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Honeywell vs HKC

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  • 17-09-2012 6:04pm
    #1
    colouth
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭


    Hi,
    I spoke with 3 different alarm providers and all 3 indicated they used the HKC securewave system. One indicated that HKC was not as reliable as it use to be and suggested that we install a "honeywell system" as it was more reliable, easier to get parts etc.

    Our House has been pre-wired. We have 9 windows and aside from the Front & Back Door we also have one set of double doors. We have been wired for a number of internal motion sensors too. GSM - SMS alerting would be a requirement. I'd also like to view/set/unset the alarm status from the internet if possible.

    I understand that HKC is the most widely used in Ireland and there seems to be very limited information on Boards about 'Honeywell alarms'.
    Was this a sales and marketing job to get us to buy a "honeywell" and spend 50 euro more?
    What would you recommend for our requirements ?


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    Jnealon
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    Which Honeywell panel was specified in the quote


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    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭altor


    colouth wrote: »
    Hi,
    I spoke with 3 different alarm providers and all 3 indicated they used the HKC securewave system. One indicated that HKC was not as reliable as it use to be and suggested that we install a "honeywell system" as it was more reliable, easier to get parts etc.

    Dont think he knows what he is talking about re the HKC..
    Parts not available :confused:

    www.altor.ie



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    KoolKid
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    For the internet access the Siemens 4320 or 5320 may suit you better.
    Some links & information in this thread
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056676093


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    Thunderbird2
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    Sounds familiar .! Did he mention anything regarding HKCs keypad , not to use shock sensors?
    HKC securewave or Siemens would be the ones to have a look at .. The main difference is the remote access on the Siemens system but HKC are due to release this feature shortly !! :-)


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    colouth
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭colouth


    Thanks everyone for the prompt and helpful responses. I was trying to find out which "honeywell system" was being recommended. Haven't got that information yet.

    Sounds like the Siemens is the only one at present that will meet all my requirements (remote internet access) until HKC bring out there system. Is that right?

    Could any of you give an approximate cost for the above system ?


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    KoolKid
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    The Siemens SPC 4320 with keypad is around €250-€300


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    Thunderbird2
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    HKC will be releasing the new gear in October


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    KoolKid
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    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    HKC will be releasing the new gear in October

    I'm still waiting on confirmation on this. It appears HKC have opted for radio silence. From previous experience that never a good sign. Their IP is still a longer way off I'd say.


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    Thunderbird2
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    Hopefully it won't take too long


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    altor
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    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    Hopefully it won't take too long

    Its on test a good while now. The app will be next year.

    www.altor.ie



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    Thunderbird2
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    Wonder will it work or a wifi connection


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    KoolKid
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    altor wrote: »
    Its on test a good while now. The app will be next year.

    Can we expect a working IP panel before the app??:confused:


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    Thunderbird2
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    I'd say so .. The app will more then likely come shortly afterwards


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    KoolKid
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    Just wondering what next year means?
    If its Jan/feb for an app we really should be hearing about the panels now...:confused:
    Then again , from experience, HKCs dates are usually + a few months.


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    Thunderbird2
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    Even so .. They'll be we'll worth the wait .. Can't wait to swap mine out


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    KoolKid
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    If it comes up to the Siemens standard . If it ends up like Aritech's it will be a big anti-climax.


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    Thunderbird2
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    I'd say it will be well up to the standards of the Siemens if not better since its newer


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    KoolKid
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    Thunderbird2 wrote: »
    I'd say it will be well up to the standards of the Siemens if not better since its newer

    That doesn't equate. Its the R & D resources that go into it.
    For example compare Smartlink to SPC Pro...
    Aritech was to be newer & better & that was quite a let down.

    What do you call newer ?the software or the hardware.?


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    Thunderbird2
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    Newer software = better security

    Or it could be equal to Siemens


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    KoolKid
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    If you going by software then Siemens release updates every few months,.
    SPC is improving security & features all the time/
    Look up on mapping gates & all ok zones. 2 features I love.


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    altor
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    KoolKid wrote: »
    Can we expect a working IP panel before the app??:confused:

    Yes we can. It can be remotely accessed over the browser of any phone until the release of the app.

    www.altor.ie



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    KoolKid
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    So have we a date or expected time frame?
    Unfortunately we are not getting any info from HKC here of late.


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    altor
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    October was the date I was told and the app next year.
    HKC wont release it unless they are happy with it.
    Looking good from all accounts..

    www.altor.ie



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    KoolKid
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    Wait & see I suppose...
    Their consistent, Ill give them that..;)


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    #26
    altor
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    That is all we can do...

    www.altor.ie



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