Analog tv switch off

Phat Willie

Irish people are as thick as shít when it comes to the analogue tv switch off in 5 weeks time. People are thinking that they will be able to get sky channels on saorview, others who have upc are thinking they need a saorview box too to keep getting upc.

TheBody

Phat Willie wrote: »

People are as thick as shít when it comes to everything!!

FYP

Tombi!

So you come on Ireland's biggest forum, on the most active forum on the site and call Irish people thick as shít?

I don't think we're all as thick as you think.

Dravokivich

I don't know anyone who's been confused by it...

Lando Griffin

Phat Willie wrote: »

Irish people are as thick as shít when it comes to the analogue tv switch off in 5 weeks time. People are thinking that they will be able to get sky channels on saorview, others who have upc are thinking they need a saorview box too to keep getting upc.

Can you supply a link to justify your outrageous reckonings?

Grimebox

I have no idea what you are talking about to be honest

justsomebloke

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I don't think we're all as thick as you think.

In all fairness how long have the Irish people kept Joe Duffy in a job, so he can't be too far of the mark

gobnaitolunacy

I think it's pretty clear what's gonna happen.

BTW the uk's version of the digital box is only around £14-£20 while our Sh*tview box starts at €60. Rip off as per usual.

Rabidlamb

Dravokivich wrote: »

I don't know anyone who's been confused by it...

We move in different circles my friend.
My whole estate think I'm the go to man as I sorted many FTA boxes over the years as people cancelled Sky.
Once I tell them they'll need an ariel & a new box for Saorview they act as if I'd just boned their cat.
It seems to be my fault all of a sudden.

Tombi!

justsomebloke wrote: »

In all fairness how long have the Irish people kept Joe Duffy in a job, so he can't be too far of the mark

I wonder if that'd be a good topic...
"Joe, I'm calling about this place called boards.ie and in it, sometimes people say hurtful things"
"Like what kind of things?"
"Ah well I can't be repeating them cause this is in the middle of the day but it's horrifying when you hear it"
"Ah it's a disgrace".

I know what I'm doing in the morning. :pac:

Optimalprimerib

In before someone says I don't watch tv. You high and mighty bastard

Phat Willie

Phat Willie wrote: »

others who have upc are thinking they need a saorview box too to keep getting upc.

I had some UPC and SKY salesmen at the door trying to tell me exactly that.

I called them on their BS but I wonder how many grannies etc they scammed.

ejmaztec

This wouldn't be the first thread started by a phat willie.

starbelgrade

Meh - it's ages away yet. I'll sort it out in October.

Biggins

People are not told clearly that the Saorview box does NOT allow British stations to be accessed when the ads run on TV.

All the RTE adverts conveniently forget to mention this for obvious reason.

Your stuck with what I consider to be sh*t RTE.

You can get instead a multi-view system for this ability.

Kurz

Deleted User wrote: »

I had some UPC and SKY salesmen at the door trying to tell me exactly that.

I heard George Hook on the radio the other week and his understanding (which he was putting forward as the actual scenario) was that if you get Saorview, you'll get all the UK channels. If you don't get Saorview, your Sky and UPC will stop working.

starbelgrade

I'm really not looking forward to seeing Eamon Dunphy's face in High Definition.

Biggins

Kurz wrote: »

I heard George Hook on the radio the other week and his understanding (which he was putting forward as the actual scenario) was that if you get Saorview, you'll get all the UK channels. If you don't get Saorview, your Sky and UPC will stop working.

He's an uneducated idiot in this matter: http://www.saorview.ie/help-support/faqs/saorview-channels/

What channels do I get on SAORVIEW?
TV Channels: RTÉ One, RTÉ Two HD, TV3, TG4, RTÉ News Now, 3e, RTÉjr, RTÉ One+1
Radio Stations: RTÉ Radio 1, RTÉ 2fm, RTÉ lyric fm, RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta, RTÉ Choice,
RTÉ Pulse, RTÉ 2XM, RTÉ Gold, RTÉjr, Radio 1 Extra

What if I want more than just Irish channels?
It is possible to combine SAORVIEW with free-to-air satellite services or other Pay TV services to give you a broader range of channels and services. If you are interested in combining SAORVIEW with other services we suggest you seek advice from specialist retailers or competent local TV installers.

NOTE: ITS NOT MENTIONED THAT MULTI-VIEW SYSTEMS ARE ALSO AVAILABLE - NO, THEY WOULD RATHER PUT OUT A 'PICTURE' THAT ITS JUST MORE HASSLE WITH HAVING TO BUY/GET AND THEN COMBINE BOXES.

Why are the Irish channels not available on the free-to-air satellite?

The channels couldn’t be made available on the Astra 28 satellite as this satellite has a broadcast footprint considerably beyond Ireland (all of UK, parts of Europe). Had these channels been on this platform it would therefore have put Irish broadcasters in breach of copyright and broadcast license agreements and resulted in increased costs for acquired programmes and home produced programmes. The Irish channels (with the exception of TV3) are available via satellite on SAORSAT.

gobnaitolunacy

Kurz wrote: »

I heard George Hook on the radio the other week and his understanding (which he was putting forward as the actual scenario) was that if you get Saorview, you'll get all the UK channels. If you don't get Saorview, your Sky and UPC will stop working.

Sure that gobdaw thinks his Sony Vaio is compatable with his collection of 78 rpm records. God knows what he has a technology slot for.

Kurz

Biggins wrote: »

He's an uneducated idiot in this matter:

Yeah I know. It's just a perfect example of the over-complication and stupidity around the whole matter.

M cebee

thanks op

just got it figured there thanks to you-all channels working now

maybe this should be a sticky(for thickies)

seamus

Biggins wrote: »

People are not told clearly that the Saorview box does NOT allow British stations to be accessed when the ads run on TV.

All the RTE adverts conveniently forget to mention this for obvious reason.

Forget to mention what?

You can't get british stations OTA as it is. Why would they mention that you will continue to be unable to get British stations OTA?

Though I agree that the entire campaign hasn't been as clear as it need to be.

Every ad should open with, "Soarview does not affect you unless you use an aerial to receive TV".

Practically every non-technical person I know has had to ask me to clarify whether they're going to be affected by it. The answer is usually "No".

Biggins

seamus wrote: »

Forget to mention what?

You can't get british stations OTA as it is. Why would they mention that you will continue to be unable to get British stations OTA?

Though I agree that the entire campaign hasn't been as clear as it need to be.

Every ad should open with, "Soarview does not affect you unless you use an aerial to receive TV".

Practically every non-technical person I know has had to ask me to clarify whether they're going to be affected by it. The answer is usually "No".

The Soarview adverts on TV should say they receive Irish based stations only.

Quorum

Dravokivich wrote: »

I don't know anyone who's been confused by it...

People are only confused about until it they read up on it. Then they're not confused anymore. Except the pig thick ones of course.

Plazaman

And it's a well known fact that because the Saorview boxes are made in the UK, you will not be allowed to use Barrys or Lyons Teabags when making your cuppa during an ad break, but will in fact have to use Punjana's or Tetley's.

Well known fact.

working fool

Im close enough to the boarder reigon
Surely the uk stations have to cover northern Ireland so it's possible to use their digital box to pick up their stations
I've absolutely no interest in rte etc
Might give that a shot

baalthor

Biggins wrote: »

seamus wrote: »

Forget to mention what?

You can't get british stations OTA as it is. Why would they mention that you will continue to be unable to get British stations OTA?

Though I agree that the entire campaign hasn't been as clear as it need to be.

Every ad should open with, "Soarview does not affect you unless you use an aerial to receive TV".

Practically every non-technical person I know has had to ask me to clarify whether they're going to be affected by it. The answer is usually "No".

The Soarview adverts on TV should say they receive Irish based stations only.

That's not true though. If you live near the border for example, you can pick up the UK digital stations on the saorview boxes/TVs.

token101

Deleted User wrote: »

I had some UPC and SKY salesmen at the door trying to tell me exactly that.

I called them on their BS but I wonder how many grannies etc they scammed.

No you didn't FFS.

B.A._Baracus

Biggins wrote: »

The Soarview adverts on TV should say they receive Irish based stations only.

They really should. If not in their tv adverts at least on their website.

Sure, there is already confusion between freesat and free to air as it is :P

Seve OB

Rabidlamb wrote: »

We move in different circles my friend.
My whole estate think I'm the go to man as I sorted many FTA boxes over the years as people cancelled Sky.
Once I tell them they'll need an ariel & a new box for Saorview they act as if I'd just boned their cat.
It seems to be my fault all of a sudden.

Not much of a go to man really if you made them all get new boxes. All they needed to do was cancel sky, and their boxes would still pick up all the FTA channels. Works with the card in or out but will result in different channel EPG.

Most of them probably already have aerials already so they most likely will not need a new one! Better, let go of that cat now

Kurz wrote: »

I heard George Hook on the radio the other week and his understanding (which he was putting forward as the actual scenario) was that if you get Saorview, you'll get all the UK channels. If you don't get Saorview, your Sky and UPC will stop working.

In fairness to him, and I heard the piece he did, he was outlining all sorts of different scenarios and for the techy guy to answer. He was asking the questions a lot of uneducated people might have been asking in order to get the answers

token101

token101 wrote: »

No you didn't FFS.

Yes I did.

mike65

I reckon there will be an explosion of "its an outrage, Joe" calls the day this happens and the day after. The publicity campaign has been pretty much a textbook of what not to do.

Capt'n Midnight

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

I think it's pretty clear what's gonna happen.

BTW the uk's version of the digital box is only around £14-£20 while our Sh*tview box starts at €60. Rip off as per usual.

Our boxes are HD.


Anyway this doesn't affect people with UPC or SKY contracts.

Biggins

baalthor wrote: »

That's not true though. If you live near the border for example, you can pick up the UK digital stations on the saorview boxes/TVs.

The vast bulk of the rest of the country though, that is being broadcasted to with these adverts?
What about them!

Meesared

Yep Freeview HD boxes are a similar price to our Saorview boxes, its better to be future proofed.

Lord TSC

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Anyway this doesn't affect people with UPC or SKY contracts.

I worry it affects me. Actually, maybe someone can help here?

Will I need a Soarview box for every TV in the house? We've got four TVs, but the Sky box only on one. Obviously we all can watch different normal channels so saying "Use your Sky box" only works for one person at a time. :pac:

And given we watch the BBCs and that FAAAAR more than RTE, we're hugely annoyed at this whole "you won't get the Brit channels anymore..."

PogMoThoin

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I worry it affects me. Actually, maybe someone can help here?

Will I need a Soarview box for every TV in the house? We've got four TVs, but the Sky box only on one. Obviously we all can watch different normal channels so saying "Use your Sky box" only works for one person at a time. :pac:

And given we watch the BBCs and that FAAAAR more than RTE, we're hugely annoyed at this whole "you won't get the Brit channels anymore..."

Yes, you will need a box for each TV or Saorview compatible TVs. BBC's will only be available with a satellite box (unless you liv close to the border), so it may be best get a Combo box that does Saorview and Free to air satellite

Guy:Incognito

Deleted User wrote: »

I had some UPC and SKY salesmen at the door trying to tell me exactly that.

I called them on their BS but I wonder how many grannies etc they scammed.

Why would a UPC or Sky rep benefit from someone buying a Saorview box?

Hal Decks

There are some incredibly idiotic responses and some clueless posters in this thread.
1. If you have an analogue TV, you will need a digital receiver after the switch over date, one per TV.
2. SAORVIEW is the Irish version of FREEVIEW. It is responsible for Irish TV signals, only. Why should they care about UK signals?
3. You will lose UK signals at the same time, because the UK is also switching to digital, nothing to do with SAORVIEW.
4. Depending on the digital receiver you get, you may get both UK & ROI stations. There is no obligation on any receiver manufacturer to produce a box that will do both. The quality of your aerial and the signal it receives will also determine what you can receive.

kneemos

So when I cancel my Sky I'll need a new dish to pick up my FTA and a new digital telly to watch Saorview?

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why would a UPC or Sky rep benefit from someone buying a Saorview box?

At the time they tried to insist that my UPC cable service (analogue) wouldn't work after the terrestrial changeover, so I should get whatever package they were peddling.

Lord TSC

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yes, you will need a box for each TV or Saorview compatible TVs.

In other words, we're about to have three lovely expensive paperweights :rolleyes: No way can I afford a box per TV. Can barely afford the one. And given the useless channels it provides, I likely won't even bother with that one.

holidaysong

kneemos wrote: »

So when I cancel my Sky I'll need a new dish to pick up my FTA and a new digital telly to watch Saorview?

Your Sky box will still pick up the UK channels FTA from your dish.

However, you would need an aerial and Saorview box / TV for Irish channels as these are not FTA on the same satellite used for Sky channels.

Guy:Incognito

Deleted User wrote: »

At the time they tried to insist that my UPC cable service (analogue) wouldn't work after the terrestrial changeover, so I should get whatever package they were peddling.

Thats not what you said though. Another poster said people thought they'd have to get a Soarview box to keep recievign their sky or upc. To which you replied that was exactly what the reps told you.

kowloon

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

In before someone says I don't watch tv. You high and mighty bastard

I don't watch it, I experience it in crystal clear high definition.

Capt'n Midnight

kneemos wrote: »

So when I cancel my Sky I'll need a new dish to pick up my FTA and a new digital telly to watch Saorview?

To pick up FTA channels you just need to remove the SKY card. No need to do anything with the dish.

You can use a set top box ~€45 with your existing TV aerial and old telly.

Capt'n Midnight

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I worry it affects me. Actually, maybe someone can help here?

If you are with UPC then you need to do nothing.

At present if you get UPC broadband you end up getting basic TV too. With 3 TV's it might be worth looking at - ( do you still get the €50 DID voucher on bargain alerts ? - so might get a set top box out of it too )

Will I need a Soarview box for every TV in the house? We've got four TVs,

4 old TV's.
anything bought recently should be saorview compatible - otherwise it's a monitor and not a TV by definition.

you can use video senders - ~€25 vs. ~€45 for a saorview box so not really worth the hassle
unless the number of TV's outweighs the number of viewers.

another option is spend a little more and get a PVR for the saorview box so you can watch later until you get more boxes or replace TVs


Expect the price of the saorview boxes to drop a little over time too.

but the Sky box only on one. Obviously we all can watch different normal channels so saying "Use your Sky box" only works for one person at a time. :pac:

And given we watch the BBCs and that FAAAAR more than RTE, we're hugely annoyed at this whole "you won't get the Brit channels anymore..."

This bit got me confused , you watch UK TV most , but only one TV can get it ?

how did you get reception for the other 3 boxes ?


There are other options - if any of the TV's take a computer input then you could stream RTE if you don't mind the lower quality.

Pompey Magnus

Biggins wrote: »

baalthor wrote: »

That's not true though. If you live near the border for example, you can pick up the UK digital stations on the saorview boxes/TVs.

The vast bulk of the rest of the country though, that is being broadcasted to with these adverts?
What about them!

I picked up a saorview box a few weeks ago and can pick up all the Uk digital stations and I am in Westmeath so nowhere near the border. I was pleasantly surprised when it starting tuning them in as the salesman told me it would only give the Irish stations.

PogMoThoin

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

In other words, we're about to have three lovely expensive paperweights :rolleyes: No way can I afford a box per TV. Can barely afford the one. And given the useless channels it provides, I likely won't even bother with that one.

How old are the TV's? Any TV that's about 10 years old and 4:3, not 16:9 widescreen is not worth buying a box for IMO. If it's a new flatscreen it's worth buying a box for, you'll find them for around €45-50 in Lidl.

Lord TSC

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

If you are with UPC then you need to do nothing.

At present if you get UPC broadband you end up getting basic TV too. With 3 TV's it might be worth looking at - ( do you still get the €50 DID voucher on bargain alerts ? - so might get a set top box out of it too )

Not with UPC. Eircom for the auld Broadband.

4 old TV's.
anything bought recently should be saorview compatible - otherwise it's a monitor and not a TV by definition.

you can use video senders - ~€25 vs. ~€45 for a saorview box so not really worth the hassle
unless the number of TV's outweighs the number of viewers.

Is there anywhere I can see if the TV is compatible? And if it is, what do I need to do then? On the day of the switch over, do the channels continue as normal?

This bit got me confused , you watch UK TV most , but only one TV can get it ?

how did you get reception for the other 3 boxes ?

BBC 1 & 2, ITV and C4 are on all the TVs in the house. Always have been. Don't need Sky or anything for the channels; Just tuned them in the same as I tuned in the RTEs when I got the TVs.

How old are the TV's? Any TV that's about 10 years old and 4:3, not 16:9 widescreen is not worth buying a box for IMO. If it's a new flatscreen it's worth buying a box for, you'll find them for around €45-50 in Lidl.

Older flat screens, I'd say all about 4 years old.

smash

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Is there anywhere I can see if the TV is compatible? And if it is, what do I need to do then? On the day of the switch over, do the channels continue as normal?

Any TV or box that isn't compatible will display a count down on the bottom right hand corner of the screen. If you're watching RTE and don't see this then you're ok.