Woman reg'ing voters, works 4 CCO, only reg Romney voters.

joseph brand

Woman registering voters, works for the County Clerk's office but only registering Romney voters.

That poor young girl is being used by some unscrupulous individuals, and no doubt the buck stops with her. A crash course in politics, but perhaps she'll learn from her mistake and lose faith in the GOP and Romney.

So the GOP like to play dirty eh? Not happy with disenfranchising voters, now they're registering voters, but only if they're willing to vote for Romney and the 1%.

In the words of Ann Romney, "Stop it!"

joseph brand

Another tactic used by the GOP is sign stealing.

Tennessee Majority Leader, Rep. Gerald McCormick (R) was caught stealing Frank Eaton, the Democratic candidate for TN-27th sign's in a public right of way on Saturday. He also cursed out Frank Eaton in front of his wife, Joy. It is bad enough to steal signs, but cursing is never acceptable or becoming conduct of a public official in the South, even prisoners, parolees, gang members all have manners and conduct in front of women - not so for the Majority Leader McCormick.

This was a disturbing incident. Rep. McCormick got so angry that he turned red in the face, yelled some threatening remarks, and took a step toward Frank. In case you have never met the man, he is a burly construction –worker type. He was trying to frighten Frank. Conduct highly unbecoming a state lawmaker.

Ripping down street signs in a temper, stomping feet and shouting foul language at a man and his wife, in broad daylight? I'd expect this from a young drunken man, late a night on the weekend.

Cantankerous Republican is cantankerous.

InTheTrees

Voter suppression by the republicans is in full swing now.

they're desperately trying to make it more difficult for as many minorities as they can.

Amerika

You’re always going to have these weird isolated incidents pop up from both sides, but it is in no way indicative of the parties general tactics as a whole (well with ACORN out of the picture anyway ).

A Florida tenured college professor has been placed on leave over reports that she made students in a math class sign a pledge to vote for President Obama. VOTE OBAMA OR FLUNK!
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/professor-made-students-sign-vote-for-obama-ple.html

Sulla Felix

Amerika wrote: »

You’re always going to have these weird isolated incidents pop up from both sides, but it is in no way indicative of the parties general tactics as a whole (well with ACORN out of the picture anyway ).

A Florida tenured college professor has been placed on leave over reports that she made students in a math class sign a pledge to vote for President Obama. VOTE OBAMA OR FUNK!
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/professor-made-students-sign-vote-for-obama-ple.html

This. As much as I despise Romney, the democrats have always known how to play dirty as well.

InTheTrees

I dont know of any states where Democrats are requiring people to present photo ID before they can vote.

Republicans are attempting to restrict voting in twenty four states.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hwaFn6bLf77fz_NKx7ThohJq9GvA?docId=CNG.bfd232f2b92ec0cfdfb1eab57808ec4a.141

Amerika

InTheTrees wrote: »

I dont know of any states where Democrats are requiring people to present photo ID before they can vote.

Perhaps because the Democrats are usually the beneficiaries of voter fraud?

Republicans are attempting to restrict voting in twenty four states.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hwaFn6bLf77fz_NKx7ThohJq9GvA?docId=CNG.bfd232f2b92ec0cfdfb1eab57808ec4a.141

Do you believe gerrymandering is only done by republicans?

InTheTrees

Amerika wrote: »

Do you believe gerrymandering is only done by republicans?

Redistricting is something that happens all the time. Republicans in Texas are the first to spring to mind.

But republican attempts to restrict voting are beyond gerrymandering.

In Tennesee, they now require Photo ID but have specifically excluded Student ID's.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/22/voter-id-laws-gop-college-student_n_1791568.html

jonsnow

Looks like she doesnt work for the CCO to be fair.I,d say she didnt understand her role given that she didnt even know who she worked for.Im sure the romney campaign in the midwest mightn't exactly be handing over every obama voter they register- but I dont think the County registrars office are going to hire a girl this wet behind the ears to be part of some dodgy stunt either.

Mjollnir

Amerika wrote: »

Perhaps because the Democrats are usually the beneficiaries of voter fraud?

The voter fraud that has been constantly shown not to exist, but that you still magically claim exists?

That voter fraud?

Weeeeeeeeeee!

MadYaker

Can someone explain to me the problem with having to provide ID when voting? Theres a huge fuss over it in the US but surely an official form of ID isn't that hard to get. You could be asked to produce photo ID in ireland and if you don't have it you won't be able to vote but nobody makes a big deal out of it here.

InTheTrees

MadYaker wrote: »

Can someone explain to me the problem with having to provide ID when voting? Theres a huge fuss over it in the US but surely an official form of ID isn't that hard to get. You could be asked to produce photo ID in ireland and if you don't have it you won't be able to vote but nobody makes a big deal out of it here.

Obviously if it was completely unreasonable then there wouldnt be any pushes to implement it so you are correct that on the face of it it seems perfectly fair.

Most people have a Social Security card. But that isnt photo ID. A lot of people have driving licences so that works.

Other than that you can go to the Drivers licence office and get some kind of PhotoID even if you dont drive, but i'm not sure what kind of ID that is.

The thing is that the people who are least likely to have driving licences are the poor and disadvantaged, and the old and infirm. All likely Democrat voters.

So 24 states (with Republican legislatures) attempting to introduce laws to make voting more difficult within six months of the election is fairly obvious in its intent.

MadYaker

So there is no cheap form of official ID available to US citizens? Like the Age Card we have here? Thats ridiculous.

DB21

MadYaker wrote: »

Can someone explain to me the problem with having to provide ID when voting? Theres a huge fuss over it in the US but surely an official form of ID isn't that hard to get. You could be asked to produce photo ID in ireland and if you don't have it you won't be able to vote but nobody makes a big deal out of it here.

See, the problem is that some states (mostly Red ones) want an official voter ID card. To get this, you'd need a passport, a driver's licence, or something like that. No problem for middle-class white people. It's a problem for minorities, students, the elderly; i.e. the people most likely to vote democrat on the back of policies such as healthcare, education, and other "hand-outs".

On top of that you have Republican representatives outright admitting it's a step to help Romney win.

Amerika

InTheTrees wrote: »

The thing is that the people who are least likely to have driving licences are the poor and disadvantaged, and the old and infirm. All likely Democrat voters.

The problem with this statement is that those listed usually receive some sort of government benefits… Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Healthcare, VA benefits, etc…

You mostly need the same identifications to receive these benefits as is needed to get a valid photo ID.

So they seemingly didn't have a problem doing what was necessary to receive their government benefits, but have massive problems getting a valid photo ID in order to vote???

Perhaps the real problem with the ID requirement comes down to the people not elibible to vote not being allowed to vote.

DB21

Amerika wrote: »

The problem with this statement is that those listed usually receive some sort of government benefits… Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Healthcare, VA benefits, etc…

You mostly need the same identifications to receive these benefits as is needed to get a valid photo ID.

So they seemingly didn't have a problem doing what was necessary to receive their government benefits, but have massive problems getting a valid photo ID in order to vote???

Perhaps the real problem with the ID requirement comes down to the people not elibible to vote not being allowed to vote.

Amerika, that's not the issue with this initiative though. The issue is that certain states want to introduce a whole new ID system, which to get through you need something more than Social Security cards, the main proposal being a diver's licence, which is unfair on those who don't have one out of it not being necessary.

Duck Soup

MadYaker wrote: »

Can someone explain to me the problem with having to provide ID when voting? Theres a huge fuss over it in the US but surely an official form of ID isn't that hard to get. You could be asked to produce photo ID in ireland and if you don't have it you won't be able to vote but nobody makes a big deal out of it here.

Okay, here's the problem. If you don't have ID - typically a passport or driver's licence - that's probably because you don't anticapate going abroad or driving a car any time soon. In other words, those without these forms of ID are typically poor. They may be retired, they may be unemployed, they may be the working poor doing two or more jobs to keep going.

If someone doesn't have a driver's licence, then pretty much by definition they're not driving. And America isn't the size of Ireland. For example, in Texas your nearest DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) might be 125 miles away. Typically, these are only open week days, although in Wisconsin 26% of DMVs are open one day a month or less. One day a month.

So let's say you're a single mom, keen to vote, working full time. First off, you have to find a day that your nearest DMV is open at a time and day that's possible for you to make. Next, you have to take a day off, probably unpaid. Then, you have to make a round trip of up to 250 miles on public transport. Then you have to pay for the license. Obviously, if you're missing a single necessary item of ID or paperwork, you have go through the whole process over again.

And that's the whole point. If you're poor, you can barely afford to be taking days off. Plus cost of transport, plus costs of license. The whole point is that it's difficult and expensive.

But bear in mind that the ID hoops that they like the poor and elderly to jump through are just part of a wider voter suppression effort, including curtailing early voting (which heavily favours Democrats), restrictions on voter registration drives (which heavily favour Democrats) and voter roll purges (which strangely have been shown to target ethnic minority names).

It isn't about electoral integrity, it's about dragging down the opposition voter turn out, by any means possible.

MadYaker

So why don't the US governemt just make some form of official ID cheap and readily available to anyone who wants it, something you can get from your local police station like we have here.

Memnoch

MadYaker wrote: »

So why don't the US governemt just make some form of official ID cheap and readily available to anyone who wants it, something you can get from your local police station like we have here.

Because the objective isn't to stop voter fraud or to create a fair voting system but to stop - by discouraging them and making it as difficult for them as possible - minorities (blacks, mexicans) and poor people (usually minorities) from voting in order to sabotage the same democracy that the GOP claim to hold so dear so that they may cling on to power.

joseph brand

Another point to this is, why the hell would anyone bother committing voter fraud?

There's nothing to be gained, for risking a criminal offence.

This article claims that Romney committed voter fraud himself.

Short diary, few links, but deadly serious. No snark. And unfortunately no proof.

Clear enough. Mittens is likely guilty of voter fraud, by living in California (or perhaps New Hampshire), owning no property in Massachusetts, yet voting in the 2010 election by claiming he "resided" in his son's unfinished basement. He's denied it, and though I'm not a Massachusetts political junkie and therefore know few details about how he's managed to fend off the charges of voter fraud, he's so far managed to dodge the story almost entirely.

The tax returns, along with showing just how unethically and unpatriotically clever he's been in sheltering his Rmillions from Uncle Sam and the IRS, will also prove that he resided legally in California when he trundled his rich ass back to MA to cast an illegal vote for Scott Brown.

InTheTrees

MadYaker wrote: »

So why don't the US governemt just make some form of official ID cheap and readily available to anyone who wants it, something you can get from your local police station like we have here.

Because the "United States" is really a collection of different states that are united under a Federal government.

Federal ID is a passport. I think I would be right in saying most americans dont have passports. Most never leave the country.

Each state gets to decide its own laws as regards ID thats required and its republicans doing their best to stop those inclined to vote democrat.

Local Police stations are run by local counties. Nothing to do with the federal government.

Some states have photo ID's for people that dont drive but you still have to go to the Drivers Licence office to get it!

Amerika

DB21 wrote: »

Amerika, that's not the issue with this initiative though. The issue is that certain states want to introduce a whole new ID

What "whole new ID?"

Brussels Sprout

The way demographics and income disparity are going in America, in future elections the Republicans might actually have to change their policies to attract the poor and minorities rather than trying to crudely disenfranchise them.

FatherTed

Amerika wrote: »

The problem with this statement is that those listed usually receive some sort of government benefits… Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Healthcare, VA benefits, etc…

You mostly need the same identifications to receive these benefits as is needed to get a valid photo ID.

So they seemingly didn't have a problem doing what was necessary to receive their government benefits, but have massive problems getting a valid photo ID in order to vote???

Perhaps the real problem with the ID requirement comes down to the people not elibible to vote not being allowed to vote.

Show me where you need a passport or driver license or some other sort of official photo id to apply for any of those benefits.

DB21

Amerika wrote: »

What "whole new ID?"

Apologies, I forgot to put in the word "system"

Amerika

FatherTed wrote: »

Show me where you need a passport or driver license or some other sort of official photo id to apply for any of those benefits.

You obviously didn't read my comment correctly.

You mostly need the same identifications to receive these benefits as is needed to get a valid photo ID.

Example:
http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/ss5doc.htm#o-a-us-documents

InTheTrees

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

The way demographics and income disparity are going in America, in future elections the Republicans might actually have to change their policies to attract the poor and minorities rather than trying to crudely disenfranchise them.

You would think so wouldnt you.

And maybe after this election they'll get a clue. They're relying on lies and fear right now and its not working too well for them.

The Bishop!

Here is another one. In Ohio.

Tea party groups work to remove names from Ohio voter rolls
Activists say they're challenging some names to ensure 'election integrity.' Others say it's an effort to suppress the votes of likely Obama supporters.

CINCINNATI — Lori Monroe, a 40-year-old Democrat who lives in central Ohio, was startled a few weeks ago to open a letter that said a stranger was challenging her right to vote in the presidential election.
Monroe, who was recovering from cancer surgery, called the local election board to protest. A local tea party leader was trying to strike Monroe from the voter rolls for a reason that made no sense: Her apartment building in Lancaster was listed as a commercial property.
"I'm like, really? Seriously?" Monroe said. "I've lived here seven years, and now I'm getting challenged?"
Monroe's is one of at least 2,100 names that tea party groups have sought to remove from Ohio's voter rosters.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ohio-voting-fight-20120927,0,811761.story