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cheapest / quickest / easiest XBMC setup

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Access wrote: »
    I normally scrape from the internet when i do a fresh install of xbmc which is fine but can take hours. (my movies are on my NAS in one big folder altogether just named "MOVIES") - Single files in there i.e.
    NAS/Movies/
    movie title 1 (year).avi
    movie title 2 (year).avi
    etc.

    If i used ember and stored all my movies info and pics in the folder with each movie on my NAS, does this mean the next time i go to scrape info during a fresh install of xbmc it will get its info from the movies folders instead saving hours?

    Yes, that is the idea, you save them once, edit them to your liking. Ember has an option to move all movies into seperate folders, you are better doing this so you can add clearart, banners and logo's with the artwork downloaded addon later. I can import my full library (7TB) in 10 mins with all artwork.
    Access wrote: »
    Also, does it cache the movie info then full time on the htpc in the xbmc database like normal?... reason i ask is that one of my XBMC machines is a Raspberry Pi and it would slow down to no speed at all if it had to pull the movie info in real time each time from the NAS as i browsed the movie list.

    Yes, XBMC stores the info from the nfo in it's database. It pulls the thumbnails from the remote drive though, doesn't cache them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Another tip I figured is to sign up to Trakt.tv and setup the Traktr addon to scrobble as you've watched and sync your Movie and TV collection and progress each boot. Then when you reinstall, setup the addon and you'll have your progress in your TV Shows you are watching and Movies will be marked as seen. It saves the trouble of setting up a local database. You don't need to make your profile public, mine is private, I only use it for the reasons above. I know it's data mining, but I don't care, it has it's uses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Yes, that is the idea, you save them once, edit them to your liking. Ember has an option to move all movies into seperate folders, you are better doing this so you can add clearart, banners and logo's with the artwork downloaded addon later. I can import my full library (7TB) in 10 mins with all artwork.

    Yes, XBMC stores the info from the nfo in it's database. It pulls the thumbnails from the remote drive though, doesn't cache them.

    7TB in ten mins! sweet jesus! That sounds brilliant... took 12 hours for getting info and pics for ~500 gig movies (slow BroadBand!).

    Worried about running the Pi this way though... if the Pi had to pull the image for a movie cover from the NAS each time while browsing my movies on it, that could get very slow. Are you 100% sure this is the case? - my HTPC xbmc setup has a folder locally in "xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails" that has all the images local on the htpc, as does the Pi on its SD card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    You can click system-->video-->library-->import video library and it saves them locally to speed it up. It will copy them from the Nas then, no lookup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    Damn... guess what i am doing for the weekend so! :D

    Ember would be the best media organiser out there so?

    Might duplicate my movie folder on the NAS and try it on there before committing to it so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Yeah, I've tried a few and find it the best. I blogged a guide about setting it up for Boxee whick is pretty similar: http://leetstreet.net/blog/2011/05/embe/

    Use a renamer first, something like Filebot, make sure everything is named correctly. Then before you start scraping with Ember, add the source click tools and sort files into folders, select your movies folder and it will put each one in it's own folder. I have since gone over mine and added other artwork Boxee doesn't use to suit XBMC, banners etc. it's best you add them now. It will find most movies, but you will have to help it through some of them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Access wrote: »
    Are you 100% sure this is the case? - my HTPC xbmc setup has a folder locally in "xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails" that has all the images local on the htpc, as does the Pi on its SD card.

    XBMC caches library artwork locally.

    If you don't want to use Ember just scrape your library once with XBMC and export as single files. It does the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    XBMC caches library artwork locally.

    If you don't want to use Ember just scrape your library once with XBMC and export as single files. It does the same thing.

    Ive done export to single file before and saved the database on the Nas so have experience of that, but am currently setting up xbmc on a Pi and it wont let me import that library... Only giving me the option of finding a library on the Pi's rootfolder and homefolder on the Pi's SD card.

    No option of opening a folder anywhere else on the Pi or the network it is on... hence why i had to scrape everything from the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Apologies, import seems to only want to import from a single file, not separate folders. http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Import-export_library


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Access wrote: »
    Ive done export to single file before and saved the database on the Nas so have experience of that, but am currently setting up xbmc on a Pi and it wont let me import that library... Only giving me the option of finding a library on the Pi's rootfolder and homefolder on the Pi's SD card.

    No option of opening a folder anywhere else on the Pi or the network it is on... hence why i had to scrape everything from the internet.

    Sorry, I meant the option that is called 'export to separate files' in XBMC.

    What that does is put a nfo, poster, banner etc into the folder of each movie or TV show (and you should definitely store your movies in separate folders, it is much neater).

    Then in future if you need re-scrape your library (in the case of a second machine or reinstall) it will see those nfo etc files and use them instead of going online.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I'm going to jump on the arctic.

    Can I just check with you guys:

    Will I get the Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10600 RAM 4 GB found in the (Customers who bought this) section
    Seems like an SSD doesn't gain me much over a USB thumb drive for installing openelec and the userdata folder with the artwork cached locally. Might as well get those on amazon. Can anyone recommend me a Thumb drive. ie. Do I need to be looking for a certain spec and what capacity would I need?? Or did I hear SDcard How about this bought by other customers (16GB microSDHC Class 10 UHS-I Memory card micro Samsung chips with SD Adapter) only 9 euro!! Is 16gb enough for my needs. I've only about 2tb of content on my Nas's Or a 32gig Sandisc Sd card Class 4???


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Calibos wrote: »
    I'm going to jump on the arctic.

    Can I just check with you guys:

    Will I get the Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10600 RAM 4 GB found in the (Customers who bought this) section
    Seems like an SSD doesn't gain me much over a USB thumb drive for installing openelec and the userdata folder with the artwork cached locally. Might as well get those on amazon. Can anyone recommend me a Thumb drive. ie. Do I need to be looking for a certain spec and what capacity would I need?? Or did I hear SDcard How about this bought by other customers (16GB microSDHC Class 10 UHS-I Memory card micro Samsung chips with SD Adapter) only 9 euro!! Is 16gb enough for my needs. I've only about 2tb of content on my Nas's Or a 32gig Sandisc Sd card Class 4???

    Booting from the card-reader should be possible (it is on some systems ive had) but note that nettop card-readers usually function at USB 2.0 speed or even slower.

    The Arctic has 2xUSB 3.0 up front, I don't know if its bootable. If it was bootable, a lot of the cheap thumbdrives are exceeding 30MB/s nowadays so it would be worthwhile looking at them. Obviously once you go over a certain price point you'd be better off just getting a small SSD. But i've run OpenElec from slow thumbdrives and its fine.

    You'd want at least a couple of gig for a decent sized library anyway. Above that it just depends what else you want to do with it.

    RAM wise even 1GB is enough. Obviously its more economic to go for 2GB or 4GB but don't worry too much, OpenElec literally uses a couple of hundred MB most of the time. Get whatever you think is good value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    RAM wise even 1GB is enough. Obviously its more economic to go for 2GB or 4GB but don't worry too much, OpenElec literally uses a couple of hundred MB most of the time. Get whatever you think is good value.

    Exactly, I have XBMCbuntu running on my HTPC with 2GB ram and I have 1600MB free ram :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Right. Ordered 4 of them. Est Delivery is 5th-22nd February which was expected. 400 euro odd with 20 euro shipping

    Didn't order any of the USB3 Flash drives or Memory or Harmony remotes I need because the shipping went up to 150 euro!!!! for some reason. I'll source them elsewhere. I have plenty of time till the Arctics arrive anyway. The important thing was to get the order in for the Arctics at that price. Seen the current deal mentioned on loads of forums like the XBMC forums or Openelec, Whirlpool, aria etc. Orders coming into Amazon.de from all over Europe going on the posts on the various forums.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Dr Nic


    Hey guys, just bought the artic. The plan is to run XBMC, dl torrents to it (legal of course), and watch sky go. Any advice? I assume thats all do-able right?
    And control it with an xbmc android remote on my s3?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭stephendevlin


    Dr Nic wrote: »
    Hey guys, just bought the artic. The plan is to run XBMC, dl torrents to it (legal of course), and watch sky go. Any advice? I assume thats all do-able right?
    And control it with an xbmc android remote on my s3?

    All is possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Dr Nic


    Is xmbc the best option for that?
    Is it called xbmc ubuntu?

    What about this openelec business? Thanks again, phenomenally good price cant wait to get stuck into it!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭stephendevlin


    Dr Nic wrote: »
    Is xmbc the best option for that?
    Is it called xbmc ubuntu?

    What about this openelec business? Thanks again, phenomenally good price cant wait to get stuck into it!!

    Its the smallest and the quickest distro. If its only XBMC you want then openelec is the way to go. Boots up in seconds and is very resposnsive. been using it for a few months now and have to say it works great in my opinion. Ive tried the rest and this seems to me to be the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    looking at the artic myself

    what benefits would it offer over my jailbroken atv 2?

    faster im asssuming and 1080p

    also what else do i need to get with it? An SD card to run xbmc and ram, is that it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭stephendevlin


    Cyrus wrote: »
    looking at the artic myself

    what benefits would it offer over my jailbroken atv 2?

    faster im asssuming and 1080p

    also what else do i need to get with it? An SD card to run xbmc and ram, is that it?

    Correct. A low profile usb flash drive might be more descrete

    If it were me with the ATV2 I would flog it. They can fetch a great price at the moment. Wont stay like that for long as better alternatives are already making there way through


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus



    Correct. A low profile usb flash drive might be more descrete

    If it were me with the ATV2 I would flog it. They can fetch a great price at the moment. Wont stay like that for long as better alternatives are already making there way through

    Can the artic be layed on its side?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Can the artic be layed on its side?

    It's not recommended due to cooling reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Can the artic be layed on its side?

    I was thinking that too... but that it cant be is slightly annoying for my needs.
    But that is only a small issue.

    A lot of pros on this particular HTPC, is there any cons that people can see with this unit? Im on the fence with this one if i am honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus



    It's not recommended due to cooling reasons.

    Ok, any idea how tall it is standing?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Ok, any idea how tall it is standing?
    Spec is on the Arctic page, google it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Ok, any idea how tall it is standing?

    They're big...big and bouncy....and curvy....



    Sorry, Oh you mean the Arctic??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    Calibos wrote: »
    They're big...big and bouncy....and curvy....

    My perception is that she is quite slim on top (middle & bottom) but all in all rather tall and elegant. Being necessary to keep her upright it might prove quite difficult to stuff her, in behind the telly. A lot of bondage gear is probably called for.

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    Do-more wrote: »
    My perception is that she is quite slim on top (middle & bottom) but all in all rather tall and elegant. Being necessary to keep her upright it might prove quite difficult to stuff her, in behind the telly. A lot of bondage gear is probably called for.

    And, you wont be able to lay her down on her side cause she will overheat! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I'm trying to decide whether to insert my Thumbstick into the front port or the back port.

    Cause the front is USB 3 and the back is USB 2, like...

    :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    All my stuff shipped today via DHL btw. Expect it all no later than the 6th of February.

    Thank God I opted for some cheap Harmony remotes. 4x 300's for €18 each. Just read last night that Logitech are divesting themselves of the Harmony remote division. While I expect the online remote setup system to remain online for a few years even if the division isn't bought by another company, I'd say we can kiss goodbye to support or the system being updated with new devices. I'd be absolutely kicking myself if I had just ordered some of the higher spec harmony's in the €80+ range.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭guinnessdrinker


    Does anyone know if it is possible to install any satellite tuner cards into this unit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    Here is something to look out for, a set top box with a good range of connections and a quad-core Samsung Exynos 4412 processor.

    That's the same processor that is used by the Odroid development boards which seem to be powerful enough to run 1080P with just software decoding.

    Some of the XBMC developers are working on hardware acceleration using the Odroid so hopefully that can translate to a Exynos STB.

    [Edit] Another Exynos STB here, I can only find wholesaler links at the moment, nothing for retail sale yet but I guess it's only a matter of time.

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    Just spotted this over on XBMC.org test builds of android with hardware acceleration reported to be working flawlessly on an MK808, might be of interest to anybody with an android stick.

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭tippgod


    newbie to this XBMC idea. How much would a system already loaded with XBMC set me back. i have a 500g drive that i would like to connect to it

    thanks


    ( i do have an old xbox if that helps. )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    tippgod wrote: »
    newbie to this XBMC idea. How much would a system already loaded with XBMC set me back. i have a 500g drive that i would like to connect to it

    thanks


    ( i do have an old xbox if that helps. )

    There is no system pre-loaded with XBMC, you're going to have to get your hands dirty. It's been a long time since XBMC ran on an old Xbox, it's moved beyond that long ago as the hardware isn't capable of HD.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭tippgod


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    There is no system pre-loaded with XBMC, you're going to have to get your hands dirty. It's been a long time since XBMC ran on an old Xbox, it's moved beyond that long ago as the hardware isn't capable of HD.


    ok. just looking at ebay at the moment and stuff like the G-box midnight. Are they any good. What initial system should i be looking for?

    thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Its pretty easy to get a system up and running but that said I wouldn't jump in feet first. Install the windows version on your PC first to try it out.


    I've been running XBMC on a load of old Xbox 1's since 2006. I haven't updated the XBMC software since 2007. The only things that stopped working were some of the Add-ons for Youtube or Apple Trailers or the likes due to changes to the websites sometime in the last 6 years. An update would have gotten everything working again I just wasn't bothered. The things are still playing every format I throw at them 7 years later. The problem is that they aren't fast enough to play H264 files or Hidef perfectly with stuttering. The 'Scene' is phasing out xvids at the moment and there is now more and more stuff that I cant play properly. Thats the only reason I got up off my arse and started looking to finally replace my old xboxes.

    That shows XBMC is pretty bullet proof.

    In advance of my MC001's arriving I decided to install XBMC on my PC last night to play around. Just so happens on the very night that the latest version went Gold. (Frodo)

    A straight install will install it on the PC as a Program. For a HTPC one would set it up to start straight after boot, but for our testing purposes we just install it normally. It was painless and I had all my content sources added to XBMC in minutes, same process as XBMC on my xboxes all those years ago. ie. Much more powerful software now, can do much more than it did in the old xbox days, looks better and yet its still just as easy to setup and use.

    You should try it out on your PC first to get a feel for it before you start investigating what way you are going to use it before you can decide the best device to run it on connected to your TV.

    For me having used it on Xbox for so long, I already knew what way I would use it. Pretty much just watching archived media content on a Nas/server. So I knew I wanted a box that could play 1080P HD, wasn't bothered about HD audio formats. Ordinary Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 is grand for me, knew I'll just watched ripped content from the server, however also knew I wanted to use some of the fancier skins. Thus I knew that the tiny 100 euro android boxes or Raspberry Pi wouldn't quite cut it performance wise for me but neither did I need a 400 euro Nettop with the latest Trinity chipset etc

    It just so happened that I was shown this thread for a device that was selling at the moment for the 100 euro android box prices and yet had the middle of the road performance I needed for skins that normally cost 200-300. Since I don't care about HD audio nor Mpeg 2/4 the fact that this box is an unusual combo of 1.8ghz dual core atom but ati mobility GPU does not affect me in the slightest.

    In short. Install XBMC on your PC first and play around with it before you decided on what kind of box for under your TV you want to buy and how much you want to spend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    There is no system pre-loaded with XBMC,

    Not true! You can buy an Xtreamer Ultra 2 with XBMC pre-loaded! :D

    Not that I am recommending it like...;)

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭tippgod


    Do-more wrote: »
    Not true! You can buy an Xtreamer Ultra 2 with XBMC pre-loaded! :D

    Not that I am recommending it like...;)



    A friend in work recommended this

    http://www.xiosds.co.uk/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    tippgod wrote: »
    A friend in work recommended this

    http://www.xiosds.co.uk/

    They definitely have the best support of all the android boxes and you can put linux on them also but the European prices are silly, they are $99 in the US.

    At that money you are much better off getting the Arctic MC001 that Calibos is talking about, it will cost you around €150 all in and will be a hell of a lot more powerful than the Pivos.

    invest4deepvalue.com



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Wasn't really able to judge the new skins too well because most of my movie collection had old faux 3D DVD case art thumbnails. Texture map those into the new ways of displaying film posters in the skins and you've got yourself an ugly mess.

    Then remembered that I haven't even downloaded new ones in years, so there's a rake of movies without any poster/fanart assosciated with them in the folder, thus scraping my movie folder will yield enough of the posters/fanart to be able to judge. Sure enough any movie that had an old thumbnail displayed it but all the newer films had the new posters and fanart. Saw the option to only display recent stuff and bingo, got to check out all the skin display modes with out the jarring faux 3D thumbnails.

    Wow! Loving all the new skins, loving the new display modes and fan art.

    Can't wait to get my mc001's up and running and displaying on the plasmas. Now I just need to delete all the old crap thumbnails, set ember to work on my media folders and scrape all that juicy poster/fanart goodness!

    Of course all this is ancient history to you guys and the last few years of releases have been more about adding PVR functionality and compatibility stuff under the hood so to speak but for me the look of Xbmc now is a revelation because I've been running a 2007 build on old xboxs with the original mayhem skin and haven't bothered scraping in years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    If You're setting Ember to work, this is the best format for the new XBMC (they have changed to fanart.jpg and poster.jpg)
    Movies:
    <movie>-poster.jpg (the XBMC Frodo FAQ says "poster.jpg", but this setting is better because this is the standard to which the XBMC database exported (separate files).
    <movie>-fanart.jpg
    <movie>.nfo

    TV Shows:
    tvshow.nfo
    fanart.jpg
    poster.jpg
    banner.jpg (not supported atm)
    seasonXX-poster.jpg
    seasonXX-banner.jpg (not supported atm)
    seasonXX-fanart.jpg
    season-all-poster.jpg
    season-all-fanart.jpg
    season-specials-poster.jpg
    season-specials-fanart.jpg

    Episodes:
    <episode>.nfo
    <episode>-thumb.jpg

    Actors cache:
    <firstname_name>.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Sorry, I meant the option that is called 'export to separate files' in XBMC.

    What that does is put a nfo, poster, banner etc into the folder of each movie or TV show (and you should definitely store your movies in separate folders, it is much neater).

    Then in future if you need re-scrape your library (in the case of a second machine or reinstall) it will see those nfo etc files and use them instead of going online.

    Can someone explain what all the MySQL malarkey is all about then. I'll have 4 Arctic MC001's running Openelec under the TV's and 2 Desktops and 3 laptops running Windows XBMC in application mode. (8 adults living in house and adjoining apartment(connected to our Network))

    Am I right in thinking that MySQL is as much if not more about keeping track of and keeping separate every instance of XBMC's 'Watched Status' etc) than it is about central repository for NFO data for Library syncing.

    None of us care about the likes of Watched Status. All I care about is that scraping doesn't take long, that I don't have to intervene in the process much if at all to correct stuff, That 8 instances of XBMC aren't downloading the same stuff 8 times over. MySQL scares me and I haven't got a Nas/Server capable of running it. My PC isn't on 24hours but we are a 24hour household. Is it a problem if my brothers machine is looking for the MySQL DB on my PC at 4am but my PC is switched off etc

    Would it be simpler for the time being for me to simply use ember to put my movies into individual folders. To Scrape on my instance of XBMC on my PC. Export Library to separate folders anytime a re-install of someones XBMC is required, otherwise the autoscraping/updating on each machine keeps their XBMC's up to date??


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    Calibos wrote: »

    Am I right in thinking that MySQL is as much if not more about keeping track of and keeping separate every instance of XBMC's 'Watched Status' etc) than it is about central repository for NFO data for Library syncing.
    That is pretty much it. It syncs the entire library which is everything, watched status, resume points, title edits etc.
    Is it a problem if my brothers machine is looking for the MySQL DB on my PC at 4am but my PC is switched off etc

    Yes that would be a problem, it needs to be always on, or always wakeable with a WOL packet.
    Would it be simpler for the time being for me to simply use ember to put my movies into individual folders. To Scrape on my instance of XBMC on my PC. Export Library to separate folders anytime a re-install of someones XBMC is required, otherwise the autoscraping/updating on each machine keeps their XBMC's up to date??

    Should work fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I know I probably missed something simple, but I used Filebot to rename all my content, used ember to put it all in indivdual folders and scrape the art and create NFO's etc. I even clicked the Frodo option in ember.

    Added sources to my Openelec MC001's today.

    They scraped from the internet. I've one left on over night downstairs as we speak still scraping away after hours and hours.

    What did I do wrong. Why didn't it just pull the nfo's and artwork from my NAS instead of going online.

    Should I have selected 'none' in the scraper section when adding source??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Calibos wrote: »
    I know I probably missed something simple, but I used Filebot to rename all my content, used ember to put it all in indivdual folders and scrape the art and create NFO's etc. I even clicked the Frodo option in ember.

    Added sources to my Openelec MC001's today.

    They scraped from the internet. I've one left on over night downstairs as we speak still scraping away after hours and hours.

    What did I do wrong. Why didn't it just pull the nfo's and artwork from my NAS instead of going online.

    Should I have selected 'none' in the scraper section when adding source??

    Yes, you should select the scraper source. It double checks each online ID (thetvdb.com and moviedb.com) from the .nfo, but it shouldn't scrape images.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Ok, I think I see the problem. The .NFO for each episode of a series is named with the name of the episode. However, the .NFO for the Series itself is named TVSHOW. Now although I scraped the movies with Ember, with the TV SHOWS I used the instance of XBMC on my PC. I 'Removed Source' on my Movies so that my instance of XBMC would not screw with the work I had done with Ember on the movies. I Cleaned the Library and then I 'Exported Library as multiple files'. Thus my instance of XBMC populated my TV Show Series and Season Folders with the NFO's and artwork. So What did I do wrong within the settings of XBMC that meant it correctly named the NFO's for each Episode but incorrectly named the NFO for the Series itself.

    Folder structure on my TV Show NAS is:

    Z:\Tv Shows\True blood\Season 1

    BTW, I've connected to my shares from OPenelec 2.99.2 with SMB. Could this be why any movie I tried to play last night cut out after a minute or so. ie. Do I need to mount the shares or something like that. What would you use??

    Thanks for all your help btw. Been a great help to me. As I said before I have been out of the XBMC loop for about 5 years :D


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    Calibos wrote: »
    Ok, I think I see the problem. The .NFO for each episode of a series is named with the name of the episode. However, the .NFO for the Series itself is named TVSHOW. Now although I scraped the movies with Ember, with the TV SHOWS I used the instance of XBMC on my PC. I 'Removed Source' on my Movies so that my instance of XBMC would not screw with the work I had done with Ember on the movies. I Cleaned the Library and then I 'Exported Library as multiple files'. Thus my instance of XBMC populated my TV Show Series and Season Folders with the NFO's and artwork. So What did I do wrong within the settings of XBMC that meant it correctly named the NFO's for each Episode but incorrectly named the NFO for the Series itself.

    Its hard to read/follow that but to be honest its just easier to forget about ember. Just scrape with an instance of XBMC (make sure to use Frodo) and then export. You know everything will be named properly.

    BTW, I've connected to my shares from OPenelec 2.99.2 with SMB. Could this be why any movie I tried to play last night cut out after a minute or so. ie. Do I need to mount the shares or something like that. What would you use??

    I heard someone complain of the same issue on OpenElec forum on the Arctic with wifi. It would cut out after a minute.

    Im using wifi temporarily on the Arctic and I have no issues although saying that I use Hanewin on Windows which is a NFS server. I just found that I have less issues than Windows built in SMB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Gets weirder and weirder. As of this morning, only a handful of shows had scraped and showed episodes in the library. I started scraping each show manually. Takes about 20 minutes for each one so I know its scraping online. I make a change described above. ie rename series .NFO from tvshow.nfo to True Blood.NFO and initiate a refresh for True Blood. Nothing happens, I go back to series list and now library is fully populated for all my shows.......except True Blood!!!!

    The speed the rest was populated while I was in the True Blood folder doing a manual refresh tells me that something I did triggered a refresh of all the other series and that this time it did see all the NFO's (all named tvshow.nfo) and pulled all the stuff on the server in a matter of seconds.

    If I can figure this out I'll have the other 3 MC001's I bought for XBMC setup with fully populated libraries in minutes.
    If I can't figure it out it'll take me a day for each one :D

    As to the movies stopping after a minute.

    Wired gigabit network.
    Tv Shows on one Dlink DNS323 and Movies on another DNS323
    Both sources added to XBMC via SMB
    Turns out all TV Show content on TVSHow DNS323 plays without a hitch.
    All Movie Content on Movie DNS323 stops after a minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Is there any advantage to Ember if I am using Sickbeard and Couchpotato to handle my images etc?


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