Ferrari crash on M50

Myrddin

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Surely (k)not...

I wanna hurl

Iwannahurl

EnterNow wrote: »

I wanna hurl

Amazing -- that never occurred to me when I chose my username...

*****

YouTube video of crash scene below.

Was that car in front of the Ferrari also involved, I wonder?

And are those people just standing around on a motorway? What safety measures might have been put in place after the crash?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IisNbFsE_Io

Kenny Logins

From one of the other cars involved in the accident - https://twitter.com/KevinMcGing

Myrddin

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Amazing -- that never occurred to me when I chose my username...

Ya might bare it in mind before coming up with puns again so

opinion guy

seamus wrote: »

So a 20 year old car which those who have driven it say is in bad condition, untaxed and unregistered. Insurance company will no doubt find it quite interesting.

How do you know it is untaxed and unregistered ?!?!
Surely since people were able to motorcheck it, it must at least be registered

Debs_Mann

If road is wet, like it looks in pics, and someone going a bit too fast with a car that may not have ABS, if brakes locked up, chances are it could have sent car in to concrete barrier, and car was flipped back in to carriageway and turned over.

I hope everyone was ok

Kenny Logins

opinion guy wrote: »

How do you know it is untaxed and unregistered ?!?!
Surely since people were able to motorcheck it, it must at least be registered

Not taxed or registered in Ireland.

Iwannahurl

EnterNow wrote: »

Ya might bare it in mind before coming up with puns again so

Crashed porch. Very punny.

Myrddin

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Crashed porch. Very punny.

Is that an keyboard warrior way of saying your joke went over my head? Ya know, I'd really have more respect for you if you just came out & said it went over my head

Anyway, back to the upside down Ferrari

Kenny Logins

EnterNow wrote: »

Is that an keyboard warrior way of saying your joke went over my head? Ya know, I'd really have more respect for you if you just came out & said it went over my head

Anyway, back to the upside down Ferrari

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Myrddin

Kenny Logins wrote: »

ıɹɐɹɹǝɟ

Now thats funny

antodeco

Debs_Mann wrote: »

If road is wet, like it looks in pics, and someone going a bit too fast with a car that may not have ABS, if brakes locked up, chances are it could have sent car in to concrete barrier, and car was flipped back in to carriageway and turned over.

I hope everyone was ok

I was driving home yesterday in that rain, and it was like driving a go kart on ice. Was equally scary and exciting at the same time! Saying that, I lowered my speed down to prevent something like the above happening. And yes, this is a car with no ABS, no power steering, dual drum and disc brakes.

jackofalltrades

Iwannahurl wrote:

And are those people just standing around on a motorway? What safety measures might have been put in place after the crash?

There's no real need for safety measures with rubberneckers like yourself slowing the traffic down to a crawl.

my friend

interesting, a Northern reg yet from some sources I hear that that Ferrari was part of a fleet of a rental operation based in Dublin

wonder do Revenue know?

Hopefully if true the car will be seized.

awec

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Monty Burnz

Kenny Logins wrote: »

How do you discover the potential of a Ferrari 348 on the M50? ...in twenty minutes.

http://www.goldenmoments.ie/ferrari-driving-in-dublin-20-minutes.html

Christ - you can drive 4 laps in a supercar for that kind of money on the continent.

Bearcat

my friend wrote: »

interesting, a Northern reg yet from some sources I hear that that Ferrari was part of a fleet of a rental operation based in Dublin

wonder do Revenue know?
Hopefully if true the car will be seized.

And then what, sell it for scrap? Granted though if it is alleged that it was a rental scenario on out of state plates working here......the world of pain comes to mind.

keithclancy

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Christ - you can drive 4 laps in a supercar for that kind of money on the continent.

You could rent this for the Day for 400 euros ... would be better spent :P

http://www.miet24.de/mieten/fahrzeuge/sportwagen/ferrari/ferrari-f430-scuderia-und-f430-spider-16m-988289

Guy:Incognito

opinion guy wrote: »

How do you know it is untaxed and unregistered ?!?!
Surely since people were able to motorcheck it, it must at least be registered

Its not registered in Ireland but is clearly being used here as a hire car on a full time basis.

Guy:Incognito

Bearcat wrote: »

And then what, sell it for scrap? .

There are a good few on ebay that could be got for under £25k . How much would that one cost to put right considering the state it was in before and the fact its now been on its roof?

Iwannahurl

jackofalltrades wrote: »

There's no real need for safety measures with rubberneckers like yourself slowing the traffic down to a crawl.

Internet traffic, y'mean? The only rubbernecking I see is in this thread, and I was 200km away, honest.

Seriously though, lighten up folks. Tis only a bit of banter...

Joe 90

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Christ - you can drive 4 laps in a supercar for that kind of money on the continent.

You can do it a lot nearer home. http://www.carlimits.com/
North Weald is about 10 or 15 miles from Stansted.

Tea 1000

According to most fairly handy journalists (and according to an owner of one I know), the 348 is a handful and snappy at the best of times when new and in the dry. A crappy one in the wet driven by presumably an average driver is probably a recipe for upside-downness...
Looks from the BMW thread that they also have a 360, but from the pictures they seem to have more than 1 348. Anyone know what else they have?

seamus

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Anyone know what else they have?

http://www.goldenmoments.ie/driving-experiences/

Tea 1000

seamus wrote: »

http://www.goldenmoments.ie/driving-experiences/

They only mention the 348 (despite the fact that they have a picture of a 430 in one, and in the 60 minute one they have a pic of a Testarossa! :rolleyes:
The guy from the BMW thread mentioned they have a 360, that doesn't appear in any of those options. I'm wondering if they have any more 348's.

Light Switch

Hmmm Someone should buy it and make it into an MR2 rep :cool:

stealthyspeeder

my friend wrote: »

interesting, a Northern reg yet from some sources I hear that that Ferrari was part of a fleet of a rental operation based in Dublin

wonder do Revenue know?

Hopefully if true the car will be seized.

That is requiring a big assumption on your part, that the rental companies ownership of the car fits the same ownership criteria as a member of the public in the ROI, which I think would be highly unlikely.

For example, if the Ferrari is owned, even just in name, by a Northern Ireland or mainland UK resident, and rented to the rental company in Dublin, the rental company would not be liable and no VRT would be due.

If I was the company owner, I would get a friend in the UK, to buy the car (with the money I have given them), get them to rent it to me, and get them to pay the money back to me privately minus a cut for their involvment. 100% legal and given the rates of VRT on sportscars in Ireland, it would make more sense financially.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Its not registered in Ireland but is clearly being used here as a hire car on a full time basis.

The insinuation of that is that VRT is due. I dont think anyone is a position to know the VRT liabilty of any car, unless they have inside detailed knowledge of both the VRT law and the car owners residential status and vrt declarations.

sgaites

Tea 1000 wrote: »

The guy from the BMW thread mentioned they have a 360, that doesn't appear in any of those options. I'm wondering if they have any more 348's.

That's me !

I emailed them last night saying I had seen the 348 being written off. The guy said he now has to juggle some things around to get the 360 here. It might be in the UK for all I know.

Tea 1000

sgaites wrote: »

That's me !

I emailed them last night saying I had seen the 348 being written off. The guy said he now has to juggle some things around to get the 360 here. It might be in the UK for all I know.

Cool, hopefully they don't have any more 348's. I have a present of a drive in one, bought for me at a greatly reduced price thankfully, but it's due in a few weeks, hope it'll be the 360!

Amy2010

paddy147 wrote: »

How the hell did it flip over and end up facing the wrong way on the M50???:eek:

Speeding...what else?

mickdw

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

That is requiring a big assumption on your part, that the rental companies ownership of the car fits the same ownership criteria as a member of the public in the ROI, which I think would be highly unlikely.

For example, if the Ferrari is owned, even just in name, by a Northern Ireland or mainland UK resident, and rented to the rental company in Dublin, the rental company would not be liable and no VRT would be due.

If I was the company owner, I would get a friend in the UK, to buy the car (with the money I have given them), get them to rent it to me, and get them to pay the money back to me privately minus a cut for their involvment. 100% legal and given the rates of VRT on sportscars in Ireland, it would make more sense financially.




The insinuation of that is that VRT is due. I dont think anyone is a position to know the VRT liabilty of any car, unless they have inside detailed knowledge of both the VRT law and the car owners residential status and vrt declarations.

But I don't think there is any longer any situation where it is legal for a republic of Ireland resident to drive a foreign registered car here. There used to be northern Ireland companies who were hiring cars into the south on northern plates but that has long since been stopped. I don't see how hiring a car from a UK owner would allow them to operate it legally here still on the UK plate.

Surely if the car spends most of the time in the UK there's no issue.

stealthyspeeder

mickdw wrote: »

But I don't think there is any longer any situation where it is legal for a republic of Ireland resident to drive a foreign registered car here. There used to be northern Ireland companies who were hiring cars into the south on northern plates but that has long since been stopped. I don't see how hiring a car from a UK owner would allow them to operate it legally here still on the UK plate.

Your right, just checked the vrt 2 document, its changed quite a bit since I last looked at it a couple of years ago, it doesnt seem like it allows that all! There could still be some loophole as im sure a Ferrari on the M50 everyday for the last year or so would have seen at least one customs official.

Guy:Incognito

RoverJames wrote: »

Surely if the car spends most of the time in the UK there's no issue.

What about the "an Irish resident cannot drive a foreign registered car" part though?

Either way, has the thing even left the state at any stage?

Pottler

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What about the "an Irish resident cannot drive a foreign registered car" part though?

Either way, has the thing even left the state at any stage?

It left it briefly, then slapped down on its roof.

sgaites

sgaites wrote: »

That's me !

I emailed them last night saying I had seen the 348 being written off. The guy said he now has to juggle some things around to get the 360 here. It might be in the UK for all I know.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What about the "an Irish resident cannot drive a foreign registered car" part though?

Either way, has the thing even left the state at any stage?

Dunno tbh but I can't really see how any company could dodge VRT on a few sportscars while turning over €1000s/week, the revenue folk do like to go for the obvious ones at times

Heroditas

Amy2010 wrote: »

paddy147 wrote: »

How the hell did it flip over and end up facing the wrong way on the M50???:eek:

Speeding...what else?

Did you see the accident take place?

PrettyBoy

my friend wrote: »

interesting, a Northern reg yet from some sources I hear that that Ferrari was part of a fleet of a rental operation based in Dublin

wonder do Revenue know?

Hopefully if true the car will be seized.

For **** sake there some real prats that post here from time to time - Are you genuinely hoping that they seize the car? Would it make you happy or improve your quality of life in any way? Do you lose sleep over people that don't pay VRT?

my friend

PrettyBoy wrote: »

my friend wrote: »

interesting, a Northern reg yet from some sources I hear that that Ferrari was part of a fleet of a rental operation based in Dublin

wonder do Revenue know?

Hopefully if true the car will be seized.

For **** sake there some real prats that post here from time to time - Are you genuinely hoping that they seize the car? Would it make you happy or improve your quality of life in any way? Do you lose sleep over people that don't pay VRT?

You stay pretty , I'll sort the weasels

my friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCllOc1qnVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Proof of the gimpery these idiots were up to.

Typical footage from the same vehicle.

Jimbob 83

Second gear on a motorway while switching lanes needlessly in the wet with a high powered rwd car, like.....

challengemaster

That looks boring as hell.

PrettyBoy wrote: »

For **** sake there some real prats that post here from time to time - Are you genuinely hoping that they seize the car? Would it make you happy or improve your quality of life in any way? Do you lose sleep over people that don't pay VRT?

Well when everyone else has to pay it, it's hardly fair that a company using the vehicle to make money think that they don't. It's not like they can't afford to pay it either.

Jimbob 83

PrettyBoy wrote: »

For **** sake there some real prats that post here from time to time - Are you genuinely hoping that they seize the car? Would it make you happy or improve your quality of life in any way? Do you lose sleep over people that don't pay VRT?

Idiotic reply, in a civilized society if you aren't willing to pay your fair share expect to be reported.

I absolutely detest the Irish "Informer" attitude towards doing the right thing, excuse of wasters who think they above the law to dodge taxes

If you can't afford to run it don't buy it, simple

Tropheus

my friend wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCllOc1qnVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Proof of the gimpery these idiots were up to.

Typical footage from the same vehicle.

That's on the M50? Crazy stuff. Also driving the sh1te out of the car.

Wisesmurf

and your man constantly shouting EGGZELERATE....

Kenny Logins

my friend wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCllOc1qnVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Proof of the gimpery these idiots were up to.

Typical footage from the same vehicle.

That's Mondello I presume?

Heroditas

ksimpson wrote: »

my friend wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCllOc1qnVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Proof of the gimpery these idiots were up to.

Typical footage from the same vehicle.

That's on the M50? Crazy stuff. Also driving the sh1te out of the car.

It's inbound on the N7 from Naas to Rathcoole

ThisRegard

ksimpson wrote: »

That's on the M50? Crazy stuff. Also driving the sh1te out of the car.

Looks like the N7 heading towards Newlands Cross.

keithclancy

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

Second gear on a motorway while switching lanes needlessly in the wet with a high powered rwd car, like.....

Yeh .. its a bit sad really ... engine screaming and getting overtaken by a Jetta.

I'd say that moron shouting in the drivers ear hole caused the accident..

EGGZZELERATE .. OUT SIDE .. shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

opinion guy

Amy2010 wrote: »

Speeding...what else?

Gay Byrne is that you ?
Ferarri's don't spontaneously flip over merely from going fast.....had to be more to it than that