Ireland v Oman match thread 11/09/12

J. Marston

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Ohhh Man!!!

You were just waiting to use that one.

Roger Sterling

desaparecidos wrote: »

Roger Sterling wrote: »

I for one want our tried and tested players in the tesm for Germany.

Really, because Coleman just ran the length of the pitch and turned defence into attack in seconds, nearly leading to a goal.

The "tried and tested players" would have booted it out over the stand.

Yes make him first choice based on a good dribble vs Oman.

Stevecw

Why is Andy Keogh still left on??

Mr.Crinklewood

J. Marston wrote: »

You were just waiting to use that one.

Yes.

Drumpot

Sweden 1-0 Kazakstan 85 mins gone
Austria 1-2 Germany 81 mins gone

The Kazaks could be the surprise package of the group (ie not your usual cannon fodder!).

Rega

Nice one 4-1 Pearce

Stevecw

Pearce with the 4th!

Manc-Red

Austria doing their all here to get this equalizer - they'll cause us serious problems, beautiful passing & very good attacking play in general.

85' Austria 1-2 Germany

aindriu80

well the fourth really makes up for the Oman goal. Nice to see it

Mars Bar

Nice header from Pearce

aindriu80

stupid free to give away

Patser

Manc-Red wrote: »

Austria doing their all here to get this equalizer - they'll cause us serious problems, beautiful passing & very good attacking play in general.

85' Austria 1-2 Germany

I wonder is there an element of local rivalry there, same as how Ireland would raise their game against England

Francie Barrett

Game set and match! I hope Trap was paying attention - that is how you defeat weaker opposition.

the realpigiron

I know the opposition are cat, but there's some good young players becoming available to Ireland. I hope Trap makes the most of them and uses some of them in the qualification campaign

Manc-Red

Lads you've missed the worst miss of the century from Austria. OMFG it was horrendous.

Drumpot

Patser wrote: »

I wonder is there an element of local rivalry there, same as how Ireland would raise their game against England

Just what I was thinking . Agreed . .

Kinda like no matter how muck Liverpool are, they always raise their game for united and look like world beaters !

ArmaniJeanss

Drumpot wrote: »

Sweden 1-0 Kazakstan 85 mins gone
Austria 1-2 Germany 81 mins gone

The Kazaks could be the surprise package of the group (ie not your usual cannon fodder!).

Only complete tools thought they'd be cannon fodder to be honest.

Liechstenstein, Andorra and San Marino are the only complete no-hopers in europe, all the other 'minnows' are coached and organised well enough to be able to get a result against the Pot2 and Pot3 teams. Consistently getting six or seven such results in a group is all whats beyond them.

Manc-Red

Patser wrote: »

I wonder is there an element of local rivalry there, same as how Ireland would raise their game against England

There is yes but Austria can play, they can also miss open goals too though unfortunately.

Banjaxed82

Keogh is sh!t

aindriu80

great pass there to keogh

kitakyushu

the realpigiron wrote: »

I know the opposition are cat

They're worse than cat. They're Muscat.

Stevecw

Bad miss by Keogh, he didn't know he was offside. Great play by McGeady to set him up.

G.K.

Rekop dog wrote: »

Example of what can happen when blooding talented but inexperienced youngsters in these games.

Every one of the players Coleman named for us tonight has 10+ caps except Adam Matthews. Our biggest problem is Chris Coleman himself, who compared to Speed looks like Staunton. He's simply awful as a manager. Under Speed we could have won this game - we played so much better.

We were always going to not qualify anyway. Croatia, Belgium, Serbia are all simply superior. As such, playing experienced players, by and large, makes no sense because our experienced players, Bellamy, Williams, Vaughan, Ricketts and Hennessey aside, are awful. How the likes of James Collins and Robert Earnshaw are getting in the squad beggars belief.

What this means is we have to play the less experienced players who are already ahead of Collins et al in terms of ability. Considering we aren't going to qualify from this group in a million years it makes much more sense to blood the youngsters now and get them used to each other to give us a better crack at the whip at Euro 2016. Combined with our higher ranking that should but us in a higher pot for the draw next time round, and I don't think qualification will be an unrealistic aim.

I'd like Coleman to continue Speed's work and create a settled XI though this campaign ready for the next one.

Something like

Hennessey
Matthews/Gunter - Blake - Williams - Taylor
Robson-Kanu - Allen - Vaughan - Ramsey - Bale
Vokes/Church

If that XI was comfortable in 2016 nad we were at France, I'd be delighted.

Bob the Seducer

Manc-Red wrote: »

Lads you've missed the worst miss of the century from Austria. OMFG it was horrendous.

all he had to do was chip it over the keeper from two yards yet he managed to put it wide...

aindriu80

hope that isnt too serious for cox.

Patser

Wales 6-1 down, England still losing, Scotland 1-1 with Macedonia and the North 1-0 on Luxembourg.

Hulk Hands

Are people forgetting that on the very odd occasion the players have actually played well in the last few years, Trap has got all the credit? France away was an example, where the players performed well despite his system, and he got all the credit for nearly getting us to the WC.

It was the same when we got Euro Qualification, even though anything less than finishing ahead of an imploding Slovakia, and beating Estonia, would've been a complete and utter disaster.

Now it has come full circle, and instead of getting the credit when we do well, he's not going to get any. Well that's what happens when people finally cotton on that in your old age, you've become a stubborn lazy manager who doesn't put in the effort to go watch players, who refuses to change his system and the players in it, who does his best to alienate some of the limited young talent we have coming through, and who continuously burns bridges with some of the players.

Manc-Red

Full Time in Vienna ___ Austria 1-2 Germany___

The_Kew_Tour

Sweden won 2-0 in end.

aindriu80

Its us against the swedes for 2nd spot providing we can put away Austria and don't make any slip ups. No surprises tonight.

grenache

Why did Trap play regulars like Cox and McGeady? It now looks that Cox has picked up an injury which could have been avoided by resting him for a meaningless friendly. Sean O'Driscoll will not be pleased.

Banjaxed82

grenache wrote: »

Why did Trap play regulars like Cox, McGeady? It now looks that Cox has picked up an injury which could have been avoided by rest him for a meaningless friendly.

Yet another unanswerable question in the book of Trap.

Johnny_the_fox

grenache wrote: »

Why did Trap play regulars like Cox, McGeady? It now looks that Cox has picked up an injury which could have been avoided by rest him for a meaningless friendly.

the same could be said for any of the players - if they got injured.

ArmaniJeanss

Stupid playing regulars in case they get injured.
Stupid playing non-regulars when you are just going to revert to the normal 11 in competitive games.

Thread is an education.

Mikeyt086

aindriu80 wrote: »

Its us against the swedes for 2nd spot providing we can put away Austria and don't make any slip ups. No surprises tonight.

aindriu80

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

lovely animated pic there.. about as revealing as the games tonight

Mikeyt086

It displays my concern with the idea that we could "put away" Austria in a competitive game.

Liam O

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

It displays my concern with the idea that we could "put away" Austria in a competitive game.

You not watch the game? Ireland won 4-1, we're unreal

Where is Austria anyway? Somewhere in Germany?

noodler

grenache wrote: »

Why did Trap play regulars like Cox and McGeady? It now looks that Cox has picked up an injury which could have been avoided by resting him for a meaningless friendly. Sean O'Driscoll will not be pleased.

Johnny_the_fox wrote: »

the same could be said for any of the players - if they got injured.

I know.

FFS he can't win now.

Patsy fyre

Just happy we are not Scotland, Wales or nordie Ireland

Augmerson

Liam O wrote: »

You not watch the game? Ireland won 4-1, we're unreal

Where is Austria anyway? Somewhere in Germany?

kitakyushu

Liam O wrote: »

Where is Austria anyway? Somewhere in Germany?

Nah, you're thinking of France. Austria is that country next to New Zealand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb8aO8p4Z1g

Coillte_Bhoy

Was that randolph's debut tonight?

Dempsey

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Was that randolph's debut tonight?

Yep

donfers

didn't see the game, any highlights?

who impressed?

this result on top of the u21 4-2 win in italy gives a little bit of hope after the depression of the kazkhstan game

Renn

How did McShane play? MotM?

Backstreet Moyes

aindriu80 wrote: »

Its us against the swedes for 2nd spot providing we can put away Austria and don't make any slip ups. No surprises tonight.

I backed Germany and watched the second half of the Germany game. They were very lucky to get a win i cant see us beating Austria out their. They were the better team and very impressive.

Gringo180

aindriu80 wrote: »

Its us against the swedes for 2nd spot providing we can put away Austria and don't make any slip ups. No surprises tonight.

The Austrians will murder us if we dont improve drastically. I cant see us finishing anywhere other than 4th in the group the way things are going unfortunately.

sheao

Meyler, Coleman , Brady and Long were very good tonight.

Overall it just goes to show that anything is better than the hit and hope tactics which we used last Friday.

KevIRL

It was as the game had predicted in the end