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8 out of 10 cats also applies to patients

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  • 22-09-2012 12:47pm
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    SeaSide
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    I saw this article this morning and have read it twice. From the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/sep/21/drugs-industry-scandal-ben-goldacre?INTCMP=SRCH
    The doctors prescribing the drugs don't know they don't do what they're meant to. Nor do their patients. The manufacturers know full well, but they're not telling.

    There was an old joke about the title of this thread in that the research company would keep going until they found a group of 10 cats where 8 preferred their Kitkat or whatever. Seems some pharma research have been doing the same. Results which don't suit the company are hidden and only results which suit the company are released.


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    The_Conductor
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    That article certainly makes scarey reading!


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    gctest50
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    I suppose its a talent in itself knowing what not to reveal ...... i couldn't see lantus being too popular if the dsn came bounding into the room and went something like :

    " Would you like to try this one ? Suits you sir ? Company has a proud heritage of erm thalidomide something something....."


    'Sanofi-Aventis (SNY), hid evidence of thalidomide distribution in the United States in the late 1950s, lying to Congress and creating a false narrative that the drug was blocked by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)'

    'According to court documents, Grunenthal and its marketing partners disguised the distribution of thalidomide as a "clinical trial,'


    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hagens-berman-german-drug-manufacturers-161852696.html


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    SeaSide
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    Another article on the subject

    http://www.economist.com/node/21563689


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    gctest50
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    "1) tramadol is a nonscheduled medication,
    2) most people are unaware of its opioid nature,
    3) its name does not produce "opiophobia" like morphine does    ,
    4) it is not considered a drug that produces severe adverse effects, dependence, or abuse. However, some studies have reported tramadol abuse, respiratory depression in patients with renal failure, cerebral depression, and"

    from : http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleID=177237


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