Kenny sacked

CSF

dfx- wrote: »

He has showed his value to Shels, we'll have to look elsewhere. Tactical masterclass from him tonight.

Ah no, sure we've already ruined your season, can't go ruining your managerial hunt too. Take Matthews as a symbol of our sympathy over how your season has progressed.

monkey9

dreamers75 wrote: »

Phil Brown
Roy Keane
Brian Laws
Ruud Guillit
Harry Redknapp
Peter Reid

shortlist from rovers fans.


/wow

Staunton would be my choice or Jeff kenna.

Ahahahahaha!!! Brilliant list!! They're good for a laugh when they're not chasing down opposing fans at the Luas stop.

Ruud Gullit!! That really is top notch! I'm sure though that was suggested by the blow ins who don't bother going to the games anymore after the initial rush of the new stadium!

GLaDOS

Brian Laws expected to take over for the rest of the season

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/8934/brian-to-lay-down-the-law-at-tallaght/

Brian Laws is expected to be announced as Shamrock Rovers' temporary Director of Football later today.

Reports this morning suggest the former Scunthorpe, Sheffield Wednesday and Burnley manager will be given a six week contract to salvage something from the Hoops' dwindling season.

Manager Stephen Kenny was sacked last week, with his assistant Stephen Glass taking control in last Friday's FAI Cup defeat at Shelbourne.

Thirteen points behind current leaders Sligo Rovers with six games to play, the Tallaght side have all but relinquished their league title.

They are, however, in the final of the EA Sports Cup this Saturday and Laws could even meet the media tomorrow with a pre-match press conference scheduled.

CSF

You can just picture the meeting at Tallaght HQ

'So.....who else has managed Scunthorpe?'

super_furry

Heard that there's nothing at all in the Brian Laws stuff and that Jim Magilton won't be approached either.

Mars Bar

super_furry wrote: »

Heard that there's nothing at all in the Brian Laws stuff and that Jim Magilton won't be approached either.

Jim Magilton doesn't want to get involved. He said it on Twitter.

AgileMyth

Bit of a waste of money having Brian Laws there til the end of the season. Assume if hes signed it'll be until the end of next year.

Lawrence1895

AgileMyth wrote: »

Bit of a waste of money having Brian Laws there til the end of the season. Assume if hes signed it'll be until the end of next year.

Isn't he that guy, who was with Nottingham Forest? Or do I mix something up there?

Mars Bar

Lars1916 wrote: »

Isn't he that guy, who was with Nottingham Forest? Or do I mix something up there?

Burnley and Scunthorpe

Zebra3

AgileMyth wrote: »

Bit of a waste of money having Brian Laws there til the end of the season. Assume if hes signed it'll be until the end of next year.

Not if he gets them into Europe.

Think he's just there until the end of the season.

Lawrence1895

Mars Bar wrote: »

Burnley and Scunthorpe

Just heard some news on the radio yesterday, but didn't get all of it. Someone from Nottingham linked to Shamrock Rovers as well.

Francie Barrett

Brian Laws will be funny if it's true.

Don't understand why Rovers don't take a chance on a young, lower league manager like they did with O'Neill.

super_furry

super_furry wrote: »

Heard that there's nothing at all in the Brian Laws stuff and that Jim Magilton won't be approached either.

Shows what I know. Brian Laws will be the new Director of Football at Rovers, and will see out the season as Caretaker Manager also.

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A DOF in the LOI?

Where are Shamrock getting the money for that?

dreamers75

Des wrote: »

A DOF in the LOI?

Where are Shamrock getting the money for that?

Cant call him the manager whilst Kenny is on "gardening leave". As they would have to pay him in full normal stuff when managers sacked.

Gavin "shels"

super_furry wrote: »

Heard that there's nothing at all in the Brian Laws stuff and that Jim Magilton won't be approached either.

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/news/35-news/2985-brian-laws

Lawrence1895

Des wrote: »

A DOF in the LOI?

Where are Shamrock getting the money for that?

Donations by RTE and the FAI for their outstanding achievements?

*gets coat*

Xavi6

From an Irish Burnley player -

@kevinlong28: Brian laws gone to Shamrock Rovers for rest of the season! Haha #Bluffer

AgileMyth

Zebra3 wrote: »

Not if he gets them into Europe.

He'll have to somehow stop Pats or Drogheda from winning the cup so.

Maybe he'll throw chicken wings at them.

Zebra3

AgileMyth wrote: »

He'll have to somehow stop Pats or Drogheda from winning the cup so.

Eh, it's in their interests that one of those sides win the cup.

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AgileMyth wrote: »

...Pats ...winning the cup...

What?

Ebbs

DoF....very clever move.

Meh, it's only 6 games and then we'll see what happens. Too short of a time to make a difference. Good appointment from what I've seen but as with all "managers" his bond with the team is down to luck more than anything else.

Also, whoever made the comment about how we're getting money for this crazy new DoF position... It's the same as if we appointed a new manager :S No idea how you thought it made a difference.

AgileMyth

Zebra3 wrote: »

Eh, it's in their interests that one of those sides win the cup.

You are correct. That'll make things easier for him.

Dozen Wicked Words

Xavi6 wrote: »

From an Irish Burnley player -

@kevinlong28: Brian laws gone to Shamrock Rovers for rest of the season! Haha #Bluffer

He hasn't played a game for them since he signed in 2010, he may well be right, about Laws, but he may also be a disgruntled bench warmer.

Madworld

Laws doesn't even know who he is managing. He referred to his new employers as Shelbourne. He also constantly referred to them as Shamrock.

Lawrence1895

Madworld wrote: »

Laws doesn't even know who he is managing. He referred to his new employers as Shelbourne and Shamrock.

The interview on MNS? Maybe, he was too impressed by Shels last Friday, especially Philly Hughes

grenache

Lars1916 wrote: »

Mars Bar wrote: »

Burnley and Scunthorpe

Just heard some news on the radio yesterday, but didn't get all of it. Someone from Nottingham linked to Shamrock Rovers as well.

Laws made his name as a player under Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest. That's where the 'Nottingham link' is.

Gavin "shels"

Interesting that Brian Laws has been given the title of interim Director of Football rather than interim Manager.

Is Kenny still techinally manager till he's paid off?

geeky

Gavin shels wrote: »

Interesting that Brian Laws has been given the title of interim Director of Football rather than interim Manager.

Is Kenny still techinally manager till he's paid off?

That's my understanding of it anyway - that he's on paid 'gardening leave' until he gets another job, so he won't have to be paid up in full on the contract.

Isn't Devlin a 'director of football' at Bray as well? was there a similar situation there?

dreamers75

geeky wrote: »

That's my understanding of it anyway - that he's on paid 'gardening leave' until he gets another job, so he won't have to be paid up in full on the contract.

Interesting part of that is if he gets a job managing some under 12s team for 50 quid a week. Rovers have to pay the balance of his wages until his contract is up with them.

Or they can agree a settlement.

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

geeky wrote: »

That's my understanding of it anyway - that he's on paid 'gardening leave' until he gets another job, so he won't have to be paid up in full on the contract.

Interesting part of that is if he gets a job managing some under 12s team for 50 quid a week. Rovers have to pay the balance of his wages until his contract is up with them.

Or they can agree a settlement.

Grand give him the Shels job on minimum wage so and let Rovers pay the rest.

bohsman

geeky wrote: »

Isn't Devlin a 'director of football' at Bray as well? was there a similar situation there?

I thought that was because he is an agent and it was a conflict of interest for him to hold a manager role.

Lawrence1895

Gavin shels wrote: »

Interesting that Brian Laws has been given the title of interim Director of Football rather than interim Manager.

Is Kenny still techinally manager till he's paid off?

More interesting is the word 'interim'. Let's say, they fail to win the match on Saturday and fail to qualify for Europe, in this case, they look for someone else, because he is only 'interim'?

Gavin "shels"

geeky wrote: »

That's my understanding of it anyway - that he's on paid 'gardening leave' until he gets another job, so he won't have to be paid up in full on the contract.

Can't be cheap for Rovers having to pay Stephen Kenny is 100k a year and whatever crazy amount Laws is on, can't be coming cheap.

Hard Worker

Lars1916 wrote: »

More interesting is the word 'interim'. Let's say, they fail to win the match on Saturday and fail to qualify for Europe, in this case, they look for someone else, because he is only 'interim'?

Winning on Saturday doesn't qualify you for Europe.

dreamers75

Gavin shels wrote: »

Can't be cheap for Rovers having to pay Stephen Kenny is 100k a year and whatever crazy amount Laws is on, can't be coming cheap.

Seat paying his wages?

Laws needs us to win the cup or Derry to win and still be banned from Europe. Which afaik they wont be. Altho 6 league wins should see him catch us or drogs in the league.

Lawrence1895

Hard Worker wrote: »

Winning on Saturday doesn't qualify you for Europe.

I know that, but don't you have to finish at least third in the table to qualify for Europe?

Zebra3

dreamers75 wrote: »

Laws needs us to win the cup or Derry to win and still be banned from Europe. Which afaik they wont be.

It's three years of accounts needed so New Derry City should be all right for next year in Europe if they win the cup.

Anyway if Derry win the cup and are still barred, the European place would go to Dundalk.

geeky

Gavin shels wrote: »

Can't be cheap for Rovers having to pay Stephen Kenny is 100k a year and whatever crazy amount Laws is on, can't be coming cheap.

Nope, but from a cash-flow point of view, it's a lot easier than writing a cheque for €200,000! Laws is probably on plenty, though he may have accepted a bit less to be in the public eye while his book is out and he looks across the water for work. In any case, it's a seven-week deal.

Not saying this won't affect the club finances, but Rovers are well-supported and well-funded. If any club can weather that expense and still pay a competitive squad, it's probably the hoops.

Gavin "shels"

geeky wrote: »

Not saying this won't affect the club finances, but Rovers are well-supported and well-funded. If any club can weather that expense and still pay a competitive squad, it's probably the hoops.

Most definitely, it's handy when they pay 10% of their tax bill sure...

Lawrence1895

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's three years of accounts needed so New Derry City should be all right for next year in Europe if they win the cup.

Anyway if Derry win the cup and are still barred, the European place would go to Dundalk.

Did I miss something?

Gavin "shels"

Lars1916 wrote: »

Did I miss something?

Derry folded and set up a new club, so they have to wait till they can play in Europe for a set number of years.

Lawrence1895

Gavin shels wrote: »

Derry folded and set up a new club, so they have to wait till they can play in Europe for a set number of years.

I feel a bit stupid now, but weren't they in the 1st tier all the time? And if you set up a new club, don't you have to start in a quite low division?

(sorry for de-railing the thread)

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Lars1916 wrote: »

I feel a bit stupid now, but weren't they in the 1st tier all the time? And if you set up a new club, don't you have to start in a quite low division?

(sorry for de-railing the thread)

Nope, they played in, and won, the First Division 2 seasons ago, the season before Shels came up.