Iphone 5 on sale today

FrogMarch

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

No not taking the piss. Each to their own but I really don't find android phones easy to use. I am not into widgets , and file dropping and dragging and they are slower then and iphone imo.

My iphone broke a while back ago and I used the Samsung Galaxy S2 for a couple of weeks. Couldn't wait to get my iphone back. I just found the phone hard to use. Maybe it's cause iv always really used and iphone, but as I said each to their own.

I'd agree. Used the S3 as my main phone for a few months and I really wasn't mad about it at all. More due to the clunky UI than anything else. Was delighted to get my 4S back. Having said that, iPhone fanboy'ism is cringe-worthy. Nearly as tear inducing as Android users who claim some kind of superior technical knowledge over iPhone users.

the groutch

j2dab wrote: »

Imagine how much more efficient you could be if you could do your laptop's tasks 'on the go'

there are 7" Tablets for that which cost a fraction of the cost of an iphone

maxfresh

maxfresh wrote: »

I think they make a iphone for around 250 dollars

http://live.wsj.com/video/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-an-iphone-5/AB87CAE1-6081-4063-93AA-3EF50F8E5B64.html#!AB87CAE1-6081-4063-93AA-3EF50F8E5B64

that crazy :eek: apple could be afforable but choose not to be

if what steve would of wanted :mad:

the groutch

the groutch wrote: »

there are 7" Tablets for that which cost a fraction of the cost of an iphone

kindle fire hd comes to mind im so getting one for christmas

for watching my tv shows in bed instead of big ol labtop lol

Andy-Pandy

Sometimes I feel like the only person that owns no Apple products. I've had 3 iPods in my life, all broke within 18 months. Ill never buy anything from them again.

SunnyDub1

maxfresh wrote: »

the main thing that would put me off an iphone is itunes its just cr*p ,id like to just drag and drop music files as i like

I don't get this line ?
Not all music on an iphone has to be bought from itunes store. You can download from any site and save the file into itunes music file then simply sync your phone. There's really not much to it.

anncoates

theteal wrote: »

which town?

Do you realize how painfully unfunny this mullah joke is at this stage?

Ghandee

summerskin wrote: »

I do keep wondering about this. How exactly am I restricted on the iPhone? I can make calls, listen to music, browse the web, download tried and tested apps that won't kill the thing, take photos etc. What else would I want to do?

Download and keep YouTube clips
Free mp3 music downloads, (whole albums)
Change your dialers/launchers
Get your own mp3 ring tone (without having to hack or buy it)

Lots more, but the above were enough for me to ditch apple.

akelly02

How do you know if someone has an IPhone??

They will tell you.

PogMoThoin

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

I don't get this line ?
Not all music on an iphone has to be bought from itunes store. You can download from any site and save the file into itunes music file then simply sync your phone.

See, iTunes is a terrible POS software and Apple force you to use it.

Andy-Pandy

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

Sometimes I feel like the only person that owns no Apple products. I've had 3 iPods in my life, all broke within 18 months. Ill never buy anything from them again.

i have my ipod since i was 16 im 24 now still works only apple product i own i paid 250 for euro or pounds i cannot remeber

seamus

akelly02 wrote: »

How do you know if someone has doesn't have an IPhone??

They will tell you.

FYP

Hurricane Carter

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Here's a few:
Can't borrow some music from a friend.
Cant drag and drop files.
Can't put some music and videos on the phone without itunes without jailbreaking.
Can't play all audio and video formats, only what Apple allow.
Can't change keyboard.
Can't add widgets to homescreens
Can't charge anywhwere, miicro usb is everywhere now, I can go to anyones house and they have a means of connecting to and charging my phone.

Not to mention Apple now say you don't even own the music you buy on iTunes.

anncoates

I am a mug.

- sent from my iPhone

FrogMarch

How do you know if someone doesn't like the iPhone?

They will tell you.

Duggy747

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Not if you enjoy it. My justification to myself on buying things like this is that I used buy newspapers daily, but now all my media is consumed on my phone. And the beauty is it does so much more than just phone and media

I work in IT so I do be surrounded by machines and phones all over the place at work and at home, the funny thing is I have no personal use for a smartphone myself.

I fix smartphones so it does be amazing how fragile they are and how common a lot of problems are with them like headphone jacks failing an insane amount on certain generations of iPods & iPhones and the level that people smash the screens on whatever phones is ridiculous.

I've a shìtty Blackberry that I call the "tracking device" since it's only use is for people to contact me. I buy €5 credit once in a blue moon for it and text through webtext, so rare that I had o2 ringing me up asking me why wasn't I buying credit :pac:

I'd just have no use for myself, especially to justify me spending a fairly high price, but I understand the use others get out of them.

I do be amused by the whole Apple Vs. Android debacle, though.

j2dab

the groutch wrote: »

there are 7" Tablets for that which cost a fraction of the cost of an iphone

Is that a tablet in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

stevenmu

I hate Apple as much as any other right-thinking patriot, but this year the anti-hype has actually gotten worse than the hype itself.

I never thought this would be possible, but I think Android fanboys are now actually smugger and more self-righteous than Apple fanboys.

suicide_circus

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Ah the new iPoser phone.

+1
What ever happened to over priced heavily marketed stuff being uncool ? What happened to things being "too commercial"? Now things can't be commercial and generic enough. You kids today...

Hurricane Carter

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

While I slightly agree with the above, I'll argue that the iphone is a lot faster, more easier to use, offers a wider and better range of apps then any android phone I've ever used.

I don't want to be dragging and dropping files. A simple download and sync does it for me

Not faster in my experience. You can make the S3 EVEN faster if you wish, can't do it with iPhone.

Agree that it's easier and more polished than Android though.

Can download and sync with Android AND drag and drop .

akelly02

seamus wrote: »

FYP

i do not have an iphone

there, i said it.


Sent from my Nokia 3210

Fr_Dougal

Queued up since 5pm on Wednesday, picked up my new phone today. It's super awesome, I'll post unboxing pics soon; need sleep now.

Queued since 5pm wednesday? :pac:

Sappa

summerskin wrote: »

Plazaman wrote: »

Never mind that technobabble shít, please explain how you got a FREE Galaxy S3 then got a FREE Iphone5 a fortnight later? Where are all these freebies coming from and where can I sign up?

Just spend over €100k a year with a phone network and they'll send you anything you want. Simple. great craic for when i'm bored.

Ponytails much !

humanji

summerskin wrote: »

I stream a lot of porn.

For 100k, I think you're streaming all of the porn.

Duggy747 wrote: »

I'd need to have myself sectioned if I spent €679 on a fùcking phone.

€678 is your limit? :P

FrogMarch wrote: »

Your mate works in Vodafone and thinks iPhone owners are idiots? Interesting.

He said the people trying to buy the phone are idiots, and not necessarily because of the product they want to buy, but the way they're going about it.

stevenmu wrote: »

I hate Apple as much as any other right-thinking patriot, but this year the anti-hype has actually gotten worse than the hype itself.

I never thought this would be possible, but I think Android fanboys are now actually smugger and more self-righteous than Apple fanboys.

Nope, they're both a bunch of f*ckwits and as bad as each other. Next time I might make a sticky thread so they can all bitch and moan about which is better and leave the rest of us alone.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Queued up since 5pm on Wednesday, picked up my new phone today. It's super awesome, I'll post unboxing pics soon; need sleep now.

Unboxing pics? Seriously?

FrogMarch

humanji wrote: »

He said the people trying to buy the phone are idiots, and not necessarily because of the product they want to buy, but the way they're going about it.

It's just unfortunate that Vodafone staff have that attitude towards their customers. Do many of their staff badmouth their customers, I wonder.

Hurricane Carter

FrogMarch wrote: »

It's just unfortunate that Vodafone staff have that attitude towards their customers. Do many of their staff badmouth their customers, I wonder.

You can't blame the company. People are people. I'm sure you'd have opinions on certain types if you worked in VF.

Edit: Or opinions where ever you work!

maxfresh

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

I don't get this line ?
Not all music on an iphone has to be bought from itunes store. You can download from any site and save the file into itunes music file then simply sync your phone. There's really not much to it.

Having to save the file in the itunes format is the annoying part and i found itunes a buggy piece of software ,nearly everytime there was an update something would go wrong

seagullsontour

64gb for me whoever gets the cheapest one is a fool if your gonna spend that much might aswell get the best one:rolleyes:

Hurricane Carter

seagullsontour wrote: »

64gb for me whoever gets the cheapest one is a fool if your gonna spend that much might aswell get the best one:rolleyes:

Then buy a GS3 and have up to 80GB. Obviously space = better. :rolleyes:

FrogMarch

I Am Kong! wrote: »

You can't blame the company. People are people. I'm sure you'd have opinions on certain types if you worked in VF.

Probably but I'd imagine keeping those opinions to yourself, or at least inside company walls, would be the most professional course of action. For what it's worth, I agree with him. But I don't work for VF.

summerskin

humanji wrote: »

For 100k, I think you're streaming all of the porn.

it was a joke. The €100k is through my company.



only €98k of it is for porn use.

muppetkiller

As someone who has had both Android and iphone 'smart-phones' I can say that both have their pros and cons but I will not be buying apple again purely on the fact that their handsets are nearly programmed to break down about a week after your 12 month warranty expires.

Not a fan of itunes either due to the limited format support and hate mp4 video as most TV's don't accept that format.
Also If you've a massive music library your machine grinds to a halt on initial load.

But for the average Joe iphones are excellent if you can get them for free on a Contract...But take a 12 month contract as you'll end up needing to buy a new or repair your current one in 12 months

summerskin

Ghandee wrote: »

Download and keep YouTube clips
Free mp3 music downloads, (whole albums)
Change your dialers/launchers
Get your own mp3 ring tone (without having to hack or buy it)

Lots more, but the above were enough for me to ditch apple.

Rarely use youtube, find the SkyGo and Netflix apps work better on my iPhone than S3 though.

Don't illegally download music.

I like the dialer. What more do you need to dial a fúcking number?

Launchers? The App tells me what it is and I click on it. Easy.

Got my own ringtones using Ringtone Maker or whatever the hell that app is. Maximo Park, Death Cab For Cutie etc all the way, assigned to personal contact tones.

Ultimately though, it's the fact that the email on S3 is terrible for using on MS exchange. I don't want to have to manually refresh subfolders. It can mean i miss important emails, so iPhone wins that one hands down.

FrogMarch

muppetkiller wrote: »

But for the average Joe iphones are excellent

This is the smug attitude that really grates me. Far from being an average Joe, I develop software for both iOS and Android. I've been tech-savvy since I was a kid and I'm a professional programmer. Yet I prefer iOS to Android.

Seriously folks - get off the Android high-horses. Of course your own preferences are down to you and I can understand why some people prefer using Android. But calling those who prefer iPhone "average Joe's" is condescending and, quite frankly, wrong.

humanji

FrogMarch wrote: »

It's just unfortunate that Vodafone staff have that attitude towards their customers. Do many of their staff badmouth their customers, I wonder.

You'll rarely find a business which deals with the public that actually respects the public.

FrogMarch

humanji wrote: »

You'll rarely find a business which deals with the public that actually respects the public.

Um... plenty of businesses do. If I were a middle or senior manager in a large company and I overheard a member of staff badmouthing customers to his mates down the pub, he'd be sacked - disciplined at best. Just saying.

humanji

FrogMarch wrote: »

This is the smug attitude that really grates me. Far from being an average Joe, I develop software for both iOS and Android. I've been tech-savvy since I was a kid and I'm a professional programmer. Yet I prefer iOS to Android.

Seriously folks - get off the Android high-horses. Of course your own preferences are down to you and I can understand why some people prefer using Android. But calling those who prefer iPhone "average Joe's" is condescending and, quite frankly, wrong.

I think you're missing what he is saying and taking offence at it (for some reason. After all, it's only a phone). If someone who isn't a developer and isn't particularly tech savvy, ie an average joe, the iphone is a better choice as it's easier to use.

The Android/iPhone debate only means something to people who notice the differences, and even then it's down to personal taste.

humanji

FrogMarch wrote: »

Um... plenty of businesses do. If I were a middle or senior manager in a large company and I overheard a member of staff badmouthing customers to his mates down the pub, he'd be sacked - disciplined at best. Just saying.

And he'd sue you and win for unfair dismissal. Which doesn't change the point I made that businesses dealing with the public rarely respect them. And remember the guy above didn't go shouting it to the world. He told his friend who posted it on the internet. We don't know who the friend is, or where the shop is. So it doesn't make a difference.

FrogMarch

humanji wrote: »

I think you're missing what he is saying and taking offence at it (for some reason. After all, it's only a phone). If someone who isn't a developer and isn't particularly tech savvy, ie an average joe, the iphone is a better choice as it's easier to use.

Fair enough. I would argue that both operating systems are probably fine for the average Joe though in fairness.

humanji wrote: »

The Android/iPhone debate only means something to people who notice the differences, and even then it's down to personal taste.

Precisely. But there's certainly a smug attitude amongst some Android users that they use Android but of their superior technical knowledge. Which, to me, is just as painful to listen to as rabid iPhone fanboy'ism.

As you say, they're just phones. But they sure do make peoples' attitudes stink.

humanji

FrogMarch wrote: »

Fair enough. I would argue that both operating systems are probably fine for the average Joe though in fairness.



Precisely. But there's certainly a smug attitude amongst some Android users that they use Android but of their superior technical knowledge. Which, to me, is just as painful to listen to as rabid iPhone fanboy'ism.

As you say, they're just phones. But they sure do make peoples' attitudes stink.

I'm on the fence with the whole issue and switch phones back and forth depending on which suits my needs when I go to buy one. So, form this position I see that both groups of fanboys are just as bad as each other. When Apple release something, the android fanboys jump up and try to shout them down and when a new Android phone comes out, the Apple fanboys jump up. It's the circle of life. With less lions. And Elton John isn't singing.

FrogMarch

humanji wrote: »

And he'd sue you and win for unfair dismissal.

Doubt it. I'm pretty sure most contracts of employment (certainly the ones that I have with my employees) prohibit that type of discussion outside of the workplace entirely.

humanji wrote: »

Which doesn't change the point I made that businesses dealing with the public rarely respect them.

The businesses themselves or some of the employees?

humanji wrote: »

And remember the guy above didn't go shouting it to the world. He told his friend who posted it on the internet. We don't know who the friend is, or where the shop is. So it doesn't make a difference.

No? Our contract's up soon with Vodafone. While it may well happen, I've never heard similar anecdotes coming from friends of O2, Meteor, etc. staff. My company spends tens of thousands with VF each year. But hey, thanks for the story/heads-up. Must go shopping around again soon

Cienciano

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

I don't get this line ?
Not all music on an iphone has to be bought from itunes store. You can download from any site and save the file into itunes music file then simply sync your phone. There's really not much to it.

Some people don't like software like itunes on their computer. I had it for a few years as a player and didn't like it, but in fairness, it was about 7-8 years ago and it's probably better now. I prefer the drag and drop method.
This is just personal preference, no one can can say a phone is crap because of either, it's whatever the individual prefers. The plus for an android phone is it can be synced like the iphone, but you also have the option of dragging and dropping with zero software installed on your computer. With an iphone you have itunes (and probably some other apps) but that's it. If you like itunes like you, this isn't a problem.
I don't really use my phone for music, it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me, but I do like to have the drag and drop option.

seamus wrote: »

It's just plain incorrect, iCloud never had 20GB storage for free, it was given to some mobileme users when they were migrated to iCloud.

Biggins's blog could give the Daily Mail a run for its money in terms of incorrect facts and sensationalism.

The anti-Apple hysteria tbh is sadder than the people queueing up for their phones. If you've no interest in the products, ignore them!

Don't forget the "defend the iphone at all costs" brigade. They mightn't queue up outside a shop overnight, but they'll defend their iphone to the hilt if anyone dares say anything negative about it.

Ghandee

Ghandee wrote: »

Download and keep YouTube clips
Free mp3 music downloads, (whole albums)
Change your dialers/launchers
Get your own mp3 ring tone (without having to hack or buy it)

Lots more, but the above were enough for me to ditch apple.

I have downloaded about 4 youtube clips in my life from the laptop why on earth would I need to do it from my phone, just use the laptop for it.

Its just a blatant lie saying you cannot put free downloads on an iPhone. One song on my iPhone was paid for all the rest were downloaded from torrents.

I dont even know what a launcher/dialer is so it certainly isn't effecting me.

Musical ringtones are for children, a normal phone ringing ring tone is all thats needed.

seagullsontour wrote: »

64gb for me whoever gets the cheapest one is a fool if your gonna spend that much might aswell get the best one:rolleyes:

I only use about 8Gb of the 16Gb on my 4s whats the point in spending 200 euro more for a heap of memory I will never use. Id be happy to spend less and get an 8Gb version.

floggg

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

Sometimes I feel like the only person that owns no Apple products. I've had 3 iPods in my life, all broke within 18 months. Ill never buy anything from them again.

Funny, I went through 4 or 5 MP3 players before getting my first iPod - a classic. I don't use it that much these days as have an iPhone, but 5 years later its still going strong.

For me, android is missing a decent music manager. Some people like to drag and drop, but I like to have my music organised, synced, and keep track of play counts and ratings and use smart playlists.

While that is possible with Android, it's only by jumping through a few hoops and using a few different apps. After 2 years of android I got sick of all that. I switched to an iPhone and now my music is automatically kept up to date between iPhone, iPad and laptop (at least stuff bought through iTunes which is where I generally get my music, even when using android).

Given that music is what I use my phone for most of the time, iPhone made better sense than staying with Android.

That said, when you see the features the Galaxy S3 has that the iPhone 5 is lacking (NFC functionality and sharing options in particular) it doesn't make me too eager to upgrade.

My contract is up after Xmas. I think I'll wait until the new Galaxy S comes out though before I claim any upgrade.

thecornflake

Valerie Tart Graphology wrote: »

I only use about 8Gb of the 16Gb on my 4s whats the point in spending 200 euro more for a heap of memory I will never use. Id be happy to spend less and get an 8Gb version.

If you go for the 64Gb you would have 54Gb more memory to tell everyone about.

Fizman

I got a Samsung Galaxy S-3 a few days ago free of charge from my boss. Awesome, awesome phone. Company pays the bill too. Cha-ching.

FrogMarch

Cienciano wrote: »

Don't forget the "defend the iphone at all costs" brigade. They mightn't queue up outside a shop overnight, but they'll defend their iphone to the hilt if anyone dares say anything negative about it.

I don't think iPhone users get argumentative when people say they don't like the iPhone for whatever reason. It's more a case of the "I use Android and I'm better" brigade getting iPhone users' backs up.

It has very little to do with the phone. Ultimately most people are narcissistic creatures. When some smug idiot comes along and tells you your taste in something is wrong or your knowledge of something is limited, etc. there's always a visceral, defensive reaction.

At the end of the day, the vast majority of people who engage in these debates know sweet f**k all about technology, relatively speaking.

floggg

FrogMarch wrote: »

humanji wrote: »

You'll rarely find a business which deals with the public that actually respects the public.

Um... plenty of businesses do. If I were a middle or senior manager in a large company and I overheard a member of staff badmouthing customers to his mates down the pub, he'd be sacked - disciplined at best. Just saying.

The business as a whole (in this case Vodafone) probably have the greatest respect for their cu$tom€r$.

But front line retail staff who have to deal with all the crazies, oddballs, pricks and idiots will obviously be jaded by having had to deal with same crazies, oddballs, pricks and idiots.

Anybody who has ever worked front line retail or customer service will have these kind of stories to tell. It doesn't mean they hate the customers, but they will have a good bitch and moan about the stupid ones who make their jobs difficult.

seamus

Cienciano wrote: »

Some people don't like software like itunes on their computer. I had it for a few years as a player and didn't like it, but in fairness, it was about 7-8 years ago and it's probably better now. I prefer the drag and drop method.

It's probably better now. I managed to avoid the original iTunes as I went with drag-and-drop creative MP3 players in the early 2000s. I only started using iTunes when I got an iPhone, and while it has its foibles, it's pretty good. Not buggy at all, and the method for transferring music is as good as drag-and-drop. You literally drag the music onto the device and sync it.
It's worked out better for me than the old drag-and-drop setup because it automatically organises my music into folders by Artist and Album whereas previously I was far less organised about it.

I don't miss the drag-and-drop option at all tbh, using iTunes has meant that I don't have 3 or 4 copies of songs on my phone and I don't have random names coming up for songs because the file has a weird name, which is what I always found with drag-and-drop players.

I can totally understand people's reluctance to use a proprietary piece of software, especially the lack of being able to drag off the device. But tbh this is not something I have ever used anyway.