The General Hip-Hop/Off-Topic Discussion Thread

Rjd2

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Out of interest, what other music do people listen to? Any particular favourite musicans outside of the hip hop genre?

I like lots like everyone here, stuff like Arcade Fire, Interpol, some Dance music like Boards of Canada, The Field, Gui Boratto and also I like really good pop music. Stuff from Robyn, Kimbra to name a few.

Jimmy Iovine

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Gutted with the hurling still the craic was had!

It wasn't the greatest match but I'll take any win. Can't be too picky, especially after the classic from three weeks ago.

I celebrated the win by playing a pretty wild game of pictionary with a few friends. Some game so it is. I also finished off a few crosswords too. I became very competitive after all the hurling I think :P.

Mr. Rager

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

It wasn't the greatest match but I'll take any win. Can't be too picky, especially after the classic from three weeks ago.

I celebrated the win by playing a pretty wild game of pictionary with a few friends. Some game so it is. I also finished off a few crosswords too. I became very competitive after all the hurling I think :P.

Ye must be used to it now, we'd die for just one win! Next year I guess, who knows?

Part in bold reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBTKIFPKM4

Jimmy Iovine

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Ye must be used to it now, we'd die for just one win! Next year I guess, who knows?

Part in bold reminds me of this:

We are and we aren't. The build up to the matches is pretty much over-looked now. I remember back in '98 we had a march through KK city in support of the team. You'd barely find a few flags around the place now.

Once the match starts then it's just like being in the first final all over again. Nervous as anything and just wanting to win.

Haha we actually sang the proper Countdown music to annoy the girls on the other team :P.

Da Shins Kelly

Felt sorry for Galway. I think the draw was their best chance though, couldn't see them getting another chance like that to beat Kilkenny. Wish it could have been at least a closer match.

Bobby Baccala

I'd join in on your discussion but i know fúck all about GAA, more of a boxing fan, speaking of boxing this lad always has the finest hip hop in his highlight videos.

This is a personal favourite of his videos, Riddick Bowe who just happens to be one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, Cuttin headz by ODB and Dirty Rotten scoundrels by Jeru, animal video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kim2nTQI13E

Jimmy Iovine

I had a pretty mad idea the other day about teaching a class to write a rap song. It all depends on what class I have on my teaching practice. I'll either have year 4 (3rd class) or year 6 (5th class). It'll also depend on what they are doing in the class and if there is enough room to manoeuvre within the set themes for the year.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to do it. If I did then it'd be brilliant. It covers English and music in one and then brings in other requirements of the Welsh curriculum that you need to have in every lesson.

If I do it I'd probably have them write their own poems that would be turned into raps. Then a few of the children will get to perform their masterpieces. The rest of the class will provide some backing tracks for them. Hopefully I'll then be able to record all of it and we'll have one big long song with about 5/6 'verses' on it.

My question for everyone on here is does anyone know of any child friendly rap songs?

I'd be using these as an example at the start of the lesson. Almost all of the kids would know about rap songs from hearing the likes of Eminem (:)), Nicki Minge (:() or Drake (:() on the radio. Obviously I couldn't use any of their songs. Can't use any of the songs on my iPod either.

I only know of one song that is aimed at children, "Rat Rapping" by Roland Rat. It's actually pretty good. Very ahead of it's time as well. It was released way back in 1983.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcQzDuPuRA4

So is anyone able to help me out?

And no mentions of the Wu Tang Clan please. I know Wu Tang is for the children but they're not quite what I'm looking for :P.

Bobby Baccala

Will Smith

Andy_rse

It might be a bit too aimed at children, but something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzgD99iyUTU

Or what about I Can by Nas

Jimmy Iovine

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Will Smith

Good shout. I'll have to have a look through his albums and find something suitable.

Andy_rse wrote: »

It might be a bit too aimed at children, but something like this?

That's exactly what I'm looking for. How did you manage to find that?

Basically, I'm just looking for a few simple songs that have topics that children might be able to relate to. A rapping giraffe is funny and the song rhymes.

Andy_rse wrote: »

Or what about I Can by Nas

I'd love to be able to include some Nas but there are a few dodge lines in there. The last thing I want is children going home and telling their parents they heard HIV mentioned in a song in school :pac:.

I think I might have found the perfect 'classic' song to play for them. "I Know You Got Soul" by Eric B. and Rakim. There isn't a single curse in it and he's talking about something simple enough, soul.

"I Ain't No Joke" is the exact same. If I get a chance to do this then these kids will know more about rap than almost everyone that I know :pac:.

Just remembered there that I could play them some music by my man Emcee Jermaine.

There is some unbelievable word play and rhymes in all of those songs. We could spend ages dissecting them.

floggg

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Andy_rse wrote: »

Or what about I Can by Nas

I'd love to be able to include some Nas but there are a few dodge lines in there. The last thing I want is children going home and telling their parents they heard HIV mentioned in a song in school :pac:.

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Sad reflection on the world when patents would get pissed off with a teacher for letting their kids know what HIV is!

Fresh Prince of Bel Air would be a good one to play them. You could show them the opening credits on YouTube as well.

Jimmy Iovine

floggg wrote: »

Sad reflection on the world when patents would get pissed off with a teacher for letting their kids know what HIV is!

Fresh Prince of Bel Air would be a good one to play them. You could show them the opening credits on YouTube as well.

Well it's more because I want to avoid any controversy than the parent's fault to be honest. For the year that I'm in college and being assessed, if I can avoid anything that is even a little out there then I'll be doing well.

Obviously there's a time and place for learning about HIV and other things like that but a music/English lesson from a trainee teacher isn't one of them I don't think :P. I'll let their class teacher deal with that for now.

The Fresh Prince is a very good one. The credits are very good as well. Thanks.

Keep them coming .

Da Shins Kelly

Yeah, I recall a few people in the music class when I was in school coming up with a rap to the tune of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. It's a good one.

Andy_rse

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Good shout. I'll have to have a look through his albums and find something suitable.



That's exactly what I'm looking for. How did you manage to find that?

You may know him as Wax's brother Herbal T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwT9HQQ1fE

He has a kid now so put a group together for kids called Little Scrubs. ALbum out next month

These are the only others released so far

He actually kills it with his verse in this one lol

Not really a rap tune but hey

Jimmy Iovine

Andy_rse wrote: »

You may know him as Wax's brother Herbal T

No way. I'd never have thought it was Herbal T. Wax is one of my favourite rappers. This is unreal. I haven't listened to Herbal as much as Wax. Definitely will now though.

Just listened to the songs there. They are pretty class.

Wouldn't be able to play that Christmas one in the class though :P. Have to avoid all mention of it or else I'd completely lose them for the rest of the day.

Definitely going to have to keep an eye out for the album.

conor.hogan.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WamkRSDeD8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0irL1M15DH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_dOWYHS7I

Most stuff from the 80's. I Need Love, it's like that, Hey Young World and The Message etc.

Boom_Bap

Any of the Native Tongues stuff, like Tribe or De La, or even Queen Latifah is normally happy stuff with accessible beats and simple rhyme schemes to mimic.

On another note, anyone pick up Fifa 13 (PS3) here? I just got it today and will be looking for some online play. I'm pretty wack so far, I'm an old Pro Evo type and get the shoot and long pass buttons mixed up all the time

conor.hogan.2

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I'm an old Pro Evo type and get the shoot and long pass buttons mixed up all the time

I still think Pro Evo is a better game, despite its worse graphics and stadiums etc

Camac Hibs

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Well it's more because I want to avoid any controversy than the parent's fault to be honest. For the year that I'm in college and being assessed, if I can avoid anything that is even a little out there then I'll be doing well.

Obviously there's a time and place for learning about HIV and other things like that but a music/English lesson from a trainee teacher isn't one of them I don't think :P. I'll let their class teacher deal with that for now.

The Fresh Prince is a very good one. The credits are very good as well. Thanks.

Keep them coming .

The Regiment of Detroit are unfailingly wholesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J0_nLRpVAo

strange fruit project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBNcLlDsoN8

Ohmega Watts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Zjves7WWA

or this classic - can partner with modern languages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1J8uwxotk0

floggg

Try this. Cube's kicking it for the kids.

No, probably not!

Boom_Bap

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I still think Pro Evo is a better game, despite its worse graphics and stadiums etc

i've always been a fan of Pro Evo, but I think that Fifa has just edged it now. Fifa has basically copied the great stuff from PE and sprinkled it with smother graphics and better control. The one thing that is annoying so far in Fifa is that you have to use the analogue stick instead of the D-Pad....i believe the same is happening in the latest Pro Evo as well.

Jimmy Iovine

Heading to a friend's BBQ/birthday party tonight. I've been banned from going near the laptop. Mainly cause everyone there will despise the music that I put on. I will find my way in there though.

He doesn't have all that much rap on it. I'd say "Trouble On My Mind" and "Next Episode" is the extent of it to be honest.

Da Shins Kelly

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Heading to a friend's BBQ/birthday party tonight. I've been banned from going near the laptop. Mainly cause everyone there will despise the music that I put on. I will find my way in there though.

He doesn't have all that much rap on it. I'd say "Trouble On My Mind" and "Next Episode" is the extent of it to be honest.

As long as you're not a song skipper. Those people are the devil. Anyone who plays the first minute and a half or so of a song and then changes it are among my least favourite people.

Jimmy Iovine

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

As long as you're not a song skipper. Those people are the devil. Anyone who plays the first minute and a half or so of a song and then changes it are among my least favourite people.

Yea I'm one of those. Sorry.

I managed to get hold of the laptop and put on "Shutterbugg". Everyone was well on at that stage and they didn't realise.

The DJ in the nightclub played "Next Episode". It was going perfectly up until he decided to cut out the "smoke weed errday" part. I mean that's what you listen to the song for. It's terrible to cut that part out.

Heard a terrible song tonight. "Fly By II" by Blue. The very first few notes that are played are taken from "Hypnotize" by Biggie. I doubt he'd have been happy to find out that Blue used that sample, even though it wasn't his in the first place.

Da Shins Kelly

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Yea I'm one of those. Sorry.

I would have to turn you away at the door of my house party.

Jimmy Iovine

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I would have to turn you away at the door of my house party.

Ah I'm not that bad to be honest. At least I'd put on music that you'd like. Some of the stuff that was played last night was truly horrific.

blue-army

Anyone download Macklemore's debut album yet? It's been #1 on iTunes USA for most of the week.

Absolutely brilliant album. So many great songs.. Listen out for A Wake, Jimmy Iovine and Make The Money

The guy's gonna be huge!

Da Shins Kelly

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Ah I'm not that bad to be honest. At least I'd put on music that you'd like. Some of the stuff that was played last night was truly horrific.

This is true. Usually when I'm at a house party, I just let people play whatever they want, which is usually Rihanna and the likes, and just put up with it. Majority rules and all that!

Boom_Bap

So I'm sitting here watching RTE JR with the young lad, a TV show called Yo Gabba Gabba, and f*cking Biz Markie appears teaching kids how to beat box. Mad.

Bobby Baccala

Walked in on the oul one watching x factor last night only to see some fat bird absolutely butchering Gold Digger by Kanye with an acoustic guitar, worst thing i've seen and heard in about 3 years.

Mr. Rager

What happened three years ago?

Jimmy Iovine

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

This is true. Usually when I'm at a house party, I just let people play whatever they want, which is usually Rihanna and the likes, and just put up with it. Majority rules and all that!

Yea I can't realy do that. I generally just wait until everyone gets drunk and then snoop in and throw on a few songs of my choice.

At least "Shutterbugg" is a quality tune and it's not as gangster a song as I could have put on. I really wish I had my iPod with me to put on some Freddie Gibbs :P.

Jimmy Iovine

Big Ghost (the Ghostface parody account on Twitter) has spoken on last nights presidential debate between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.

To say it's funny would be an understatement. Whoever is behind it all has a serious talent for humour.

Ayo whattup you now in the presence of the majestic divine ovary injector n panty melter…the grand imperial Cocaine Biceps aka Phantom Raviolis aka the illustrious Hands of Zeus…otherwise known as the one n only Big Ghost namsayin. Now normally I aint the type to be dabblin in no politics n ****…that aint really ya boys area of expertise like that nahmean. I aint really up on that governmental ****. Or lets jus say that was the case at one time nahmean. I been tryin to wet my feet in that pool for a minute yo. Bein that as I continue to grow as both a mutha****in man first n foremost n as a what niggas been referrin to as one of the greatest writers n thinkers of our times n whatever…I started to feel as tho it was my obligation as also jussa member of this society in various forms n fashions n whatever whatever to seek the light of knowledge n righteousness for not only myself…but for mutha****as ey’where namsayin. So the first step for me was I was gon stop allowin decisions to be made on my own behalfs n ****. So I was peepin the debate from last night…and yo word is bond…that **** started to make a lot a sense to the god all a sudden b. What I did right…was I got the actual transcripts n I studied that **** to allow me to manifest my purpose n **** yo. Then I took the **** that I felt that niggas needed a better comprehension of n I flipped that into some words n **** that regular mutha****as could actually understand namsayin. More important than that…I wanted to trim the fat n give you the straight talk behind what these niggas is sayin b. Cuz its almost like they speakin another language sometimes nahmean. I mean like…how regular folk really really pose to understand what em dudes is sayin b? Lemme give you a example yo.

Mr. Rager

Anyone know of any French hip-hop I can listen to as an excuse for studying for my LC?

weemcd

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Big Ghost (the Ghostface parody account on Twitter) has spoken on last nights presidential debate between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.

To say it's funny would be an understatement. Whoever is behind it all has a serious talent for humour.

i saw that big ghost one earler, that lad is hilarious, that pic above is a spoof of snoop doggs reasons to vote for obama

Boom_Bap

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Anyone know of any French hip-hop I can listen to as an excuse for studying for my LC?

There is loads. I was in Virgin Megastore in Rennes a couple of weeks ago, the French Hip Hop section was bigger than the rest of the world section :eek:

Try this blog out to see if you can find anything
http://www.squidoo.com/french-hip-hop

weemcd

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Anyone know of any French hip-hop I can listen to as an excuse for studying for my LC?

Try some Suprême NTM, they're decent, only french stuff i've heard before, french is a great language for hip hop, very lyrical

Jimmy Iovine

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Anyone know of any French hip-hop I can listen to as an excuse for studying for my LC?

Psy 4 de la Rime.

And then Soprano from the above group.

About 8 years ago I heard an album by them in a shop over in France. I used to go in every day to listen to it. I regret never buying it. It was brilliant.

This song is great. Haven't a clue of the lyrics but the beat is very good and they sound great over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct-ZOHrD8pA

They broke up a few years ago but Soprano is still going. He was on the BET Cypher last year. He killed it.

Rhyming 'dirty bastard' and DSK (as in the former head of the IMF) takes some serious talent.

Check some of his songs out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF79RoFMZ8

You could use this as a practice for translating. The lyrics are on the screen. Great song.

YOUTUBE]v6Q6QAWnXdQ[/YOUTUBE]

Da Shins Kelly

On a side note, some girls that I went to school with just put up a picture of themselves in their Halloween costumes on Facebook. They have painted themselves completely black, are wearing basketball costumes and berets and holding baguettes and the tagline is 'Niggas in Paris'. :eek: When did blackface become OK for Halloween??

conor.hogan.2

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Anyone know of any French hip-hop I can listen to as an excuse for studying for my LC?

Mc Solaar, I did this exact thing 6 years ago.

Mr. Rager

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Mc Solaar, I did this exact thing 6 years ago.

Did it help?

conor.hogan.2

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Did it help?

No. I only actually found out what one of his most popular songs was about a while ago. Great songs though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZ8uFnoiWQ

I thought this was all happy, haha.

conor.hogan.2

On southern rappers J Cole is clearly influence from his NC background.

Jimmy Iovine

I've had a line from a song stuck in my head all morning. I think it's a sample from another song. Probably used in the hook or something.

"Down goes another rapper". I think there might be something about 40 MCs in there as well.

Anyone able to help me out? Google hasn't been any use.

Talib Fiasco

Sooo hard to knuckle down into college work. So much to do, so damn hard to start...I'm lucky I've no serious deadlines yet.

I need to ease the partying a tad...

Da Shins Kelly

TheComeUp wrote: »

Sooo hard to knuckle down into college work. So much to do, so damn hard to start...I'm lucky I've no serious deadlines yet.

I need to ease the partying a tad...

Sames. Need to stop drinking all my money too.

Talib Fiasco

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Sames. Need to stop drinking all my money too.

Yep...even though I'm only out two nights a week these weeks compared to 5 at the start...did sweet f*ck all today bar a reading and my Irish hw which a 2nd year in Sec. School could do...I'm lucky I've a slack week next week...I'm in school monday for SP/TP and we're off Thurs and Fri due to graduation in college.

Da Shins Kelly

TheComeUp wrote: »

Yep...even though I'm only out two nights a week these weeks compared to 5 at the start...did sweet f*ck all today bar a reading and my Irish hw which a 2nd year in Sec. School could do...I'm lucky I've a slack week next week...I'm in school monday for SP/TP and we're off Thurs and Fri due to graduation in college.

Same, have done very little today bar making a chickpea curry and watching episodes of the X-Files. So, very productive. I'm studying abroad right now, and alcohol is so, so cheap here, which just means I end up buying more. You don't realise the money going.

It's already nearly the end of October. :eek:

Talib Fiasco

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Same, have done very little today bar making a chickpea curry and watching episodes of the X-Files. So, very productive. I'm studying abroad right now, and alcohol is so, so cheap here, which just means I end up buying more. You don't realise the money going.

It's already nearly the end of October. :eek:

I downloaded pdf readings and lectures slides too...forgot about that :P

Ahh man that's dangerous!!! I wouldn't be able to do a bit of work there.

It's seriously scary....I must have an assignment in for the 6th and I haven't even a clue what the title is. Yera :L

Bobby Baccala

I wanna go to college!! yous lads are making it sound so fun! 6th year is boring the nipples off me, all i've done is drink and more or less no work, i should really get the head in the books but sessions just keep popping up all over the calender, it's not really my fault...