Is alcohol really that great?

juan.kerr

Just ask Barney Gumble from The Simpsons. It has ruined his life.

SoundFella

juan.kerr wrote: »

Just ask Barney Gumble from The Simpsons. It has ruined his life.

But you can't beat some of that sweet duff beer

beeroclock

juan.kerr wrote: »

Just ask Barney Gumble from The Simpsons. It has ruined his life.

How do you ask a cartoon character something?

GalwayGuy2

How do you ask a cartoon character something?

Another benefit of Alcohol:P

Tombi!

juan.kerr wrote: »

Just ask Barney Gumble from The Simpsons. It has ruined his life.

You really think so?
The thought of having to go through college would have sent me into a life of drinking also.

RossyG

Getting drunk's often fun when you're young, but once you get over thirty then the hangovers last all day and that takes the joy out of it.

NegativeCreep

You guys all need to grow a set of testicles and stop whinging about hangovers! Hangovers are fantastic in my opinion because everyone stays away from me for the whole day for fear that they may feel the wrath of the negative creep. Some of the best days I've had are when I was hungover, seriously.

Shenshen

Well, I enjoy a glass of beer or wine. But I never drink more than 2 in an evening. I find that once I have more, the fun goes out of it, I start feeling annoyed and sick as well as tired, and will feel like dying all of the next day.
So I suspect that enjoying alcohol is all about how much you actually drink.

People in Ireland assure me that I'm not drinking anywhere near enough, but they have yet to convince me of the desirability of throwing up in public and debilitating headaches.

RossyG

NegativeCreep wrote: »

You guys all need to grow a set of testicles and stop whinging about hangovers! Hangovers are fantastic in my opinion because everyone stays away from me for the whole day for fear that they may feel the earth of the negative creep. Some of the best days I've had are when I was hungover, seriously.

I grew a set of testicles ages ago, but I still hate hangovers.

NegativeCreep

RossyG wrote: »

NegativeCreep wrote: »

You guys all need to grow a set of testicles and stop whinging about hangovers! Hangovers are fantastic in my opinion because everyone stays away from me for the whole day for fear that they may feel the earth of the negative creep. Some of the best days I've had are when I was hungover, seriously.

I grew a set of testicles ages ago, but I still hate hangovers.

They've stopped working man. You need a better pair.

RossyG

They were working all right last night.

GalwayGuy2

They were working all right last night.

Sounds like the beginning of your mother joke:P

NegativeCreep

RossyG wrote: »

They were working all right last night.

How much is a subscription to pornhub anyway? :pac:

Tombi!

RossyG wrote: »

They were working all right last night.

Ah, a good Saturday night in yanking away to the women on the sex chat adds. :pac:

RossyG

Women??? Eurgh!

pragmatic1

NegativeCreep wrote: »

You guys all need to grow a set of testicles and stop whinging about hangovers! Hangovers are fantastic in my opinion because everyone stays away from me for the whole day for fear that they may feel the earth of the negative creep. Some of the best days I've had are when I was hungover, seriously.

What age are you NegativeCreep? Are you under 20 by any chance.

NegativeCreep

pragmatic1 wrote: »

NegativeCreep wrote: »

You guys all need to grow a set of testicles and stop whinging about hangovers! Hangovers are fantastic in my opinion because everyone stays away from me for the whole day for fear that they may feel the earth of the negative creep. Some of the best days I've had are when I was hungover, seriously.

What age are you NegativeCreep? Are you under 20 by any chance.

I'm 18. Just don't hold it against me :pac:

Haelium

So far what I'm getting from the responses in this thread is "I'm a boring **** who can't have fun unless I'm piss faced".

It's a bit ridiculous that taking this drug is almost mandatory if you want to make friends while taking less harmful drugs such as MDMA, LSD and Cannabis is socially stigmatized.

I would say that most of Irish society is addicted to alcohol without realizing it.

Wade in the Sea

Wow how come it took 5 pages to get here?

Answer: yeah

suicide_circus

The consumption of alcohol has, on occasion, resulted in women allowing me to penetrate them. Therefore, i'm in favour.

Doylers

Im 20 drunk a nice bit when I was 17/18 and gave up about a year ago completely. I just thought it was so sad people needed drink to enjoy themselves. I once asked someone who was at a house gathering(not really a session) how would you night have differed if you didnt drink those 2 bottles of wine, all I got was an I dunno,

pragmatic1

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I'm 18. Just don't hold it against me :pac:

No offense lad but you don't know what a hangover is YET. I wish we could trade livers.

SoundFella

Haelium wrote: »

So far what I'm getting from the responses in this thread is "I'm a boring **** who can't have fun unless I'm piss faced".

It's a bit ridiculous that taking this drug is almost mandatory if you want to make friends while taking less harmful drugs such as MDMA, LSD and Cannabis is socially stigmatized.

I would say that most of Irish society is addicted to alcohol without realizing it.

Yeah everyone is addicted and doesn't realise it until they try and stop , anyone on this who drinks more than 3 times a week try and stop for a month and see how you get on and then you'll realise your hooked , and I'm a drinker but pull it back because it recks my head and im unproductive for the next 24hours.

anhedonia

my life is infinitely better without it,
but then I used to drink like a man possessed and swallow truck-loads of drugs to boot.
Now not feeling hungover all the time is a euphoria all in itself, I believe 'high on life' is the phrase, which sounds like an absolute crock of sh1t, but its true !!
but each to their own, im not gonna preach, would be way too hypocritical, given my past.

Tombi!

Haelium wrote: »

So far what I'm getting from the responses in this thread is "I'm a boring **** who can't have fun unless I'm piss faced".

It's a bit ridiculous that taking this drug is almost mandatory if you want to make friends while taking less harmful drugs such as MDMA, LSD and Cannabis is socially stigmatized.

I would say that most of Irish society is addicted to alcohol without realizing it.

I would like to argue back but honestly: make friends with people who aren't idiots instead. It's easier in the long term.

SoundFella

anhedonia wrote: »

my life is infinitely better without it,
but then I used to drink like a man possessed and swallow truck-loads of drugs to boot.
Now not feeling hungover all the time is a euphoria all in itself, I believe 'high on life' is the phrase, which sounds like an absolute crock of sh1t, but its true !!

and how did you overcome not drinking & drugs?

Holsten

No it's not.

In moderation it's brilliant, but most people either simply can't or don't want to drink in moderation.

I love beer, love wine, don't like getting out of my head drunk though.

anhedonia

SoundFella wrote: »

and how did you overcome not drinking & drugs?

I reached a point where I genuinely didnt want that life anymore.
Everything seemed fine on the outside, had a decent job, apartment etc. but on the inside I was barely keeping it together.
Every working week was a struggle against depression, anxiety, lethargy, due to coming down from a monster 48hour weekend session of drinking and pills, and just when I start to feel normal its friday and go out and do it all again.
After a decade of that I finally realized that its no way to live, thankfully.

There's a whole world out there, get out and live it.

Herb Powell

amjon. wrote: »

Drink is fine in moderation. I do believe that the government should put a 1 euro levy on each unit sold in order to offset the health costs associated with its abuse.

That is ridiculous. Bottles of decent (or any) beer would double in price. Fucck that, it's already expensive enough as it is here.

1ZRed

I love alcohol. I think it's that great.

SoundFella

anhedonia wrote: »

SoundFella wrote: »

and how did you overcome not drinking & drugs?

I reached a point where I genuinely didnt want that life anymore.
Everything seemed fine on the outside, had a decent job, apartment etc. but on the inside I was barely keeping it together.
Every working week was a struggle against depression, anxiety, lethargy, due to coming down from a monster 48 weekend session of drinking and pills, and just when I start to feel normal its friday and go out and do it all again.
After a decade of that I finally realized that its no way to live, thankfully.

There's a whole world out there, get out and live it.

There wise words , did you never not crave to drink or pop a pill again?

Carson10

Yes, alcohol makes Irish girls look beautiful. Then they look ugly again come monday morning. Its a vicious cycle.

SoundFella

Carson10 wrote: »

Yes, alcohol makes Irish girls look beautiful. Then they look ugly again come monday morning. Its a vicious cycle.

i think actually irish men were put last place in attractiveness in a recent poll.

Carson10

SoundFella wrote: »

i think actually irish men were put last place in attractiveness in a recent poll.

Yeah maybe, iam talking about the girls. Its ok if your into men.

1ZRed

Carson10 wrote: »

Yes, alcohol makes Irish girls look beautiful. Then they look ugly again come monday morning. Its a vicious cycle.

And Irish lads are just as ugly if not far uglier.

SoundFella

Carson10 wrote: »

SoundFella wrote: »

i think actually irish men were put last place in attractiveness in a recent poll.

Yeah maybe, iam talking about the girls. Its ok if your into men.

I'm not gay hahaha , but yeah compared to the women in the Uk, America, Spain or even Russia , they don't come close :P lol

Shenshen

Carson10 wrote: »

Yes, alcohol makes Irish girls look beautiful. Then they look ugly again come monday morning. Its a vicious cycle.

That's the first semi-plausible explanation as to why Irish women drink such extraordinarily vast amounts ofalcohol compared to practically everywhere else. There's just no ther way they could suffer Irish men otherwise.

Scioch

Holsten wrote: »

No it's not.

In moderation it's brilliant, but most people either simply can't or don't want to drink in moderation.

Thats because of the nature of the effects it has. A few pints is fine and all ya need. But after a few pints your not gonna be thinking I'm grand now I'll go home. Your gonna be more inclined to keep drinking.

Thats where the drinking responsibly argument falls down imo. Your not very likely to be thinking responsibly when your drunk. All the talk and good intentions before hand becomes redundant when you have a belly full of grog.

So everything is fine in moderation but moderation isnt what people think it is. Drinking in moderation is never getting drunk because if your drunk your in no condition to make responsibly decisions.

NegativeCreep

I think what's meant by moderation isn't going out every weekend and having a few but going out less often and having as much as you want. I'd go out once a month or so and drink as much or as little as I want whereas a lot of people seem to go out every weekend and get slaughtered!

Shenshen

Scioch wrote: »

Thats because of the nature of the effects it has. A few pints is fine and all ya need. But after a few pints your not gonna be thinking I'm grand now I'll go home. Your gonna be more inclined to keep drinking.

Thats where the drinking responsibly argument falls down imo. Your not very likely to be thinking responsibly when your drunk. All the talk and good intentions before hand becomes redundant when you have a belly full of grog.

So everything is fine in moderation but moderation isnt what people think it is. Drinking in moderation is never getting drunk because if your drunk your in no condition to make responsibly decisions.

Depends how much "a few" actually is. If it's one or two, maybe three, there's no problem. If you're drinking enough to become unable to make responsible decisions, well, that's not responsible drinking. Simples.

Daveysil15

It's different for everyone though. Some people may get drunk after just 2 pints if they don't have much of tolerance for it. Others could drink 5 or 6 pints and be perfectly fine.

NegativeCreep

PickledLime wrote: »

You're really doing it wrong then (the 'living life' bit).

I cannot deny this.

Scioch

Shenshen wrote: »

Depends how much "a few" actually is. If it's one or two, maybe three, there's no problem. If you're drinking enough to become unable to make responsible decisions, well, that's not responsible drinking. Simples.

Yet ya never see a responsible drinking campaign that focuses on anything other than people getting sloshed. People think responsible drinking is not getting sloshed, they still get drunk yet think they are drinking responsibly because they are not completely hammered and avoided the double vodkas.

Diagio doesnt do anything to dissuade this view either as they dont want to. They show the effects of WAYYYYY too much drink, they gloss over the effects of what people mostly believe is an ok amount, main effect being it throws your ability to make responsible decisions out the window and sets ya on the road to ruin.

Daveysil15

suicide_circus wrote: »

The consumption of alcohol has, on occasion, resulted in women allowing me to penetrate them. Therefore, i'm in favour.

For me it usually results in a slap in the face, or... "Get lost creep."

luckyfrank

alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems

Quorum

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I think men in their 30s and 40s actually spend less time in the pub than our fathers generation did, the beer belly is disappearing and younger men are more conscious of their health IMO.

I doubt this, we drink far far more as a nation than we did 20, 30, 40 years ago.

PickledLime

NegativeCreep wrote: »

You guys all need to grow a set of testicles and stop whinging about hangovers! Hangovers are fantastic in my opinion because everyone stays away from me for the whole day for fear that they may feel the wrath of the negative creep. Some of the best days I've had are when I was hungover, seriously.

Still haven't got the hang of that old 'living life' gig yet.

Witchie

The wine I am drinking right now is!

Turn 39 in a few hours and my son has moved to Dublin to go to College starting tomorrow so bloody well need the drink. :mad:

McChubbin

I have rose wine and I'm writing a smutty fanfiction. The wine greases up the lug-nuts, so to speak. Having said that, Erdinger Pikantus currently had me in the grips of a fierce hangover this morning. I only had 4 bottles but with an alcohol content of 7.3%, it knocked my socks off.
Still doesn't put me off. My aunt lives next to a great offie that sells some real avant-garde beers. I spotted one last night with a content of 10.5% and a Ralph Steadman-style label so if you have to peel me off the floor following Ocktoberfest, that'll be the reason why.

MultiUmm

Haelium wrote: »

So far what I'm getting from the responses in this thread is "I'm a boring **** who can't have fun unless I'm piss faced".

It's a bit ridiculous that taking this drug is almost mandatory if you want to make friends while taking less harmful drugs such as MDMA, LSD and Cannabis is socially stigmatized.

I would say that most of Irish society is addicted to alcohol without realizing it.

Wasn't there a really dangerous bad batch of MDMA surfacing around Cork last week? Those two lads in Kinsale died after taking it. At least with alcohol you know what's in it (sugar, barley, sulphur etc.) and the content of alcohol you're drinking, and you can be certain one bottle of beer is not going to potentially kill you on a night out. Can you really say the same for MDMA when you have no way of knowing what has gone into it?

Alcohol isn't the best thing ever when one takes into consideration all the negatives it has. But it's incorrect to completely blame just the substance - do the people consuming it have to take no responsibility for their actions? No one forced them to down 2 or 3 naggins on a night out, they chose to do this. I'm not preaching as I often drink excessively myself. If alcohol wasn't such a taboo in so many families I don't think the binge drinking problem we have in Ireland would be so severe. I know countless of my friends whose parents had an iron fist with them over drinking before they turned 18 are now some of the heaviest most excessive drinkers since they're legal to buy drink themselves.