How to solve recession - Remove female soldiers knickers!

Mouldy Mary

This is how the economic problems facing the country are to be solved. Take 50 cent a week from a few dozen girls in the forces. You would think our politicians have more on their minds (do they have any?) than a few pairs of knickers. How many of them go into Leinster House with no underwear?
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0919/1224324160465.html

smash

€27.40 a year is nothing compared to some of the other allowances on that list. "annual allowances of €6,412 and €4,833, depending on rank, for officers trained in health and safety"... Jesus.

Neewbie_noob

Why do the wimminz get an underwear allowance ?? Men wear underwear (well, boxers) too ... Do we not get a boxer allowance or are we supposed to wear the same smelly pair for a year?

smash

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

Why do the wimminz get an underwear allowance ?? Men wear underwear (well, boxers) too ... Do we not get a boxer allowance or are we supposed to wear the same smelly pair for a year?

Maybe it's for the likes of Sports bras to stop injury during training?

Neewbie_noob

smash wrote: »

Maybe it's for the likes of Sports bras to stop injury during training?

ahhh well that answers my question

Duckworth_Luas

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

Men wear underwear (well, boxers) too ...

Not the commando unit!

markpb

Mouldy Mary wrote: »

This is how the economic problems facing the country are to be solved.

It is actually. Good economic discipline is essential whether its for large or tiny sums of money. People laughed at Ryanair when they banned staff from charging their phones in the office but it's indicative of a larger effort at reducing costs. On the other hand, the Irish government has pool financial controls and pays people allowances for silly things.

The old phrase: look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves is as true for governments as it is for people.

OU812

So they're gonna try take a pittance off the people with guns?

Nice one lads. Clever move.

An Coilean

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

Why do the wimminz get an underwear allowance ?? Men wear underwear (well, boxers) too ... Do we not get a boxer allowance or are we supposed to wear the same smelly pair for a year?

Men were always in the Army, and get issued boxers as well as everything else they were supposed to wear while on duity, when wimminz were allowed in it was cheaper to give them an alowance to buy their own undies than for the QM to aquire and stock every size for them.
A7 is bad enough without Quatermasters being expected to fit female soldiers with Green Bras.

super_furry

Why should anyone be paid to buy underwear?

Hersheys

super_furry wrote: »

Why should anyone be paid to buy underwear?

As mentioned above, sports bras would be considered PPE!

davet82

super_furry wrote: »

Why should anyone be paid to buy underwear?

Kelly Brook

smash

davet82 wrote: »

Kelly Brook

She's paid to remove hers!

davet82

smash wrote: »

She's paid to remove hers!

sometimes...

lets just talk about Kelly Brook anyways

smash

davet82 wrote: »

sometimes...

lets just talk about Kelly Brook anyways

Can a mod change the thread title please...

3ndahalfof6

Reminds me of this, http://www.independent.ie/national-news/no-sparing-berties-blusher-in-makeup-budget-253885.html

beggars belief, does anyone know if they still get it.

efb

AH still as classy as ever

ahnowbrowncow

efb wrote: »

AH still as classy as ever

Boo hoo

My name is URL

Don't special branch and plain clothes Gardai get a clothing allowance too? Never really understood that one... If it was for uniforms then fair enough, but why an allowance for normal clothes? If it were stopped are a load of lads gonna turn up to work bollock naked?

DEFTLEFTHAND

How about we get rid of our army. Radical cost cutting measures and all suggest something might have to go, let the Air Corps off with it. We can keep the Navy though.;)

Feeona

I think this is all just a cunning plan devised by General NoKnickers McO'Knickers.

Durty fecker.

smash

efb wrote: »

AH still as classy as ever

ooooh, well lets talk about everything that YOU want to talk about! :pac:

davet82

efb wrote: »

AH still as classy as ever

tis....

tis indeed :cool:

Local-womanizer

My name is URL wrote: »

Don't special branch and plain clothes Gardai get a clothing allowance too? Never really understood that one... If it was for uniforms then fair enough, but why an allowance for normal clothes? If it were stopped are a load of lads gonna turn up to work bollock naked?

Well I think this makes sense, they are required to do heavy work in plain clothes. The clothes would put up with a lot of abuse in the course of duty.

It basically is a uniform to them.

Even in my job, if our own clothes get damage we are compensated for it.

hardCopy

My name is URL wrote: »

Don't special branch and plain clothes Gardai get a clothing allowance too? Never really understood that one... If it was for uniforms then fair enough, but why an allowance for normal clothes? If it were stopped are a load of lads gonna turn up to work bollock naked?

This also applies to office based gardai in HQ, anyone getting a promotion there is now expected to switch back to uniform. Apparently the allowance costs more than the uniform.

ilovesleep

An underwear allowance???

I see it's only being abolished for new entrants. What about those who are already there? Surely more of a saving will be made going after all instead of new entrants.

I see from the irish times piece 10 out of 63 allowances are up for scrapping. Why not all of them.

What other hidden allowances are there?
A bloody fanny pad allowance?

ilovesleep

I'm actually getting my knickers in a twist over this. Why can't they buy their own knickers?

smash

ilovesleep wrote: »

I'm actually getting my knickers in a twist over this. Why can't they buy their own knickers?

I thought you were bloke?

Gummy Panda

ilovesleep wrote: »

I'm actually getting my knickers in a twist over this. Why can't they buy their own knickers?

The army uniform consists of underwear as well. As said, its easier to offer an allowance then stock the required sizes in bulk

John Mongo

An Coilean wrote: »

Men were always in the Army, and get issued boxers as well as everything else they were supposed to wear while on duity, when wimminz were allowed in it was cheaper to give them an alowance to buy their own undies than for the QM to aquire and stock every size for them.
A7 is bad enough without Quatermasters being expected to fit female soldiers with Green Bras.

Male soldiers do not get issued boxers.

ilovesleep

Hersheys wrote: »

As mentioned above, sports bras would be considered PPE!

Can they not buy their own bras out from their own wage?

Gummy Panda

John Mongo wrote: »

An Coilean wrote: »

Men were always in the Army, and get issued boxers as well as everything else they were supposed to wear while on duity, when wimminz were allowed in it was cheaper to give them an alowance to buy their own undies than for the QM to aquire and stock every size for them.
A7 is bad enough without Quatermasters being expected to fit female soldiers with Green Bras.

Male soldiers do not get issued boxers.

They use to at one stage. I worked with the woman who husband was army. She said he was issued green boxers as well.

Now this was during the boom

ahnowbrowncow

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Now this was during the boom

Boom time in the army? Sounds dangerous

ilovesleep

Gummy Panda wrote: »

They use to at one stage. I worked with the woman who husband was army. She said he was issued green boxers as well.

Now this was during the boom

Is their own underwear not good enough for the army?

Local-womanizer

Gummy Panda wrote: »

John Mongo wrote: »

An Coilean wrote: »

Men were always in the Army, and get issued boxers as well as everything else they were supposed to wear while on duity, when wimminz were allowed in it was cheaper to give them an alowance to buy their own undies than for the QM to aquire and stock every size for them.
A7 is bad enough without Quatermasters being expected to fit female soldiers with Green Bras.

Male soldiers do not get issued boxers.

They use to at one stage. I worked with the woman who husband was army. She said he was issued green boxers as well.

Now this was during the boom

Dont think it was boxers, it was dri flow underwear, for when out in the ground

John Mongo

Gummy Panda wrote: »

They use to at one stage. I worked with the woman who husband was army. She said he was issued green boxers as well.

Now this was during the boom

Well they're certainly not on issue now.

She could have been talking about DriFlo thermal shorts that are on issue. There is no underwear on issue.

ilovesleep

ilovesleep wrote: »

A bloody fanny pad allowance?

Nice choice of curse words there.

ilovesleep

smash wrote: »

I thought you were bloke?

Not a bloke

minidazzler

ilovesleep wrote: »

I'm actually getting my knickers in a twist over this. Why can't they buy their own knickers?

All kit worn by DF members is issued, men get issued dri-flo underwear, but since there are far more men it's easy to stock enough in each size.

For women to stock the underwear would not be as cost effective as issuing an allowance because you'd have to get lots of underwear in lots of different sizes which has no cost saving benefit, especially since women's tit size can change at different times of the month.

John Mongo

minidazzler wrote: »

All kit worn by DF members is issued, men get issued dri-flo underwear, but since there are far more men it's easy to stock enough in each size.

For women to stock the underwear would not be as cost effective as issuing an allowance because you'd have to get lots of underwear in lots of different sizes which has no cost saving benefit, especially since women's tit size can change at different times of the month.

The DriFlo shorts are not underwear.

ilovesleep

minidazzler wrote: »

All kit worn by DF members is issued, men get issued dri-flo underwear, but since there are far more men it's easy to stock enough in each size.

For women to stock the underwear would not be as cost effective as issuing an allowance because you'd have to get lots of underwear in lots of different sizes which has no cost saving benefit, especially since women's tit size can change at different times of the month.

Ok that makes sense.

But there are many professions and underwear is not supplied. We wear our own underpants. Change them daily into clean.ones and that's that. So why is underwear supplied in the defense forces?

syklops

minidazzler wrote: »

All kit worn by DF members is issued, men get issued dri-flo underwear, but since there are far more men it's easy to stock enough in each size.

For women to stock the underwear would not be as cost effective as issuing an allowance because you'd have to get lots of underwear in lots of different sizes which has no cost saving benefit, especially since women's tit size can change at different times of the month.

You're not allowed allow facts or good sense get in the way of a good moan-fest, here in AH. Don't you know that??

I have to laugh(or else Id cry) on the same day that the opposition lambast the government for not making enough cuts, the ASTI lambast the government for making too many cuts in education, the OP starts this thread.

They literally can't win.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

The DF previously issued briefs to male soldiers. That stopped at some stage. I am in since '99 and have never been issued a pair. The closest thing to underwear I have been issued is "Long John" thermals or DryFlo shorts.

As stated above, "knicker allowance" is cheaper than to stock various sizes of female underwear.

They do it because it is cheaper.

John Mongo

ilovesleep wrote: »

Ok that makes sense.

But there are many professions and underwear is not supplied. We wear our own underpants. Change them daily into clean.ones and that's that. So why is underwear supplied in the defense forces?

IT'S NOT!

DriFlo shorts are thermal shorts worn while out on Exercise. They are not everday underwear. Both men and women serving in the Defence Forces are issued DriFlo shorts.

So I dunno why people are using them as an excuse for female members recieving an underwear allowance. Women are already issued DriFlo shorts, just as the men are.

Biggins

smash wrote: »

Maybe it's for the likes of Sports bras to stop injury during training?

I'd like to offer my support to these women.
I'm a hands-on person.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

ilovesleep wrote: »

Ok that makes sense.

But there are many professions and underwear is not supplied. We wear our own underpants. Change them daily into clean.ones and that's that. So why is underwear supplied in the defense forces?

The DF issues every soldier a uniform. It is part of the uniform. It's as simple as that.

Its for uniformity..obviously and takes away "individuality" to a soldier. It helps mould people easier.

syklops

ilovesleep wrote: »

Ok that makes sense.

But there are many professions and underwear is not supplied. We wear our own underpants. Change them daily into clean.ones and that's that. So why is underwear supplied in the defense forces?

When was the last time you had to wade through a river waist deep as part of your job?

rab!dmonkey

My name is URL wrote: »

Don't special branch and plain clothes Gardai get a clothing allowance too? Never really understood that one... If it was for uniforms then fair enough, but why an allowance for normal clothes? If it were stopped are a load of lads gonna turn up to work bollock naked?

I don't think the business of physically apprehending criminals is kind on clothes.

limklad

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

How about we get rid of our army. Radical cost cutting measures and all suggest something might have to go, let the Air Corps off with it. We can keep the Navy though.;)

Aren't The EU paying for our Navy to patrol the fisheries?

Milk & Honey

Tights are part of the uniform of females in the defence forces. The expense of providing themselves with tights is not one men have to pay for, so in order to have equal pay the females were compensated with an allowance.

Fromthetrees

Something about Father Jack saying a pair of feckin'...