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8+ All-Ireland Medals for Players and +5 Titles for Managers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,710 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Worztron wrote: »
    I though Tommy Walsh won 7.

    Yeah 7 on the pitch, was in the panel in 2002 but didn't make his debut until the following year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,710 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Kay Mills won 15 and Úna O'Connor won 13 Comogie All irelands with Dublin. (Dublin won 8 in a row, lost in 1956 and then came back and won 10 in a row :pac:)

    Angela Downey won 12 Comogie All irelands for Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 AnReiteoir


    Yeah 7 on the pitch, was in the panel in 2002 but didn't make his debut until the following year.


    Yep. However the criteria does not say limited to medals won "on the field".


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭Worztron


    AnReiteoir wrote: »
    Yep. However the criteria does not say limited to medals won "on the field".

    Please elaborate.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,710 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    AnReiteoir wrote: »
    Yep. However the criteria does not say limited to medals won "on the field".

    :confused: I was only pointing out to Worztron where he had won the 8th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 AnReiteoir


    Worztron wrote: »
    Please elaborate.

    The big deal about Henry Shefflin winning 9 was that he won all of those medals "on the field of play". Noel Skehan has 9 since the '80s but the first 3 of his medals were won as substitute goalie where he did not see ""game time" and therefore won a medal as a panel member.

    Some folks might use this "on the field" criteria as a way of readjusting the lists. I know some of the Tipp and Cork folks would like to do this.

    Tommy Walsh, Noel Hickey etc have 1 medal as a substitute so "on the field" would move them down one level in terms of numbers...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 AnReiteoir


    :confused: I was only pointing out to Worztron where he had won the 8th.

    Yah, I know that and you're right, no problem with that at all. I tend to regard a medal is a medal. Once they are togged out and available as a sub on the day then once presented with a medal surely it counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭ceegee


    PJ Ryan has 8 all irelands, James Ryall has 6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    IMO players like Oisin McConville and paul Hearty etc with a pocketful of AI senior club titles should be acknowledged as well......at least as worthy if not more so than a comoige medal IMO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Dara O'Sé has six, Tomás has five, wouldn't bother listing guys with four as there'll be dozens.

    Tom Sullivan with 5 also up there in terms of achievements over the last 20 years. there would also be alot of the old kerry team with 5+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭ciarriaithuaidh


    Tom Sullivan with 5 also up there in terms of achievements over the last 20 years. there would also be alot of the old kerry team with 5+

    See post 18 I.T.T Homerjay!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I suggest that football and hurling medals be separated considering Hurling is a minority sport which has been at a very low ebb over the last decade. One Hurling Medal is an achievement but in terms of competitiveness nobody can honestly say that one all-Ireland hurling medal is the same achievement as one All-Ireland football medal, when you consider the easy route to the final for hurling counties and the limited opposition provided.

    Donegal's achievement this year surmises this and I am of the opinion that one football medal is worth two if not three Hurling medals, when you consider that every single county in Ireland play the sport and compete accordingly. People can praise Kilkenny to the high heavens but the truth is that Kilkenny GAA do not promote Gaelic Football or even try. Had Kerry or Dublin taken such selfish steps in promoting one code of sport exclusively then both Countys would undoubtedly have many more football medals.

    In North Kerry and the South East of the County Hurling is the sport and football is only popular when the county is playing and on the inter-club scene Hurling is where it is at, this has played out in recent years with Kerry winning the Christy Ring Cup and clubs like Kilgarvan and Ballyduff beating opposition from Limerick and Tipperary and both clubs going into Munster Finals.

    Kilkenny have the greatest Hurling team, however it is easy to be great when the rest of the country are bad and the sport itself is dying out nationally. Look at football by Comparison only two teams have retained the title in the last two decades, Cork in 1989-90 and Kerry in 2006-07.

    Since 2010 three different counties have won the football AI of six different competing counties in the final, each of these three counties had waited 16 and 20 years each for a title. In Hurling two counties have have won from three teams and the gap between wins was much smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭red_diesel


    AnReiteoir wrote: »
    The big deal about Henry Shefflin winning 9 was that he won all of those medals "on the field of play". Noel Skehan has 9 since the '80s but the first 3 of his medals were won as substitute goalie where he did not see ""game time" and therefore won a medal as a panel member.

    Some folks might use this "on the field" criteria as a way of readjusting the lists. I know some of the Tipp and Cork folks would like to do this.

    Tommy Walsh, Noel Hickey etc have 1 medal as a substitute so "on the field" would move them down one level in terms of numbers...
    Noel Hickey was a sub in 2009 and 2012
    JJ has 8 medals, played all games bar the final in 2006 when he did his cruciate the week before the final.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,008 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Folks, if you want to have a discussion on whether hurling is better that football,feel free to start a new thread, I've deleted 3 posts from this thread debating this topic as they aren't for here.

    This thread doesn't specify differences between either so hurling medal=football medal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,612 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Ray Cummins 4 Hurling+ 1 Football
    Denis Coughaln 4 Hurling + 1 Football


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    list needs updating after this years Kerry and Kilkenny wins though Ciaran Whelan still has zero.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭Worztron


    list needs updating after this years Kerry and Kilkenny wins though Ciaran Whelan still has zero.

    Feel free to post an updated list. ;)

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Worztron wrote: »
    Feel free to post an updated list. ;)

    Declan Sullivan, Marc O Se and Aidan O Mahoney now join the football list, it is yet to be seen if Colm Cooper will be given and then actually accept his 5th medal. the likes of Killian Young, Donaghy, Darran Sullivan and Brian Sheehan have all moved to 4, but just miss out on the list as its 5+ only.

    couldnt be arsed about Kilkenny :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    The drive for forty is on between Kerry and Kilkenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭deadybai


    The whole wining them 'on the field of play' shouldnt be as important as people are saying .It should just be a bonus. To say one of JJ Delaneys medals is discounted in 06 is ridiculous. He played the entire campaign up to his injury.

    If a team had one player they depended solely on and he got them to the final single handily and he got injured before the final but that team somehow went on to win. Does that mean the star player doesnt deserve a medal?

    Shefflin has 10 regardless of whether he played in this years final.


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