Irish Times allege FAI corruption

Zebra3

Tut, tut.

Honest John and one of his buddies sticking their noses into an independent process.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0928/1224324534441.html

SOCCER LICENSING COMMITTEE A LETTER from the FAI’s chief executive, John Delaney, and its president, Paddy McCaul, addressed to Independent Licensing Committee chairman Derek Dee in which they suggest the committee should have attached conditions to the granting of Limerick’s licence to participate in the league this year appears to severely undermine the association’s repeated claims regarding the integrity of a process it has always steadfastly insisted it did not interfere with.

In the letter, dated March 20th of this year, which has been seen by The Irish Times, the contribution made by the licensing committee through its work is acknowledged and its independence hailed as a virtue before reference is made to the fact its decisions “have to be managed ultimately by the board on an ongoing basis”.

More at the link above.

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It's been long suspected that the licencing process isn't as independent as the FAI would like everyone to think.

Pudsy33

Does this really come as a surprise?

Zebra3

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Does this really come as a surprise?

No, but it proves that certain FAI officials have consistently lied about the process being independent.

In the real world that would involve resignations.

GavRedKing

Zebra3 wrote: »

No, but it proves that certain FAI officials have consistently lied about the process being independent.

In the real world that would involve resignations.

Sadly, not within the FAI.

padd b1975

It looks like the FAI still have a bee in their bonnet over the Barcelona Friendly.

user2011

Ah the good old paper trail been catching many a stupid cnut out :pac:

Peppa Pig

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Does this really come as a surprise?

It shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who has seen the licensing process for the last few years.

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Dear Leader has done nothing wrong.

markesmith

Any point even asking if this will be investigated further?

Fair play to the Irish Times for exposing

Gavin "shels"

Cans of beer for all...

super_furry

Look at all the clubs with licences who have gone to the wall in the last few years. It's almost impossible to imagine that the FAI weren't exerting pressure on the committee to get them through.

SantryRed

Thread open for 8 hours and there's been 10 replies. Says it all.

Prick!

The OP is rather difficult to understand. What is the process for licencing and what is being alleged?

Lawrence1895

Here is how we deal with corruption in football in Germany

homerjay2005

Prick! wrote: »

The OP is rather difficult to understand. What is the process for licencing and what is being alleged?

i dont think anything is being alleged apart from the FAI saying they dont get involved when on this occasion they have done by asking for conditions to be put on Limericks application.

or is there more to it? have they actually done anything wrong?

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homerjay2005 wrote: »

have they actually done anything wrong?

Yeah, your mate John has been insisting for years that the licencing process is an independent process, with no involvement from the FAI, he says they don't tell the Independent Licencing Committee what to do, they don't advise them, they don't exert pressure to allow, or not allow, or put stipulations, on the granting of licences.

This letter, from him to the licencing people, shows that he is a liar.

Just because he bought you a couple of beers, and you have his tie framed in your kitchen, doesn't mean he's not despicable.

Zebra3

Prick! wrote: »

The OP is rather difficult to understand. What is the process for licencing and what is being alleged?

The FAI set up an independent panel consisting of three people to deal with licence applications of all clubs looking to play in the LoI since it was taken over by the FAI in 2007.

The FAI, after appointing those people to the panel, under their own rules and regulations, are to leave the panel to deal with the awarding (or not) of the relevant licences and are not permitted to interfere in anyway whatsoever.

According to the report in the link to the Times article in the OP, John Delaney and another FAI official have broken the FAI's regulation on non-interference with the independent licence committee.

I assume this leaves the FAI open to legal action.

Prick!

Zebra3 wrote: »

The FAI set up an independent panel consisting of three people to deal with licence applications of all clubs looking to play in the LoI since it was taken over by the FAI in 2007.

The FAI, after appointing those people to the panel, under their own rules and regulations, are to leave the panel to deal with the awarding (or not) of the relevant licences and are not permitted to interfere in anyway whatsoever.

According to the report in the link to the Times article in the OP, John Delaney and another FAI official have broken the FAI's regulation on non-interference with the independent licence committee.

I assume this leaves the FAI open to legal action.

What would be in it for the FAI to get involved?

celtictiger32

time to take the tie off again john, this time to jump on the dole queue....

overhaul of the fai in order. lets bring in people that actually realise we have a league here and show it some respect.

Pro. F

SantryRed wrote: »

Thread open for 8 hours and there's been 10 replies. Says it all.

To be honest, I'm suffering from something like compassion fatigue with this. We all know the FAI are corrupt and harmful to football in this country. Delaney and his cronies need to be kicked out and maybe the clubs need to run their league themselves (if that's possible). But what is there to say here? There isn't even a debate going to happen on here because everybody is in agreement.

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The hell does "compassion fatigue" even mean?

Christ almighty, in most other countries a corrupt football association would be big news, but as long as Premier League footballers are being racist towards each other, no-one really goves a shít.

Do you have "racist fatigue"? I'd imagine it's the same for you in that regard.

But no, you are all over them threads.

Hmmmmm.

Zebra3

Prick! wrote: »

What would be in it for the FAI to get involved?

A grudge against Limerick?

Regardless, he had no right to interfere as per the FAI's regulations.

The FAI are quick enough to fine clubs, yet it seems like leading FAI officials don't have to pay attention to the rules. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm off to Tolka where some jobsworth from Abbotstown will there with his/her folder jotting crap down during the game with the hope of finding something to fine both clubs over.

homerjay2005

Des wrote: »

Christ almighty, in most other countries a corrupt football association would be big news, but as long as Premier League footballers are being racist towards each other, no-one really goves a shít.

errm what? football is corrupt in every organisation and every country...its corrupt form the "top" down...if ye think the FAI putting a 3 logo on jerseys and telling a committee to keep an eye on a clubs licence is corrupt, you should start getting to know about how football is run across the globe.

we are mother Theresa in this country compared to the rest of them.

Pro. F

Des wrote: »

The hell does "compassion fatigue" even mean?

Christ almighty, in most other countries a corrupt football association would be big news, but as long as Premier League footballers are being racist towards each other, no-one really goves a shít.

Do you have "racist fatigue"? I'd imagine it's the same for you in that regard.

But no, you are all over them threads.

Hmmmmm.

Try googling it or would that be too hard for you? Much more fun to rant and rave and act like an immature surly prick, I'm sure.

The fact that the FAI is corrupt is not big news in this country. Everybody knows they are corrupt. And since that annoying Rovers fan who used to always defend the FAI is banned now, there is nobody to cause a debate about this on here any more. Without a debate a thread isn't going to generate a lot of posts.

Edit: Everybody except Homer it seems.

eigrod

Probably has no connection whatsoever with the issues the FAI had with Limerick arranging a money spinning friendly v Barcelona, which they (the FAI) ultimately vetoed........no sir, no connection whatsoever !!!!

Essien

So why did the FAI have a problem with Limerick in the first place? (going back to that proposed friendly)

eigrod

Essien wrote: »

So why did the FAI have a problem with Limerick in the first place? (going back to that proposed friendly)

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/limerick-take-fai-to-court-over-barcelona-friendly-row-70816-Jan2011/

"At the time, the FAI insisted that third-party agreements mean it could not sanction games in stadia with capacities over 15,000, that the FAI itself was in negotiations with Barcelona over a visit to the Aviva Stadium, and that the date was not compatible with the Airtricity League fixture timetable."

Cienciano

Gavin shels wrote: »

Cans of beer for all...

The really pathetic and sad thing is, that is actually working on some people

Mr.Nice Guy

Have the FAI said anything in response?

Augmerson

Everybody at the top in the FAI, as far as I can see, needs to go. There needs to be a complete cull. Yeah, John Delaney is fierce sound out, buying drinks for everybody, sure of course he would be when he is on more money than the US President, plenty of cash to splash. That says it all there. The state of the domestic game is shocking. As far as I can see, all that the FAI has ever cared about is the international team and Lansdowne Road/Aviva.

I dunno. I could be wrong. I could be talking ****e.

dfx-

Zebra3 wrote: »

I assume this leaves the FAI open to legal action.

But by who...

dan1895

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Have the FAI said anything in response?

Don't be silly, they're keeping their heads down until it all blows over.

Zebra3

Augmerson wrote: »

Everybody at the top in the FAI, as far as I can see, needs to go. There needs to be a complete cull. Yeah, John Delaney is fierce sound out, buying drinks for everybody, sure of course he would be when he is on more money than the US President, plenty of cash to splash. That says it all there. The state of the domestic game is shocking. As far as I can see, all that the FAI has ever cared about is the international team and Lansdowne Road/Aviva.

I dunno. I could be wrong. I could be talking ****e.

You're not. You're spot on.

dfx- wrote: »

But by who...

Limerick FC, as they have been discriminated against in their process to secure a licence to play in the LoI.

magma69

As a Limerick fan whose team are on the cusp of promotion, this clear vendetta the FAI have against Limerick is worrying.

There needs to be a complete overhaul of the organisation. Delaney earns almost half a million a year. It's absolute madness. Three quarters of that should be going back into the grass roots and promotion of the sport in this country.

The question is, what can we, as fans do to change the rotten corrupt organisation that is holding back the sport from flourishing in this country?

Zebra3

magma69 wrote: »

As a Limerick fan whose team are on the cusp of promotion, this clear vendetta the FAI have against Limerick is worrying.

There needs to be a complete overhaul of the organisation. Delaney earns almost half a million a year. It's absolute madness. Three quarters of that should be going back into the grass roots and promotion of the sport in this country.

The question is, what can we, as fans do to change the rotten corrupt organisation that is holding back the sport from flourishing in this country?

Stop going to Ireland home games until Delaney is gone.