Are some religions madder than others?

El Weirdo

Some religions' mothers are madder than other religions' mothers.

suicide_circus

At least with Judaism, Christianity, Islam a lot of the text are based around places, times and even people who we know factually existed.
Its the scientology and even LDS stuff which far more ridiculous.

Capt'n Midnight

iguana wrote: »

With Mormonism we can follow it's evolution

Don't you mean Intelligent Design ?

Toby Take a Bow

suicide_circus wrote: »

At least with Judaism, Christianity, Islam a lot of the text are based around places, times and even people who we know factually existed.
Its the scientology and even LDS stuff which far more ridiculous.

Hubbard (key person in Scientology) 'factually' existed as did LDS' Joseph Smith. While there are many factual persons in the Bible and the Koran, there are a lot of people mentioned whom we don't have verifiable proof that they existed.

suicide_circus

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

Hubbard (key person in Scientology) 'factually' existed as did LDS' Joseph Smith. While there are many factual persons in the Bible and the Koran, there are a lot of people mentioned whom we don't have verifiable proof that they existed.

I stand by my point.

Omackeral

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

How can you believe in a religion that is based on all humans originating from a couple who only had sons ??

Easy. The sons were motherf**kers.

philologos

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

suicide_circus wrote: »

At least with Judaism, Christianity, Islam a lot of the text are based around places, times and even people who we know factually existed.
Its the scientology and even LDS stuff which far more ridiculous.

Hubbard (key person in Scientology) 'factually' existed as did LDS' Joseph Smith. While there are many factual persons in the Bible and the Koran, there are a lot of people mentioned whom we don't have verifiable proof that they existed.

I think the better question to get into is why do you and others find Christianity unconvincing?

For the record - I think atheism particularly the post-2006 form that is among us is fairly mad in comparison to many religions.

Shryke

They are all passed the logical threshold but some are definitely madder than others. It's not about comparing mythologies as much as comparing cultures and modern teachings. Some religions are more modern than others in this respect and religions will and do adapt views, usually behind time. Catholicism is being dragged into the last century right about now. Islam is well behind that and far more mad and poisonous than most of its contemporaries.

lazygal

philologos wrote: »

I think the better question to get into is why do you and others find Christianity unconvincing.

For the record - I think atheism particularly the post-2006 form that is among us is fairly mad in comparison to many religions?

Great, another opportunity for you to witness or give testimony or whatever the Christian groups call it.


Let's just say I'm not entirely convinced that a bloke who died a couple of thousand years ago came back to life, and before dying performed a heck of a lot of magic tricks, sorry 'miracles'. And the book upon which Christianity is founded has a few....inconsistencies, plus advocating rape, the killing of children and an inferior role of women. So what's to like? BTW, Philogos, you don't have to try to convert me, I'm happy in my atheism, really and truely.

Jimoslimos

philologos wrote: »

For the record - I think atheism particularly the post-2006 form that is among us is fairly mad in comparison to many religions.

Ah yes, the great schism and atheist reformation of 2006! I remember it wel....actually what the fcuk are you talking about??

Sarky

philologos wrote: »

I think the better question to get into is why do you and others find Christianity unconvincing?

For the record - I think atheism particularly the post-2006 form that is among us is fairly mad in comparison to many religions.

Can we just skip the tedious bits where you evangelise at people who aren't interested and jump straight to the part where you disappear after people ask you to back up your crazy statements until you think people have forgotten you? It'll save everyone a lot of time and irritation, yourself included.

philologos

lazygal wrote: »

philologos wrote: »

I think the better question to get into is why do you and others find Christianity unconvincing.

For the record - I think atheism particularly the post-2006 form that is among us is fairly mad in comparison to many religions?

Great, another opportunity for you to witness or give testimony or whatever the Christian groups call it.


Let's just say I'm not entirely convinced that a bloke who died a couple of thousand years ago came back to life, and before dying performed a heck of a lot of magic tricks, sorry 'miracles'. And the book upon which Christianity is founded has a few....inconsistencies, plus advocating rape, the killing of children and an inferior role of women. So what's to like? BTW, Philogos, you don't have to try to convert me, I'm happy in my atheism, really and truely.

Most of the atheists have many opportunities to witness on boards.ie, I just seek to give a Christian perspective.

The Bible doesn't advocate rape, now does it advocate slaughtering children. The Bible does make clear that life is God's its his to give and his to take away. As a result of Jesus coming into the world we no longer have to face condemnation, but if we repent we receive eternal life in His name.

Let me know what you think anyway, oh and it isn't about happiness its about truth.

fasttalkerchat

fryup wrote: »

yes some are nuttier than others.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k7mpnPJWDo

Didn't over a Million go to see the Pope in Ireland? Iran has over 10 times the population!

lazygal

philologos wrote: »

Most of the atheists have many opportunities to witness on boards.ie, I just seek to give a Christian perspective.

The Bible doesn't advocate rape, now does it advocate slaughtering children. The Bible does make clear that life is God's its his to give and his to take away. As a result of Jesus coming into the world we no longer have to face condemnation, but if we repent we receive eternal life in His name.

Let me know what you think anyway, oh and it isn't about happiness its about truth.

What about the bits where God orders the killing of people then? And I fail to see why one book written from multiple sources many, many centuries ago is more truthful than any other written since then.

Biggins

philologos wrote: »

The Bible doesn't advocate rape, nor does it advocate slaughtering children.

No?

Must be a different bible you have read:

* http://imageshack.us/a/img26/4738/068godcommandingrape.jpg

* http://imageshack.us/a/img201/3709/034whenthebiblesaysitso.jpg

krudler

lazygal wrote: »

What about the bits where God orders the killing of people then? And I fail to see why one book written from multiple sources many, many centuries ago is more truthful than any other written since then.

the bible is true because it says its true, and round and round we go.

kodoherty93

Definitely mormonism or any other us Protestants church's that were founded in the us.

Like Mormons believe in the book of Mormon that Adam and eve were in Jacksonville Missouri. That you can be a polygamist.

Also some of the baptist church's and there extreme views on homosexuality and abortion. But it's not uncommon for the members of the church to be on there 2/3th marriage.

philologos

krudler wrote: »

the bible is true because it says its true, and round and round we go.

Not at all, I've never argued that on boards.ie before.

iguana

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Ah yes, the great schism and atheist reformation of 2006! I remember it wel....actually what the fcuk are you talking about??

Clearly it's when you joined boards.

Toby Take a Bow

philologos wrote: »

I think the better question to get into is why do you and others find Christianity unconvincing?

For the record - I think atheism particularly the post-2006 form that is among us is fairly mad in comparison to many religions.

I wouldn't be a huge fan of Dawkins' religious views (or, rather, how he expresses them), same goes for Hitchens and the rest of them.

Why do I find Christianity unconvincing? Generally, it's because I see the Bible as a collection of texts written a few hundred years after the events they're describing (or, in some case, of the events they're claiming to predict). Then there's the inconsistencies (but I suppose that depends on whether you're looking at it literally or metaphorically). But the main reason is that God, in a very convoluted and bizarre manner, decided that, in order to save us from our sin (issues with that as well) sent down his son as a blood sacrifice. This might make sense if Genesis happened as it was supposed to happen, but, otherwise, nope. They'd be my main issues with the book that Christianity is based on. I'd have serious issues with Christianity as a Church due to all of them seemingly operating as if they're making it up as they go along.

Birroc

Where To wrote: »

Religion is about the manipulation of others.

Is it fair to say that religion usually 'happens' to stupid people?

Nodin

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Didn't over a Million go to see the Pope in Ireland? Iran has over 10 times the population!

And he was credited with bringing down the Shah, which wouldn't have hurt his turnout either.

Capt'n Midnight

philologos wrote: »

The Bible doesn't advocate rape, now does it advocate slaughtering children. The Bible does make clear that life is God's its his to give and his to take away. As a result of Jesus coming into the world we no longer have to face condemnation, but if we repent we receive eternal life in His name.

All those bits lovingly recreated in LEGO. Enjoy

http://www.thebricktestament.com/home.html

philologos

What I'd enjoy more is if you took out the text yourself and substantiated the claims. Then we could get talking about it!

Toby Take a Bow

philologos wrote: »

What I'd enjoy more is if you took out the text yourself and substantiated the claims. Then we could get talking about it!

Who is the above directed towards?