSR weren't out to liberate anyone. They were aggressive empire builders in their own right, and had just as impressive a list of atrocities as the Nazis. They were also very happy to cooperate with the Nazis and they invaded Poland at the same time as Germany did. It was Germany who attacked the USSR, and in this one case their cassus belli was actually credible - ie: that the USSR was an immediate threat to western civilisation which needed to be countered.

Artur.PL

Canvasser wrote: »

You're criticising the tactics of the Red Army in 1944? Oh please tell me about all the great battles the Polish Army won in WW2:rolleyes:

The problem with Poland for the last 20 years is that it has been run by extreme right wingers and lunatics. Polish "academics" and historians" like to claim that nazism and communism was the same for Poland. However the facts disagree. Some Polish politicians even claim that Katyn was as bad as the holocaust. Poland today is a sh1tty county run by lunatics. That's why the Polish youth all come to Ireland.

It is not criticism it' fact.
You are telling about right wing extreme running Poland in last 20 years. There is a lot of things you still have to learn about Poland. Try not to focus only on lunatics, it is easy to find them everywhere but find different options
.
btw. Who said that Katyn was like holocaust?

Canvasser

blatantrereg wrote: »

That link currently opens a page with no content (for me anyway)

The USA covering up Communist atrocities would have been consistent with their policy of appeasing the USSR at Yalta - so the idea strikes me as credible.

I think the USA must have been very afraid of the USSR at that time.

edit: Wow some of the posts here... The USSR weren't out to liberate anyone. They were aggressive empire builders in their own right, and had just as impressive a list of atrocities as the Nazis. They were also very happy to cooperate with the Nazis and they invaded Poland at the same time as Germany. It was Germany who attacked the USSR, and in this one case their cassus belli wa actually credible - ie: that the USSR was an immediate threat to western civilisation which needed to be countered.

You sound like a nazi now

blatantrereg

Canvasser wrote: »

You sound like a nazi now

No I dont.

Crann na Beatha

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Canvasser

Phoenix wrote: »

Cant you argue your point of view without the use of ad hominem attacks?
Atrocities were committed by both the axis and allied forces during the war,no participant was whiter than white.

That poster was justifying the nazi genocide in the East on the grounds that it was a crusade to save western civilisation.

ejmaztec

Canvasser wrote: »

That poster was justifying the nazi genocide in the East on the grounds that it was a crusade to save western civilisation.

He made no mention of "nazi genocide", so he can hardly be accused of justifying anything of the kind.

Manic Moran

I'm trying to figure out exactly where this thread is going, and why I shouldn't just lock it as being unproductive. Answers on a postcard in the next 6 hours, or at least, some useful post on topic, or it's getting locked.

Manic Moran

That answers that.