Manchester United vs Spurs match thread Sat 29 Sept.K/O 17.30 ESPN.

BorneTobyWilde

United loses 2 of next 3 on paper,
two tough away games,

PhlegmyMoses

No real need to report Sgt Pepper. His posts are fairly innocuous.

Sgt Pepper 64

FutureGuy wrote: »

Just report his posts and let the mods do their jobs.

report away - cos theres nothing to report.
And if you are from the future, surely you knew the outcome anyway?

RVD420

The 64 could be a reference to the song "When I'm 64" from SPLHCB.

Cryptic....;)

Will I Amnt

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

United loses 2 of next 3 on paper,
two tough away games,

Good job the game is not played on paper

adox

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I could actually BE 50 you know, or I could have just lied!

Anyway delighted to wind up Utd fans who are\were so quick to slag off Terry whenever the chance presents itself. Of course nothing to do with them at all

Top of the League to ya!

Yeah I mean the cheek of us having a go at a guy found guilty of making racist comments to another player, the cheek of us! Says a lot about you that you find it a source of amusement.

Anyway out of respect to the other Utd supporters on this thread this is the last time I quote you or respond to you.

PhlegmyMoses

Now off to watch Europe take a trouncing from the US to compound a miserable sporting weekend so far.

gary nevillevil

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

report away - cos theres nothing to report.
And if you are from the future, surely you knew the outcome anyway?

sgt i like some of your posts,
BUT as arnie would say "That's why I'm going to kill you last"

Hank Scorpio

Nani was rubbish, I know he scored but he put about 10 crosses in when spurs were really under the heat and not one of them cleared the first man. Does my nut in, wouldn't care if he was sold at this stage

Will I Amnt

I don't know why people are getting so upset with Sgt Peppers posts. I find them as hilarious as they are crazy.

Kiith

It just feels weird to be happy after playing Utd :P

mike65

Well done to Spurs, that's a proverbial monkey off your back! I'm sure the last league win at OT was in black & white.

b757

I wonder will Lindegaard get dropped for leaving in a few easy goals..
Who plays next? Johnstone?

Terrible first half for us, great second half in terms of possession and chances, but that's all. Giggs should retire, every time i see him in the team now i think we are going to be in trouble.

Sgt Pepper 64

mike65 wrote: »

Well done to Spurs, that's a proverbial monkey off your back! I'm sure the last league win at OT was in black & white.

Scary stuff, maybe AVB is a decent manager after all

Thrill

Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 3-2 defeat by Spurs: "Four minutes of added time is an insult to the game. It's a disgrace."

I didn't see the game so I don't know. No utd supporters here seem to be complaining.

Is he right?

adox

b757 wrote: »

I wonder will Lindegaard get dropped for leaving in a few easy goals..
Who plays next? Johnstone?

Terrible first half for us, great second half in terms of possession and chances, but that's all. Giggs should retire, every time i see him in the team now i think we are going to be in trouble.

I didn't think he was particularly at fault for any of the goals and would be the last port of call in an inquest into how the goals were conceded.

I'd still have De Gea ahead of him though, no doubt.

Did Fergie give a post match interview? LOF turned over to another match after the Sours players interviews.

Optimalprimerib

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Kiith wrote: »

Disgraceful my hole. We scored 3 goals ffs. Yeah, we were kept in our end for the last 30 minutes, but it's Utd at home, and they we constantly pressing.

Either way, fair play to Utd for making it bloody difficult. Really entertaining, but i need a lie down now

Of course it's disgraceful. They were incredibly lucky not to concede any of those chances. Parking the bus does not work, at all. The amount of times a Spurs player had a chance to take the ball forwards and relieve pressure and none of them took responsibility.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade here. I just dislike seeing teams parking the bus because it achieves nothing. Luck and poor finishing kept Spurs in the game this evening, not that second half performance.

In fairness it has not been the first time spurs were 2 goals up on united and ended up getting beat. It was not pretty but in 6 or 7 months time, it will be the result that counts. I was 100% certain of a repeat of the last results. Delighted they held on

Sgt Pepper 64

"The wait is over. It's been 26 games without a win at Old Trafford for Spurs since 1989. And no win at all against United since 2001- but now they have beaten them at their own home. AVB has won three in a row and this is the biggest win of his Premier League career. Man United lose at home for the first time in 2012 in the league. What a game."

irelandspurs

Yid army

IvySlayer

adox wrote: »

I didn't think he was particularly at fault for any of the goals and would be the last port of call in an inquest into how the goals were conceded.

I'd still have De Gea ahead of him though, no doubt.

Did Fergie give a post match interview? LOF turned over to another match after the Sours players interviews.

He was moaning about not enough extra time was added, so I switched over. Deflecting as usual.

Mr.Crinklewood

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

"The wait is over. It's been 26 games without a win at Old Trafford for Spurs since 1989. And no win at all against United since 2001- but now they have beaten them at their own home. AVB has won three in a row and this is the biggest win of his Premier League career. Man United lose at home for the first time in 2012 in the league. What a game."

Congrats. Always thought you were a Chelsea fan !!

Peppa Pig

Thrill wrote: »

Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 3-2 defeat by Spurs: "Four minutes of added time is an insult to the game. It's a disgrace."

I didn't see the game so I don't know. No utd supporters here seem to be complaining.

Is he right?

As right as he has been for the last 20 years of Fergie time. 4 mins was about right

PhlegmyMoses

Thrill wrote: »

Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 3-2 defeat by Spurs: "Four minutes of added time is an insult to the game. It's a disgrace."

I didn't see the game so I don't know. No utd supporters here seem to be complaining.

Is he right?

It could probably have been more, all subs used, a couple of stoppages with Gallas changing contacts etc but nothing to complain about. Fergie is just deflecting here.

gary nevillevil

Thrill wrote: »

Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 3-2 defeat by Spurs: "Four minutes of added time is an insult to the game. It's a disgrace."

I didn't see the game so I don't know. No utd supporters here seem to be complaining.

Is he right?

Shocker horror
Fergie unhappy after defeat :pac:

flyswatter

Peppa Pig wrote: »

As right as he has been for the last 20 years of Fergie time. 4 mins was about right

He got 4 and a half anyway.

Melion

Jesus Christ, the non United / Spurs fans are embarassing in here.

darced

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Pacing Mule

noodler wrote: »

If there is any certainty in football - it is a Spurs collapse at Old Trafford.

As a spurs fan I would have agreed with you at the time.

Inspector Coptoor

Was at the game in the East stand.

Only one goal down our end.

Disdaining result.
A draw would have been fair given how United dominated the 2nd half.

Scholes was fantastic.
Giggs should have been taken off after 20 mins. His pace is completely gone.

As for the injury time, there were two subs made in injury time so that should have been 30s per sub.
5 mins should have been played, maybe even 6.

Fair play to spurs, took advantage of some very sloppy defending.

United are being carved open too easily these days.

darced

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Cantona's Collars

Another game with United being unable to put in a decent performance for 90 mins.It's happening far too often now-we play well in spurts.

The other night with the 'kids' in the team we attacked & played with speed & movement but for 45 mins today it was back to the "zombie football" again.Teams are finding it too easy to play against us now,flood midfield & get tight to Carrick,that nullifies 90% of our play through midfield.If he can't get the ball to anyone such as Scholes then everything grinds to a halt.Our play is too predictable,Carrick-Scholes-winger,cross that 99% of the time hits the first man.....repeat.We bought Kagawa yet the team don't know how to use him,he must have been worn out having to drop so deep in an attempt to get possession & when he did there was nobody from midfield running past him.We must have the most static midfield in the league.God be with the team of the 90's where we had runners from all angles and teams were terrified of us.

Prick!

We need someone to replace Scholes.

I didn't think Modric was worth the money, but my god now I'm thinking he would have been well worth it.

Melion

Prick! wrote: »

We need someone to replace Scholes.

I didn't think Modric was worth the money, but my god now I'm thinking he would have been well worth it.

Not what United need. Javi Martinez would have been perfect.

Prick!

Melion wrote: »

Not what United need. Javi Martinez would have been perfect.

I disagree.

Why is it that when Scholes is not playing we struggle. Carrick is fine to play beside someone like Scholes.

Even City have Barry, just someone to play some simple passes to the right players.

Melion

Prick! wrote: »

I disagree.

Why is it that when Scholes is not playing we struggle. Carrick is fine to play beside someone like Scholes.

Even City have Barry, just someone to play some simple passes to the right players.

Because a midfield of Scholes/Carrick or Modric/Carrick will still get overrun by any half decent midfield. United need a defensive midfielder who is there to break up play, win the ball back and lay it off to a Scholes/Modric. I said it before, Mascherano would be absolutely perfect for United. Its ok to have a Scholes/Modric partnership with Carrick when you have a lot of posession, not so much when the other team can actually play football as witnessed today and last week against Liverpool.

Prick!

Melion wrote: »

Because a midfield of Scholes/Carrick or Modric/Carrick will still get overrun by any half decent midfield. United need a defensive midfielder who is there to break up play, win the ball back and lay it off to a Scholes/Modric. I said it before, Mascherano would be absolutely perfect for United. Its ok to have a Scholes/Modric partnership with Carrick when you have a lot of posession, not so much when the other team can actually play football as witnessed today and last week against Liverpool.

What about City?

They have

----Toure----Barry----

Silva---Aguero---Nasri

---

Tevez

None of them are a 3rd midfielder really, not more than Kagawa anyways.

PhlegmyMoses

Melion wrote: »

Because a midfield of Scholes/Carrick or Modric/Carrick will still get overrun by any half decent midfield. United need a defensive midfielder who is there to break up play, win the ball back and lay it off to a Scholes/Modric. I said it before, Mascherano would be absolutely perfect for United. Its ok to have a Scholes/Modric partnership with Carrick when you have a lot of posession, not so much when the other team can actually play football as witnessed today and last week against Liverpool.

Fergie probably wouldn't play Mascherano. He doesn't seem to like midfielders who offer very little going forwards.

killwill

Melion wrote: »

Prick! wrote: »

We need someone to replace Scholes.

I didn't think Modric was worth the money, but my god now I'm thinking he would have been well worth it.

Not what United need. Javi Martinez would have been perfect.

Great player. His attitude is meant to suck ass though.

Melion

Prick! wrote: »

What about City?

They have

----Toure----Barry----

Silva---Aguero---Nasri

---

Tevez

None of them are a 3rd midfielder really, not more than Kagawa anyways.

I didnt say anything about a 3rd midfielder
City have both Barry and Yaya who are well able to break up play, throw Javi Garcia in there who would be better in that department than both of those mentioned, just like De Jong before him.

United need someone like that to replace Carrick, then you get the creative midfielder to replace Scholes. Nick Powell wont be the answer, Anderson isnt the answer, Cleverly isnt the answer.

Melion

killwill wrote: »

Great player. His attitude is meant to suck ass though.

Went to Bayern for €40m so i dont think he is an option for United anymore

Prick!

Melion wrote: »

I didnt say anything about a 3rd midfielder
City have both Barry and Yaya who are well able to break up play, throw Javi Garcia in there who would be better in that department than both of those mentioned, just like De Jong before him.

United need someone like that to replace Carrick, then you get the creative midfielder to replace Scholes. Nick Powell wont be the answer, Anderson isnt the answer, Cleverly isnt the answer.

You said Utd get over run in the middle.

Carrick is apt at breaking up play. Has pretty good positioning.

Scholes natural position isn't deep. He only plays there now because he doesn't have the legs. Modric plays in this position because he is good there.

Melion

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Fergie probably wouldn't play Mascherano. He doesn't seem to like midfielders who offer very little going forwards.

And therein lies the problem. As i said earlier, its all well and good playing Scholes and Carrick against teams who go to OT to park the bus, you dont need a Mascherano style player. But last week Liverpool passed around United with ease, Barca have done it through the last few years, Arsenal will do it this season, I'd imagine Chelsea will be able to do it. If you have a "destroyer" in there then it doesnt allow that to happen.

Melion

Prick! wrote: »

You said Utd get over run in the middle.

Carrick is apt at breaking up play. Has pretty good positioning.

Scholes natural position isn't deep. He only plays there now because he doesn't have the legs. Modric plays in this position because he is good there.

It doesnt bother me in the slightest obviously but if a team is going to rely on Modric to sit deep and make tackles/break up play then it wont end well for them.

Was Bales celebration a píss take out of the fans who take photos at matches?

Just watching the highlights now, every time it pans into the crowd theres a few eejits videoing the game.

Watch the game ffs !

serious pet hate of mine at matches

PhlegmyMoses

Melion wrote: »

And therein lies the problem. As i said earlier, its all well and good playing Scholes and Carrick against teams who go to OT to park the bus, you dont need a Mascherano style player. But last week Liverpool passed around United with ease, Barca have done it through the last few years, Arsenal will do it this season, I'd imagine Chelsea will be able to do it. If you have a "destroyer" in there then it doesnt allow that to happen.

He'd prefer a player like Fellaini or Dembele, I'd imagine. They can get about the other team but also offer a lot in attack.

adox

rarnes1 wrote: »

Was Bales celebration a píss take out of the fans who take photos at matches?

Just watching the highlights now, every time it pans into the crowd theres a few eejits videoing the game.

Watch the game ffs !

serious pet hate of mine at matches

Nah he always celebrates his goals like that.

Does the same just before he gets in the bat mobile too.

everdead.ie

rarnes1 wrote: »

Was Bales celebration a píss take out of the fans who take photos at matches?

Just watching the highlights now, every time it pans into the crowd theres a few eejits videoing the game.

Watch the game ffs !

serious pet hate of mine at matches

He always does the Heart celebration every goal so it's just his celebration.


Also he prefers the Bat these days instead of the batmobile

adox

adox wrote: »

Nah he always celebrates his goals like that.

Does the same just before he gets in the bat mobile too.

everdead.ie wrote: »

He always does the Heart celebration every goal so it's just his celebration.

Ah right, didn't know that. Cheers

Melion

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

He'd prefer a player like Fellaini or Dembele, I'd imagine. They can get about the other team but also offer a lot in attack.

Far superior to Modric in every department, both of them.

everdead.ie

Melion wrote: »

Far superior to Modric in every department, both of them.

I think Modric is better at dictating play but Dembele's physicality is a massive plus letting us play 2 in midfield.