Pillars of Eternity

Kirby

Yeah I've come to the conclusion that I like quite a lot about this game. I like the classic art style, I like the voice acting, I like the world they have created, I like the way they have developed their classes, I like fantasy worlds and large stories and exploring dungeons, and I especially like branching quests and decisions.

But I don't like the combat. I find it unsatisfying and unwieldy. I don't feel like I'm outsmarting or outmanoeuvring the enemy or using clever combinations of abilities......and the abilities are a chore to use even with hotkeys. The Battle user interface needed work that it never got. The combat feels like an annoyance to get through rather than exciting in itself.

You spend half your time in the game fighting things so I don't think I can soldier through it just for the bits I enjoy which is a shame really. 15 years ago I probably would have stomached the combat but today with all the choices in games, It just doesn't seem worth it.

I may go back to it at some point in the future but for now, I think im done.

mewso

Kirby wrote: »

Yeah I've come to the conclusion that I like quite a lot about this game. I like the classic art style, I like the voice acting, I like the world they have created, I like the way they have developed their classes, I like fantasy worlds and large stories and exploring dungeons, and I especially like branching quests and decisions.

But I don't like the combat. I find it unsatisfying and unwieldy. I don't feel like I'm outsmarting or outmanoeuvring the enemy or using clever combinations of abilities......and the abilities are a chore to use even with hotkeys. The Battle user interface needed work that it never got. The combat feels like an annoyance to get through rather than exciting in itself.

You spend half your time in the game fighting things so I don't think I can soldier through it just for the bits I enjoy which is a shame really. 15 years ago I probably would have stomached the combat but today with all the choices in games, It just doesn't seem worth it.

I may go back to it at some point in the future but for now, I think im done.

I stopped playing early as I realised like many recent kickstarters it's not yet the game they intended and I'm going to wait until the next few patches come in. Like you I'm not that big a fan of the combat. It doesn't help that I would far prefer if it was turn based. I know this is a BG homage but a brave move like the torment guys to turn based could have been a godsend for this game and the deep rules system they have built. Oh well.

It's also a pity they have no XP for combat bar minor monster XP. I respect the idea to move enphasis away from combat from an XP point of view but you can't do that and then make a game that involves nothing but. For what it's worth I did find telling the game to switch to slow speed when combat starts was a big help.

johnny_ultimate

Oh yeah, forgot to change the thread title :pac:

Kirby

mewso wrote: »

I stopped playing early as I realised like many recent kickstarters it's not yet the game they intended and I'm going to wait until the next few patches come in. Like you I'm not that big a fan of the combat. It doesn't help that I would far prefer if it was turn based. I know this is a BG homage but a brave move like the torment guys to turn based could have been a godsend for this game and the deep rules system they have built. Oh well.

It's also a pity they have no XP for combat bar minor monster XP. I respect the idea to move enphasis away from combat from an XP point of view but you can't do that and then make a game that involves nothing but. For what it's worth I did find telling the game to switch to slow speed when combat starts was a big help.

Yes there are a good amount of options regarding the pausing in combat, which is nice. I too clicked the "slow mode when entering combat" button like you said. I also tried a variety of different options but it ultimately didn't help. The combat just isn't satisfying.

And I don't understand why abilities you are going to be using every encounter, are hidden away in submenu's in tiny Icons. Take Aloth your wizard companion for example. He has tier 1, 2 and 3 spells from his grimoire. I'm going to be using them nearly every turn. Why are they so small? The UI has an awesome scaling option but it doesn't effect the ability icon sizes. That's not "being classic or oldschool". That's bad design. It was bad design then and its bad design now.

Kiith

Started playing this properly last night, and enjoying it. It's bloody tough at times, but the story seems interesting and the companions are good so far. Went back to my roots and picked a Paladin, and have finished the first few areas. Definitely doing better with two tanks then i remember doing when i picked a Rogue. Healing spells are a bloody life saver at times. Managed to clear out the temple under the first town without too much hassle, though it wasn't easy (needed that 4th party member first).

Disapopinted there's not romantic interests in it though. I know they're often terrible in games, but i always enjoyed them in Baldurs Gate and other RPG's. Hopefully the regular companions prove interesting enough.

Xenji

Has anyone downloaded the The White March Part I expansion yet, it is out today?

Lone Stone

is the new xpack free ? had a 2gb patch there, i loved game when i got it but trailed of about half way through and stopped playing might try get back into it.

Xenji

Lone Stone wrote: »

is the new xpack free ? had a 2gb patch there, i loved game when i got it but trailed of about half way through and stopped playing might try get back into it.

It is 14.99 on Steam.

Mike Litoris

Lone Stone wrote: »

is the new xpack free ? had a 2gb patch there, i loved game when i got it but trailed of about half way through and stopped playing might try get back into it.

IMO it didn't get any better! I found it quite a slog towards the end and then the ending came kinda abruptly.

Xenji

Xenji wrote: »

Has anyone downloaded the The White March Part I expansion yet, it is out today?

Downloading it as we speak.

quarryman

I'm a bit confused. I just loaded up steam for the first time in a while and it's downloading a 2gb patch for PoE.

This is just the 2.0 update with AI and not The White March?

quarryman

quarryman wrote: »

I'm a bit confused. I just loaded up steam for the first time in a while and it's downloading a 2gb patch for PoE.

This is just the 2.0 update with AI and not The White March?

I got that patch. Then I entered the Steam code for the expansion and it downloaded another 2gb.

So yeah I think the first download was just 2.0.

quarryman

Luca Red Guano wrote: »

I got that patch. Then I entered the Steam code for the expansion and it downloaded another 2gb.

So yeah I think the first download was just 2.0.

Yep. Just read up on it there. I haven't bought the expansion but it seems they've released the update 2.0 on the same day.

Lone Stone

shame there is no new class would have loved a necromancer type. (no chanter doesnt count !!)

ShaneU

Bought this in the sale and loving it so far, however found a dungeon early on that seems to be very difficult for my current level and there doesn't seem to be a way to tell the enemy's level? Keep getting destroyed by 4 enemies attacking me at once

I found I had to completely mix up my tactics and abilities to start actually winning any fights. Maybe try doing things really differently?
Even at that i'm still playing on easy setting ;s

Manach

Then (recent steam sale):
Pshaw I thought, I am a veteran RPG player so I am playing this on hard.

Now:
whimper

Xenji

Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire is coming and will be a direct sequel, although it will be a equity crowdfunding effort through Fig and Obsidian are seeking at least $1.1 million, with $2.25 million open for equity.

Xenji

Campaign is now live, and already has reached nearly 20% of the goal, https://www.fig.co/campaigns/deadfire?utm_source=Obsidian&utm_campaign=CF17&utm_medium=twitter

First trailer is out as well.

Grassey

Cheers for the heads up, don't know how I missed this. I'm now backer 39something something

YouSavedMyLife

Awesome! As much as i liked PoE i thought Tyranny was the better game over all, only let down by its seemingly rushed ending. Tyranny had a more tangible storyline and the lore and backstory of the world was presented much better than in PoE. The companions in PoE where either boring or annoying and i don't think i did a single companion storyline, where as in Tyranny i did every single one and found all companions enjoyable. Also i think they should reduce max party size too. 5 Should be a sweet spot, but i wouldn't argue with 4.

So yeah can't wait, looking forward to it

Canis Lupus

Manach wrote: »

Then (recent steam sale):
Pshaw I thought, I am a veteran RPG player so I am playing this on hard.

Now:
whimper

Oh a bear. This should be easy.

Jilm

100% funded in less than 24 hours.

Icyseanfitz

is the PoE 1 worth a play? hard to follow it?

Dave_The_Sheep

It's on sale at the moment, well worth a play through. Main storyline is hit and miss but the side characters are interesting as are the various side quests, and the world itself is well put together. I really liked it.

Grassey

Jilm wrote:

100% funded in less than 24 hours.

And stretch goal 1 now reached.

YouSavedMyLife

This popped up in my suggested videos today and i have to say i don't remember any of this! :pac: Storyline of the first game is a total blur to me, was it really that incoherent?

With PoEII releasing in a couple of hours thank Berath for that video as i wouldn't have a clue what was going on!











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-Edit- Did a search to find this game assuming it was in the PC forum, but its in General?

Sephiroth_dude

Didn't realize it was out today.

Kiith

The story was the reason i stopped playing PoE1. I just didn't care about it, or any of the characters. That's an essential component for these kinds of games imo.

Mike Litoris

Kiith wrote: »

The story was the reason i stopped playing PoE1. I just didn't care about it, or any of the characters. That's an essential component for these kinds of games imo.

Same. I found the whole experience boring as hell. I stuck it out to the end but it was a slog and then the end came out of nowhere! The whole thing felt way too linear and the combat was messy imo.


Anyone getting POE2?

Mickeroo

I played through it last month and really enjoyed it once I got into it. I did all the companion quests and everything. Didn't like the combat all that much though so played it on story mode after the first few areas.

Will definitely get the 2nd one at some stage, though not until it goes on sale I reckon. Hopefully it pops up on humble monthly at some stage like the first one did.

Kiith

Reviews are very good. 88/100 from PcGamer, 8.5 from IGN and whole host of high to mid 80's from most reviewers.

Xenji

Kiith wrote: »

Reviews are very good. 88/100 from PcGamer, 8.5 from IGN and whole host of high to mid 80's from most reviewers.

The main story seems to be the weakest part of the game again going by what I have read and the naval combat seems to be a bit pointless and under developed, like the previous game it looks like the most fun to be had is with the side quests.

YouSavedMyLife

Spent 4 hours playing yesterday and about 3 of those was spent making a character, no kidding. I created a character then played for abit only to realized i made one small mistake and i started over :pac: While lying in bed last night i thought up other ideas for my character and wish i could start over again :pac:

Game looks great and can't wait to get stick back in later today. The narrator was voiced at the start of the game which got my hyped only to have it stop about 15 minutes into the game, that was disappointing. Also the FPS on the world map is really terrible. Its at 40-45 FPS both lowest settings and ultra settings No idea why as there is sweet feck all on it and doesn't look graphic intensive in the slightest...

Mickeroo

Can you carry over your save file and keep your character from the first game?

YouSavedMyLife

Mickeroo wrote: »

Can you carry over your save file and keep your character from the first game?

Yes. There is 6 or so premade histories and you can also create a history from scratch in game going over almost all major events in the game

Glebee

Have not played PoE yet but see its become available on Origin Access. Must give it a try.

YouSavedMyLife

Wow there is a whole lot of game here, Pillars 2 that is. I have been playing for 21 hours so far and feel like I'm only scratching the surface. The world map is huge and i have only discovered about 10% of it, almost like an "open world" game compared to the original which was somewhat linear in what areas you needed to traverse through the get to the next area.

The constant visions and spirit realm **** from the first game are dialed backed a tonne, which makes the storyline more tangible and far more enjoyable in my opinion. I'm enjoying the new characters and companions im meeting in the game and the fact all dialogue is voiced (and voiced well) really adds to the experience.

Can't say enough good about this game compared to the first. Looking back the first game was a 6.5 MAYBE a 7 out of 10, with this being a solid 9 thus far.

Glebee

Glebee wrote: »

Have not played PoE yet but see its become available on Origin Access. Must give it a try.

Very late to the party with PoE1. Just started and gone through the first few areas. Not feeling the love for this at all for some reason and usually like these type of games, does it get better. Currently only have two people in my party, maybe im not giving it enough of a chance.

bigphil2

I have the first POE in my backlog ,my feeling is that Divinity:Original Sin 2 has set the bar for these types of games now and that its going to be a disappointment..

Mike Litoris

I ended up getting this and it's epic! Just got off the first island so early days yet but so far I'm loving it. Only issue I have is with the cowboy accents. Seriously WTF in a game like this.


I thought the first started out great but quickly got monotonous. Hopefully this doesn't go the same way.

YouSavedMyLife

Mike Litoris wrote: »

I ended up getting this and it's epic! Just got off the first island so early days yet but so far I'm loving it. Only issue I have is with the cowboy accents. Seriously WTF in a game like this.


I thought the first started out great but quickly got monotonous. Hopefully this doesn't go the same way.

I've gotten used to the southern US accents now. At least they are consistent in keeping the accents to where the characters are from in the world. Italian accent for Valian Republics, Southern US for Dyrwood/Readceres, Sub-Sahara africa for Ruatai. Aedyr and Deadfire seems to be abit of a mixed back of English and Neutral American accent.

Great game im loving it, far surpasses the original

Kiith

I'm playing through the first one at the moment. Decided to give it a proper go, and actually read more the text, which is keeping me interested so far. Only going through the first area, but enjoying it at the moment. I'd like to finish it before trying the 2nd, but we'll see how i feel in 10 or so hours.

Glebee wrote: »

Have not played PoE yet but see its become available on Origin Access. Must give it a try.

Does the Origin Access version have the expansions? Don't have either on Steam, but would swap over to Origin if it does.

Glebee

Kiith wrote: »

I'm playing through the first one at the moment. Decided to give it a proper go, and actually read more the text, which is keeping me interested so far. Only going through the first area, but enjoying it at the moment. I'd like to finish it before trying the 2nd, but we'll see how i feel in 10 or so hours.


Does the Origin Access version have the expansions? Don't have either on Steam, but would swap over to Origin if it does.

Access version is just the base game, expansions available at a cost

Kiith

Will stick with Steam so. Might get the expansions if i stick with the game.

Spear

Glebee wrote: »

Access version is just the base game, expansions available at a cost

Like any good drug dealer, the first hit is free...

Glebee

I completely forgot that I could hire adventurers to make up my party. No wonder I was getting no where trying to fight groups when I had only two in my party. Just got a whole lot easier...

Mickeroo

Glebee wrote: »

I completely forgot that I could hire adventurers to make up my party. No wonder I was getting no where trying to fight groups when I had only two in my party. Just got a whole lot easier...

There's also 8 NPCs scattered around the world you can recruit (with their own backstories and side quests), if you're on higher difficulties it's better to make your own though apparently.

Mike Litoris

Anyone get

Modwyr

yet? The dialogue is f*cking hilarious!

Antar Bolaeisk

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Anyone get

Modwyr

yet? The dialogue is f*cking hilarious!

Just picked it up, very easy to miss if you're not trying to squeeze into all the nooks and crannies.

Think I'm going to hold off on playing this until there's a patch, the bugs are just too frustrating at the moment.