Should something be done about fireworks?

akura

Why dont they just make them legal, because as long as there legal in the north people are going to get them

Varied

I tripped over a paving stone and sprained my toe.

BAN THE PAVING STONES!!!11

Muir

I've actually had my hair & clothes burned from having them fired in my direction by scumbags where I live. Someone said modify your behaviour so it wont happen, what should I do, not set foot outside my own front door? I blame the parents though, letting kids no older than 8 have them, clearly have no regard for their children's safety. They've been putting them in bottles the past few days & if someone were to trip on the road now they'd be cut to bits from the glass everywhere. People went & swept up & they just started doing it again. Someone was actually throwing them & glass bottles at the gardai last night, so I pity them putting up with it all.

Mr. Manager

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

Don't be a dry balls, let them have their fun

I was of the same mentality until I was about 16 and a firework went off in my hand as it was lit.

Prior to this I thought I was the dogs bollox and nothing was going to happen. Now, thinking back, it was retarded. Fireworks are retard unless used in a professional manner and kids/teenagers don't know what that is.

That was the single most painful experience of my life and wouldn't wish it upon anyone. Had to get minor surgery and am left unable to touch my baby finger with my thumb and a stupid tan line were my skin can't get colour.

No one will ever take any heed to the above until it happens to them.

So I'll just say, from first hand experience, fireworks (unless used in the correct way) are extremely dangerous and should not be messed with

PaulKK

They should be made legal. Ireland is one of the few countries where they aren't legal, and frankly its crazy when they are available across the border anyway.

Some advantages would be
- Regulating the quality of fireworks available
- Removing the black market for them and therefore reducing the availability to kids
- Gaining a bit of tax revenue from their sale

I think regulation and sale to over 18s only is the way forward. I know kids can still get drink and ciggarettes but it would help a lot imo if the dodgey sellers were put out of business.

When used correctly there's nothing wrong with them.

GarIT

PaulKK wrote: »

They should be made legal. Ireland is one of the few countries where they aren't legal, and frankly its crazy when they are available across the border anyway.

Some advantages would be
- Regulating the quality of fireworks available
- Removing the black market for them and therefore reducing the availability to kids
- Gaining a bit of tax revenue from their sale

I think regulation and sale to over 18s only is the way forward. I know kids can still get drink and ciggarettes but it would help a lot imo if the dodgey sellers were put out of business.

When used correctly there's nothing wrong with them.

That probably is the best way forward, but it needs to be remembered that they are dangerous explosives and there should be severe punishments for any parents of a child found in possession of them.

Pottler

Very harsh thread-I think if found in posession of fireworks, they should be let off.

marcsignal

holystungun9 wrote: »

Sorry, but reading that kind of stuff brings out my inner vigilante. You really don't want to know what I'd do to people who did this kind of thing.

I am 100% with you on that.

If you ever catch one and agree to hold him down, I will gladly get a red hot fire iron and shove the cold end up his hole so he can't remove it.

LordSutch

GarIT wrote: »

Should something be done about fireworks?

Yeah, make them legal again . . .

Like they used to be back up until the late 60s, providing of course that strict guidelines/regulations are put in place. All that black market revenue would be well spent towards helping to dig us out of our current debt problems, and I guess that there's a lot of money hemorrhaging out of the state every year/decade, with many people and families buying Fireworks from outside the State.

Northern Ireland & Wales must make a lot of money out of annual Firework sales to punters from the Republic.

Holyjebus

I fecking DETEST this time of year...scumbags in the town throwing them at cars and people. I had one group of them pretend to throw one in on top of my child in his buggy in broad daylight, put the fear of God in me. I rang the guards and they never turned up
Also cars in the estate are having the windows smashed out by little ****s putting bangers behind the wipers.
Having them thrown into my garden where my dog is, again in daylight.
Yep, great fun this time every year:rolleyes:

previous user

Yes, make them bigger.

FloatingVoter

I have no problems with fireworks used responsibly in a controlled environment - ie. one or two sober adults in charge in an open space

My problem starts when I have to seal down my letterbox in case little toerags do a number on my house with the same small explosives.

I used fireworks and small explosives in two separate paragraphs very deliberately.

hatrickpatrick

Category 2 and 3 fireworks should be legal and regulated, like in most other sensible countries and unlike so many things in Ireland in which the government just issue a blanket ban for a quiet life instead of actually putting in the effort to make proper regulations about it.

****ty parents: "ah leave it ouhhhh, let them have their bleedin fun"

Capt'n Midnight

Fireworks are legal.
You just need a license.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal_law/criminal_offences/the_law_on_fireworks.html

Can I organise a fireworks display at a special event such as a party?

Yes, but the fireworks must be licensed for import and only if a professional fireworks operator is used. If you want to import fireworks into Ireland you must apply for a licence or get a professional fireworks operator to apply, on your behalf, to the Department of Justice and Equality. Application forms are available (Word) from the Department and can be downloaded from the Department's website. The application must be made at least one month before the proposed event. The licence is free.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-19596089

The 5 September blaze at a fireworks factory that claimed 38 lives was the worst in recent memory.

In some of the biggest factory fires, about 40 people died in 2009, 30 in 2001 and more than 60 in 1991. The list of casualties in smaller mishaps is much longer.

But more than 700,000 workers of Sivakasi have no other option but to depend on one of the most hazardous industries for their livelihood.

About 20-25 workers die each year in fire accidents in this industry which boasts of an estimated annual turnover of more than $365m (£225m).
...
"In the last 12 months, before this accident, 22 workers lost their lives and 50 were injured," says Dr M Kathiresan, chief medical officer at the local government hospital.

The hospital has a shortage of staff and equipment and has no supply of morphine, the standard pain relief drug for burn victims

CruelCoin

I've been injured scuba-diving: Lets ban scuba-diving!
I've been injured driving: Lets ban cars!
I've been injured by a aquarium lid when i dropped it: lets ban aquariums!

Stupid suggestion OP.

shruikan2553

Should make them legal but
1. Must be 18+ to buy
2. Only allowed to carry them if you have a purpose (ie. just bought them, taking them somewhere. not people sitting at a street corner with their pockets full) If caught have them taken away.
3. If caught using them in a way not intended you are fined and faced being charged with attempted GBH or whatever.

In my school everyone had to walk down an avenue that could barely fit 2 cars passing in the mornings, lunch and afternoon so you would get people throwing them there. We were all packed close together and could only go in 1 of 2 directions. Halloween was filled with a charge of people running, most not even knowing where the firework was. Rarely the guards would be there but the next day it would be the same people doing it.

GarIT

CruelCoin wrote: »

I've been injured scuba-diving: Lets ban scuba-diving!
I've been injured driving: Lets ban cars!
I've been injured by a aquarium lid when i dropped it: lets ban aquariums!

Stupid suggestion OP.

Firstly they are already illegal the gards just wont enforce the law.

They are all different, none of them are often used as a wepon, and people have been killed by cars but you need to pass a test and be old enough to drive one, cars also have a useful function but fireworks are just for entertainment.

By your logic guns should be legal.

nachocheese

Fireworks are great and should, if anything, be a lot more readily available down here.

It's the teenage cunts that get their hands on them that are the issue here. The usual knackers really, the products of uneducated, work shy households that are in themselves a very, very good argument in favour of readily available abortion.

Here's hoping we have a lovely, soaking wet October.

nachocheese

It's funny, in Ireland if a little knacker kid comes onto your property, throws a firework through your letterbox potentially scaring or hurting people inside while also damaging property, if you go out and kick the face off him YOU'RE the one who gets in trouble.

Every year areas have problems with knacker children and fireworks and yet nothing is ever done. Thankfully our area is very quiet in that regard, however a cat was put into a public bin nearby a few years ago and it was set on fire and I honestly don't think I could NOT kick the face off the kids if I saw them doing it...yet it'd be me being hauled off!

GarIT

nachocheese wrote: »

Fireworks are great and should, if anything, be a lot more readily available down here.

It's the teenage cunts that get their hands on them that are the issue here. The usual knackers really, the products of uneducated, work shy households that are in themselves a very, very good argument in favour of readily available abortion.

Here's hoping we have a lovely, soaking wet October.

I'll repeat again, its not a small group of people a quick survey today in college indicates that 92% of 17-20 year olds have used fireworks at some point in their lives, and that was out of a Computer Science class, so it was mainly the nerdy kids.

nachocheese

GarIT wrote: »

I'll repeat again, its not a small group of people a quick survey today in college indicates that 92% of 17-20 year olds have used fireworks at some point in their lives, and that was out of a Computer Science class, so it was mainly the nerdy kids.

Using fireworks and abusing fireworks are two very separate things.

latenia

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Should make them legal but
1. Must be 18+ to buy
2. Only allowed to carry them if you have a purpose (ie. just bought them, taking them somewhere. not people sitting at a street corner with their pockets full) If caught have them taken away.
3. If caught using them in a way not intended you are fined and faced being charged with attempted GBH or whatever.

To this I'd add that they're only permitted to be used on certain days ie Halloween, New Years Eve and maybe St Patrick's Day.

GarIT

nachocheese wrote: »

Using fireworks and abusing fireworks are two very separate things.

The thing is though they are illegal, while something is illegal it shouldnt be done at all. If something is illegal but you think it should be legal you don't just do it anyway, you try to have the law changed.

I know people who have had banger wars throwing bangers over a metal fence in a kids playground at eachother, thet have put fireworks in letterboxes, have put fireworks and bangers in dead animals, and none of these are bad people during the rest of the year.

phill106

GarIT wrote: »

I was in a public toilet and had fireworks thrown at me at the time

I'm sorry, that must have scared the sh1t out of you! Saying that though, if they didn't do it with fireworks they could have used anything else.
Historically, why are fireworks banned? Is it incase we make a bomb out of them?

Totally Tropical

Sorry for bumping this but is it normal to hear fireworks in the run up to St Patricks Day?I haven't heard any yet but people have been hearing them in parts of Cork.

CollardGreens

....next thing you know they will be wanting to ban semi-auto guns.....:rolleyes:

Tombi!

Totally Tropical wrote: »

Sorry for bumping this but is it normal to hear fireworks in the run up to St Patricks Day?I haven't heard any yet but people have been hearing them in parts of Cork.

I think so, actually. I know on the day before St. Patricks I heard them.

Totally Tropical

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I think so, actually. I know on the day before St. Patricks I heard them.

I suppose the little brats just look for any excuse nowadays.

Totally Tropical

Fireworks outside of halloween are becoming a lot more common.You normally wouldn't expect this in April.

Sky King

GarIT wrote: »

IMO there should be fines and arrests, I've been injured by fireworks and I believe it wouldn't have happened if the gards did their job and dealt with it.

They obviously seize some fireworks anyway because I was in the glen of imaal one time when they were setting them all off safely disposing of them. It was great craic.

1shot16

Fireworks should be made legal as all those ejits who mess with dem get them anyways no matter wha so its not going to make a difference if there legal or not...

WOCM4

I really think the timers should be random.

Will teach some respect. Just like wen I wer a lad.

I trust Chinese explosives with my life.

tdv123

WOCM4 wrote: »

I really think the timers should be random.

Will teach some respect. Just like wen I wer a lad.

I trust Chinese explosives with my life.

There fireworks not microwaves, they use fuses not timers.