Liverpool vs Manchester United 23rd September 2012 K/O 1.30 PM (MOD NOTE #1, #254)

yabadabado · 24-09-2012 3:00pm

SlickRic wrote: »

anyone wishing cancer on anyone obviously takes football far too seriously, and/or has nothing else important in life.

and doing it over social media; cowards on top of it.

They are just scum,simple as that.

Sir Gallagher · 24-09-2012 3:02pm

Too much attention is paid to stupid sh1te people say on the internet. It's just too easy to talk complete bollox on, i mean for instance, i'm sure Des is a sound enough fella in real life. :pac:

citytillidie · 24-09-2012 3:11pm

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Surprised Sky Sports have not mentioned this.( someone correct me if i`m wrong )

Would be a good thing if they did might shame the people who were making the sick comments

But I do wonder if some fans had the same outrage when other "fans" had a go a ref on twitter and message boards going as far as death threats which made said ref retire from the game

FatherTed · 24-09-2012 3:12pm

On the Shevley-Evans incident, the proper thing to do would have been a yellow to both players. However, I really don't think Mark Halsey is a closeted Man Utd fan and thinks 'oh great, heres a chance for me to give them an advantage'. We have the benefit of replays and slow-motion and cameras from different angles while the Ref have to make the decision on what he sees from where he is at in full motion. There will come a time in the future when red card/penalty/goal decisions will be reviewed on video by the Ref/4th Official like in the NFL but until then trust is put in the referees to make these decisions and there are times when they get them wrong.
As for divers, I have zero time for them even if they are on the team I support. IMO, Suarez "fell" way too easily in the box and maybe Valencia did as well but it was less obvious. This is my biggest pet peeve with the sport today. Big strong men falling over like daisies, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.

About the so-called fans singing obnoxious songs about tragedies the other team has suffered, these are pretty much low-life's and these two great teams ought to weed them out and ban them. I have zero tolerance to these ignorant scumbags.

LuckyLloyd · 24-09-2012 3:24pm

Melion wrote: »

I wonder how this thread would have gone if there was no red card

It would have been very different because Liverpool would likely have won the game.

Will I Amnt · 24-09-2012 3:27pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Melion wrote: »

I wonder how this thread would have gone if there was no red card

It would have been very different because Liverpool would likely have won the game.

Yea and we would be the ones bitching and moaning about referees and tackles and what not.
Such is life in the soccer forum :pac:

ohyesthefinest · 24-09-2012 6:47pm

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2012-09-24/halsey-makes-police-complaint-over-abuse/ Hope they get the book thrown at them!

Mars Bar · 24-09-2012 6:59pm

I genuinely thought Evans was gonna get a red and not Shelvey for that tackle. Hence my :eek: reaction on this thread when Shelvey got a red.

RVP's tackle was fairly dangerous too. You can't show your studs like that.

Mr Alan · 24-09-2012 7:05pm

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2012-09-24/halsey-makes-police-complaint-over-abuse/ Hope they get the book thrown at them!

Both should be banned from Anfield for life.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-09-2012 7:05pm

Have to say I dont have problem with Liverpool been annoyed with the major incidents and outcomes.

Very harsh and had been other way around would been not best pleased.

Just glad this game is over though. The crap over last week went way into orbit.

Mr Alan · 24-09-2012 7:12pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Have to say I dont have problem with Liverpool been annoyed with the major incidents and outcomes.

Very harsh and had been other way around would been not best pleased.

Just glad this game is over though. The crap over last week went way into orbit.

This is the thing for me, I don't get why Utd fans can't just admit the ref cocked up & we were robbed.

Can't help but feel if the roles were reversed I'd possibly take more smug satisfaction in that than winning fair & square in an even game!

kryogen · 24-09-2012 7:22pm

Robbed is strong I think, Liverpool still should have won the game they just cant finish for ****.

Its a handy excuse all the same and make no mistake I would be raging if it was the other way around, but inside I would know that my team lost mainly due to its own ineptitude.

Besides, we had Giggs on the field from the off, Shelvey going off pretty much evened it up

The_Kew_Tour · 24-09-2012 7:24pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

This is the thing for me, I don't get why Utd fans can't just admit the ref cocked up & we were robbed.

Can't help but feel if the roles were reversed I'd possibly take more smug satisfaction in that than winning fair & square in an even game!

Well go to post 2360 in Liverpool thread and you will see the word robbed:p.

But Yes, we did and tbf I suppose in way its sweater as I can get rise of Liverpool friends, but no question had it been other way around I have had the face of this Smilie:mad: for few days.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-09-2012 7:27pm

kryogen wrote: »

Besides, we had Giggs on the field from the off, Shelvey going off pretty much evened it up

If we get lucky(or unlucky I guess) to get Madrid or Barca in CL Knockout and see him in starting 11 then my Blood Pressure will hit the summit.

IvySlayer · 24-09-2012 7:45pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If we get lucky(or unlucky I guess) to get Madrid or Barca in CL Knockout and see him in starting 11 then my Blood Pressure will hit the summit.

If he starts in CM in one of the most important matches United ever played (1-0 loss to City) and Ferguson still hands him big matches, he's guaranteed more big matches. 2 finals vs Barcelona too..

kryogen · 24-09-2012 8:21pm

Its beyond ridiculous at this stage

Will I Amnt · 24-09-2012 8:26pm

He's nailed on to start against City in a couple of weeks.
Probably get a loan of Park off QPR too.

niallo27 · 24-09-2012 9:09pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

Both should be banned from Anfield for life.

I doubt either have ever been anywhere near anfield, I dont see why halsey is going to the police about it, im sure he has heard a lot worse down the years. I'm not conding it by the way its just this twitter ****e does my head in.

opr · 24-09-2012 9:14pm

Why is Halsey going to the Greater Manchester police about the twitter problem? Does he live in Manchester?

Opr

Will I Amnt · 24-09-2012 9:16pm

opr wrote: »

Why is Halsey going to the Greater Manchester police about the twitter problem? Does he live in Manchester?

Opr

Based in Bolton according to his Wiki page.

opr · 24-09-2012 9:20pm

cambo2008 wrote: »

Based in Bolton according to his Wiki page.

So he's based in greater Manchester. Cheers.

Opr

counterlock · 24-09-2012 9:21pm

opr wrote: »

Why is Halsey going to the Greater Manchester police about the twitter problem? Does he live in Manchester?

Opr

Yea he has the curtains and quilt and everything.

Seriously, your reaching.

DARK-KNIGHT · 24-09-2012 9:22pm

opr wrote: »

Why is Halsey going to the Greater Manchester police about the twitter problem? Does he live in Manchester?

Opr

They could have been angry spouse cops maybe he was looking to deal with the superior Manchester police

Sorry stupid really I know!!!

Was bad though someone wishing a horrible death on him tbh

opr · 24-09-2012 9:26pm

counterlock wrote: »

Yea he has the curtains and quilt and everything.

Seriously, your reaching.

Reaching at what? I was just confused as to why it had been reported to the Manchester police. That has been cleared up for me, he happens to live in greater Manchester.

Opr

YouTookMyName · 24-09-2012 9:26pm

Halseys is a good ref and is one of the better ones, just he made a bollix of yesterday.

Fed up seeing Utd players getting penos for dives.

A Dub in Glasgo · 24-09-2012 9:28pm

opr wrote: »

Reaching at what? I was just confused as to why it had been reported to the Manchester police. That has been cleared up for me, he happens to live in greater Manchester.

Opr

Normally a complaint will go to their local police, why would you think this was different?

opr · 24-09-2012 9:30pm

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Normally a complaint will go to their local police, why would you think this was different?

I don't think it should be any different, I wasn't aware that he lives in Manchester. It makes perfect sense now that I know he lives in Manchester why it went to the greater Manchester police. I was just confused when I read the article as to why they were involved.

Opr

The_Kew_Tour · 24-09-2012 9:34pm

That Sterling chap looks to have very bright future. Stood out yesterday even if sometimes his decision making let him down. Young lad.

yabadabado · 24-09-2012 9:36pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

That Sterling chap looks to have very bright future. Stood out yesterday even if sometimes his decision making let him down. Young lad.

He looks a big talent and fair play to Rodgers for giving him his chance.Was there talk last year of him leaving?

Will I Amnt · 24-09-2012 9:40pm

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Halseys is a good ref and is one of the better ones, just he made a bollix of yesterday.

Fed up seeing Utd players getting penos for dives.

I'm fed up seeing players of every team getting penalties for diving.

malcolmplex · 24-09-2012 9:41pm

cambo2008 wrote: »

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Halseys is a good ref and is one of the better ones, just he made a bollix of yesterday.

Fed up seeing Utd players getting penos for dives.

I'm fed up seeing players of every team getting penalties for diving.

I'd say he's fed up of Luis not getting penalties for diving.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-09-2012 9:43pm

United are winning diving competition so far this season.

Was Peno yesterday though.

Chucky the tree · 24-09-2012 9:46pm

niallo27 wrote: »

I doubt either have ever been anywhere near anfield, I dont see why halsey is going to the police about it, im sure he has heard a lot worse down the years. I'm not conding it by the way its just this twitter ****e does my head in.

I'd say there was a bit of pressure put on him from the referees association and the FA possibly.

Helix · 24-09-2012 9:50pm

doesnt actually say it was halsey who went to the police. in his statement he said his family did, so it couldve been one of his kids or his wife who made the complaint

his son, who's a scout for qpr i believe, was getting a fair bit of uncalled for abuse

cournioni · 24-09-2012 9:57pm

On the Shelvey sending off... Swings and roundabouts and all that. Do you remember this challenge only getting a yellow a couple of years ago??

Leiva · 24-09-2012 10:00pm

cournioni wrote: »

On the Shelvey sending off... Swings and roundabouts and all that. Do you remember this challenge only getting a yellow a couple of years ago??
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Suppose.

At least Evans didn't cry like a little bitch :pac:

I like this game.

Copper_pipe · 24-09-2012 10:01pm

Didn't think it was a penalty until I saw this http://twitter.com/TheRealChic1014/status/250338752747143169/photo/1

cournioni · 24-09-2012 10:05pm

Leiva wrote: »

At least Evans didn't cry like a little bitch :pac:

Or like the Liverpool fans since yesterday... :pac:

opr · 24-09-2012 10:07pm

See if you can pick yourself out if you were at the game.

http://liverpool2.tag.huggity.com/app/index.php

Opr

Leiva · 24-09-2012 10:09pm

cournioni wrote: »

Or like the Liverpool fans since yesterday... :pac:

Nah not really . Took a lot of positives out of that match.

Played UTD off the park for long stretches and bossed in many positions against a strong UTD line up, bar maybe Giggs - but I still rate him.

I don't buy the line that UTD were shït. I think Liverpool had control of many aspects of the game and never allowed UTD to get a grasp of things.

But as usual we were absolutely toothless up front and paid for it like many other games over the past year+

counterlock · 24-09-2012 10:19pm

opr wrote: »

See if you can pick yourself out if you were at the game.

http://liverpool2.tag.huggity.com/app/index.php

Opr

When was this taken? There wasn't too many left in the ground after the peno

Will I Amnt · 24-09-2012 10:42pm

Leiva wrote: »

I don't buy the line that UTD were shït. I think Liverpool had control of many aspects of the game and never allowed UTD to get a grasp of things.

Ah come on man. That was appalling stuff from United yesterday. Liverpool were excellent but we just gave the ball away constantly, even when there was an easy pass on.

In all seriousness that was the worst this season and we have had plenty of poor performances. I had resigned to defeat after half an hour until the sending off. Even after that I wasn't sure we would get anything.

mike65 · 24-09-2012 10:45pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/24/halsey-complaint-police-abuse-twitter

citytillidie · 24-09-2012 11:07pm

Leiva wrote: »

Nah not really . Took a lot of positives out of that match.

Played UTD off the park for long stretches and bossed in many positions against a strong UTD line up, bar maybe Giggs - but I still rate him.

I don't buy the line that UTD were shït. I think Liverpool had control of many aspects of the game and never allowed UTD to get a grasp of things.

But as usual we were absolutely toothless up front and paid for it like many other games over the past year+

Its that old chestnut when Liverpool play well they get no credit at all, the other team are always crap or never turned up

citytillidie · 24-09-2012 11:12pm

counterlock wrote: »

When was this taken? There wasn't too many left in the ground after the peno

Was in the 1st half i think you are mistaking the red shirts for seats

If you looked at the picture it was taken on 31:10

Liam O · 24-09-2012 11:13pm

That was United's worst performance of the season and even though Liverpool playing well obviously was a big factor in that, United made it easy for them with sluggish play and over cautious defending. I was astonished at the amount of space they gave up on some occasions.

Chucky the tree · 24-09-2012 11:24pm

United performance was on pay with how they've played all season, difference is they came up against a team who are far better at keeping possession then the ones they've faced so far so they just looked even worse. Uniteds strength is in their home form and taking points off the lower teams. Performance wise I can really see them struggling badly against Arsenal, City and Chelsea but for most other teams they'll have enough.

Morzadec · 25-09-2012 12:08am

While we should be positive about the performance from a Liverpool perspective, we have to acknowledge that United were very poor.

I have to say that was the worst United performance I think I've ever seen. Some of the passing was incredibly sloppy and they looked like they had no guts, second to every ball etc... (with the exception of Rio, Evans and Rafael). The only time I can remember seeing them so dominated was against Barca in the CL final, and we know we're no Barca.

Credit where credit's due, we played very well, executed our game plan well and every player put in a committed performance and played as a team, but we were up against a United team which looked all over the place.

You can't discount that we played well, but you have to put the dominance in the first half and the (at least) holding their own with 10 men, down to United's performance as well as ours.

It's a bit of both.

Morzadec · 25-09-2012 12:10am

Liam O wrote: »

That was United's worst performance of the season and even though Liverpool playing well obviously was a big factor in that, United made it easy for them with sluggish play and over cautious defending. I was astonished at the amount of space they gave up on some occasions.

As a Liverpool fan I can't argue with that.

Fist case of a Liverpool and United fan agreeing on this thread?!?

Blatter · 25-09-2012 12:23am

Chucky the tree wrote: »

United performance was on pay with how they've played all season, difference is they came up against a team who are far better at keeping possession then the ones they've faced so far so they just looked even worse. Uniteds strength is in their home form and taking points off the lower teams. Performance wise I can really see them struggling badly against Arsenal, City and Chelsea but for most other teams they'll have enough.

Nah United were definitely poorer than what they were in previous games. Liverpool were excellent but United's performance was woeful. Why? Probably a combination of poor form, Giggs in CM and 8 of the 10 outfield players having played a Champions League game a few days prior while the majority of the Liverpool first team was well rested.

Liverpool vs Manchester United 23rd September 2012 K/O 1.30 PM (MOD NOTE #1, #254)

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