Bill Clinton reveals he could run for Irish Presidency

Sir Pompous Righteousness

Glenn_Flinn wrote: »

Bill Clinton is a 33rd degree mason. He comes from the same lineage as Bush. The forbidden group already have total control over Ireland. Irish people are apathetic sheeple, they don't need a publicity stunt to gain total control.

I've always thought about joining the Freemasons. Great bunch of lads. Not given the credit they deserve to be honest.

Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm sure that makes all the victims of his foreign policy feel better.

Sure Germans enjoyed a great improvement in their standard of living under Hitler's first eight years in charge. :rolleyes:

OK .......

Belgrade was committing genocide.SOMETHING had to be done they had a leader that really was aping Hitler and was a dictator who the poeple themselves then disposed off...he saved kosovo from ethinic cleansing the bombing stopped when beltrade stopped...he had to do something to deal with Saddam at least he did not go to war..

And those were not only Americas foreign polices other countries got involved too.

Neewbie_noob

davet82 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/next-resident-of-the-aras-bill-clinton-reveals-he-could-run-for-irish-presidency-3242239.html



well he has my vote

Don't you need an unbroken term of residency
Irish Citizenship (not just ancestry)
and be able to "labhair as Gaeilge".

Penny Dreadful

giant_midget wrote: »

He probably could get lots done, Not as if there is any sexy women in the Dail to distract him. :pac:

Monica Lewinsky was hardly sexy. In fact she was not at all good looking or attractive IMHO.........the other woman Gennifer Flowers had a really odd look too and an enormous nose......Hillary at least is really clever.
He doesn't have the best taste in women.

gobnaitolunacy

Monica was savage, but she let herself go.

Penny Dreadful

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm sure that makes all the victims of his foreign policy feel better.

Sure Germans enjoyed a great improvement in their standard of living under Hitler's first eight years in charge. :rolleyes:

Are you really comparing Clinton to Hitler:eek:
Even Ken Starr and Newt Gingrich never did that.

Dave!

Penny Dreadful wrote: »

Monica Lewinsky was hardly sexy. In fact she was not at all good looking or attractive IMHO.........the other woman Gennifer Flowers had a really odd look too and an enormous nose......Hillary at least is really clever.
He doesn't have the best taste in women.

That documentary about the Clintons was on TV the other day, and Monica Lewinsky looked proper sexy

Penny Dreadful

Dave! wrote: »

That documentary about the Clintons was on TV the other day, and Monica Lewinsky looked proper sexy

Just proves attraction is a personal thing. I could never for the life of me understand why Bill risked so much for her.

davet82

Glenn_Flinn wrote: »

Bill Clinton is a 33rd degree mason. He comes from the same lineage as Bush. The forbidden group already have total control over Ireland. Irish people are apathetic sheeple, they don't need a publicity stunt to gain total control.

you're wearing a tinfoil hat, aren't you? :rolleyes:

jill_valentine

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Fyp, she is more Bill's type.

WHY would you conjure this image. WHY!

Zebra3

Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy wrote: »

OK .......

Belgrade was committing genocide.SOMETHING had to be done they had a leader that really was aping Hitler and was a dictator who the poeple themselves then disposed off...he saved kosovo from ethinic cleansing the bombing stopped when beltrade stopped...he had to do something to deal with Saddam at least he did not go to war..

And those were not only Americas foreign polices other countries got involved too.

Never let the facts get in the way of a true story.... :rolleyes:

It was the Kosovars who were ethnicly cleansing Serbs in the Kosovo and it was a front for bombing one of Russia's traditional allies. The ethnic cleansing actually increased after Clinton ordered Belgrage to be bombed. Do some reading.

Deal with Saddam by starving kids, dropping depleted uranium on them, depriving them of medical treatment.

If that's not war..... :rolleyes:

Ben D Bus

I'd prefer Martin Sheen.

bodice ripper

I'd prefer William Shatner.


but, assuming we can't have him, Bill Clinton will do.

FloatingVoter

Mitt Romney will need a job soon. He's got the personality for the role.

bluecode

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm sure that makes all the victims of his foreign policy feel better.

Sure Germans enjoyed a great improvement in their standard of living under Hitler's first eight years in charge. :rolleyes:

Zebra you have failed the Godwin's law test. To whit:

In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.

Only 47 posts in. Well done!:rolleyes: Comparing Hitler to Clinton, that's remarkable.

All your previous comments are now invalidated.

ericl

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I'd prefer Martin Sheen.

I'd prefer Charlie Sheen, free coke and hookers for everyone.

Hande hoche!

ericl wrote: »

I'd prefer Charlie Sheen, free coke and hookers for everyone.

I vote for Emilio Estevez, he doesn't seem to be doing much these days.

davet82

Hande hoche! wrote: »

I vote for Emilio Estevez, he doesn't seem to be doing much these days.

ericl wrote: »

I'd prefer Charlie Sheen, free coke and hookers for everyone.

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I'd prefer Martin Sheen.

can we not just have the three of them take turns at it, i cant pick

sebastianlieken

+1 to having my vote! 100%

FloatingVoter

davet82 wrote: »

can we not just have the three of them take turns at it, i cant pick

The Sheen name is mentioned and next you're suggesting a three-way. Typical.:)

SEPT 23 1989

The last American we had as president did enough damage to the country

davet82

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The Sheen name is mentioned and next you're suggesting a three-way. Typical.:)

I smell a new sitcom on Comedy Centrel :cool:

Nippledragon

Idk, he seems like a nice fella but what could he do that one of our own could not?

davet82 wrote: »

idk he could end up giving mary lou the 'cigar treatment'

Good job its not M Harney, it would come out half eaten

Seedy Arling

Give your number one to Big Willy!

davet82

Nippledragon wrote: »

Idk, he seems like a nice fella but what could he do that one of our own could not?

he'd collect money for nothing in style :cool:

steddyeddy

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

I like Bill Clinton but not enough to vote for him if he ran for president. I don't think we could afford him and his wife tbh.

He would cost less than joe duffy in direct wages. Get rid of that talantless hack and problem solved.

Cathal O

While I admire the man, I think it would be a disaster. The primary role of the President is to protect the constitution. While I would think Bill would make a great Taoisech, a real knowledge, not just book knowledge of Irish culture an heritage is required for the post of President. The social - cultural differences between America and Ireland are too broad for Bill to simply learn, it is something you would need to be born into. How would it look internationally if our "1st citizen" was not raised in Ireland, does that not show how we are not confident in ourselves and that the argument for "Foreigners/Germany/ the ECB et all " being in charge of our domestic policies would be invalid if we voted in a person primarily known as being a bastion for America culture and history being appointed as our Irish President.

asherbassad

eth0 wrote: »

He's a salt of the earth lad. I'd vote for him

He's a fcuking criminal, like all US presidents. Comes off as a folksy dude but he's as sinister as the rest of them. Trashed social security in the US, and our good ol' Bill abolished the Glass-Steagall Act, you know, that pesky little bit of legislation that regulated banks and finance houses and prevented them from effectively gambling with other peoples' cash on sh!t like derivatives and credit default swaps.....oh and giving mortgages to those who are not qualified.
Yeah, he's salt of the earth alright.

He's looking gaunt though, these days. I'd say he has cancer. Probably won't make it to 2018.

FatherLen

the saxophone might spice up the national anthem.

asherbassad

BOHtox wrote: »

low unemployment, job growth, peaceful foreign policy, very low deficits especially compared to fiscal conservatives like Reagan and Bush etc.

:pac::pac:

asherbassad

periodictable wrote: »

I lived there during his presidencies and I can tell you that the US became a fairer and better society for its citizens due to his policies.

So did I and it didn't.

The cyclical recession of the early 90's ended under his presidency....but it was just that, a cyclical recession. It would have ended even if fcking jedward were in the White House.

Name one policy of his that, according to you, made the place a "better" and "fairer" society.

token101

Nippledragon wrote: »

Idk, he seems like a nice fella but what could he do that one of our own could not?

Cheat on the wife, lie like a mother****er and still have people (and I include myself in there!) love you as a down to earth guy! He'd school Bertie. I'd definitely vote for him anyway! Would he be the first person in modern times to be president of two different countries? Excluding the likes of Milosevic, places where there hasn't been a union or separation of some sort.

Piliger

periodictable wrote: »

I lived there during his presidencies and I can tell you that the US became a fairer and better society for its citizens due to his policies.

Agreed. Probably the best President of the USA for at least 100 years, alongside JFK.

purplepanda

Sir Pompous Righteousness wrote: »

There's actually no documentary evidence of him having Irish ancestry. You need to have at least one grandparent with Irish citizenship in order to claim Irish citizenship via heritage.

I'm sure there was an American fella who got an Irish passport from seven generations going back? As I remember he had to get birth certificates for every ancestor up to the generation born in Ireland for proof.

asherbassad

Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy wrote: »

OK .......

Belgrade was committing genocide.SOMETHING had to be done they had a leader that really was aping Hitler and was a dictator who the poeple themselves then disposed off...he saved kosovo from ethinic cleansing the bombing stopped when beltrade stopped...he had to do something to deal with Saddam at least he did not go to war..

And those were not only Americas foreign polices other countries got involved too.

Just like Saddam's men were turfing babies out of incubators and Gadaffi was doling out Viagra to his men so they could rape women and kids, and just like Ahmedinejad said he wants Israel "wiped off the map" and just like ...blah blah blah, quack quack.

Keep swallowing the propaganda there pal without doing a shred of your own research.

Bodhisopha

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Part of the interview with Piers Morgan was played this morning. Morgan wanted him as UK PM. Clinton didn't even bat an eye lid at that but went on to tell how if he bought a house in Ireland he could be our President, or seeing as how he was born in a part of the US once a part of the French Empire he could be President of France.

I bet Piers really loved that :pac: :pac: :pac: One in the eye for ya.

Not really one in the eye for Morgan who is quite proud of his own Irish heritage and often refers to himself as Irish.

Sir Pompous Righteousness

purplepanda wrote: »

I'm sure there was an American fella who got an Irish passport from seven generations going back? As I remember he had to get birth certificates for every ancestor up to the generation born in Ireland for proof.

No. In order to get Irish citizenship you have to have at least 1 grandparent who had Irish citizenship. The only other way to get Irish citizenship is through naturalisation, through marriage of an Irish citizen or if you were born in Ireland to at least one parent with Irish or British citizenship.

The only way for Clinton to get Irish citizenship is if the President of Ireland were to grant him honorary citizenship.

token101

asherbassad wrote: »

He's a fcuking criminal, like all US presidents. Comes off as a folksy dude but he's as sinister as the rest of them. Trashed social security in the US, and our good ol' Bill abolished the Glass-Steagall Act, you know, that pesky little bit of legislation that regulated banks and finance houses and prevented them from effectively gambling with other peoples' cash on sh!t like derivatives and credit default swaps.....oh and giving mortgages to those who are not qualified.
Yeah, he's salt of the earth alright.

He's looking gaunt though, these days. I'd say he has cancer. Probably won't make it to 2018.

The Glass Steagal act was effectively abolished years before that FFS! It had been ebbed away at for decades. He's far more benign than Bush, Nixon or Reagan ever was. And if Martin McGuinness can run after playing an active role in slaughtering 1000's of his own citizens that then I say we welcome Bill with open arms and a few hookers at the airport.

Zebra3

bluecode wrote: »

Zebra you have failed the Godwin's law test. To whit: Only 47 posts in. Well done!:rolleyes: Comparing Hitler to Clinton, that's remarkable.

All your previous comments are now invalidated.

No, my comments are not invalid, just because of what you quoted. They are perfectly valid.

Two politicans improved their domestic economies while murdering innocent people abroad-albeit on differing scales. A valid comparison, but by no means worthy of being deemed equal on a scale of evil.

Maybe you should try to engage in debate instead of hiding from it behind some crap quote.

MadYaker

Id vote for him but its not going to happen. He isn't eligible and his wife will probably run for the US presidency in 2016.

Piliger

MadYaker wrote: »

Id vote for him but its not going to happen. He isn't eligible and his wife will probably run for the US presidency in 2016.

+1. He was just kidding ... something some people struggle to grasp ...

Piliger

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Not really one in the eye for Morgan who is quite proud of his own Irish heritage and often refers to himself as Irish.

Oh gawwwwd ... can't we rescind that .. somehow ??????

who_me

Has anyone warned him in Ireland he can't use his cigars inside... sorry, I mean "indoors"?

asherbassad

token101 wrote: »

The Glass Steagal act was effectively abolished years before that FFS! It had been ebbed away at for decades. He's far more benign than Bush, Nixon or Reagan ever was. And if Martin McGuinness can run after playing an active role in slaughtering 1000's of his own citizens that then I say we welcome Bill with open arms and a few hookers at the airport.

I love the way people excuse a guy's catalogue of crimes and transgressions with the logic that he wasn't as bad as certain others :rolleyes:

wendell borton

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The last American we had as president did enough damage to the country

He had the damage done before he became president.

starbelgrade

Toshchiy Imperatritsy Vselennoy wrote: »

OK .......

Belgrade was committing genocide.

I was? :eek:

SamHarris

starbelgrade wrote: »

I was? :eek:

See Srebenica. There was numerous documents unearthed after that indicated a much wider policy- hence prosecutions in the Hague.

But of couse if Bill did nothing the same people would be complaining that he allowed a genocide despite having the means to end it easily and with minimum loss of life. No doubt the explanation would be they have no oil or that they were Muslims. Its so very easy for people to tailor their tiny knowledge of an historic event to mirror their petty politics.

FYI the US actions in Somalia is credited with saving up to 400,000,000 lives. At least according to the UN. Thats three times more than died in the Iraq war. But, yet again, there will be people who aruge it was negative. As thoughif a few warlords wish to starve hundreds of thousands of people well at least there were no US troops there, damn it.

The only huge blemish on his presidency was the Rwandan genocide where more died in 5 days than all US interventions/invasions of the last 3 decades combined. But then if it were stopped no doubt it would be added to the list of places where the US bombed apparantly without motivation. I have no doubt also if the US were as involved with the Genocidaire as the French were the entire atrocity would be lain on their laps nearly every time the place is mentioned. But then France is not the boogey man of the CTers and hard left.

token101

asherbassad wrote: »

I love the way people excuse a guy's catalogue of crimes and transgressions with the logic that he wasn't as bad as certain others :rolleyes:

Give us a list of his crimes then?

donvito99

asherbassad wrote: »

I love the way people excuse a guy's catalogue of crimes and transgressions with the logic that he wasn't as bad as certain others :rolleyes:

Thinly veiled support for Martin Mc Guinness.

jill_valentine

Piliger wrote: »

Oh gawwwwd ... can't we rescind that .. somehow ??????

We could hire Jeremy Clarkson to guard the airports, I suppose.