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  • 01-10-2012 10:09pm
    #1
    BigBadRob83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭


    Have a bad feeling a good few of my players will be regressing after season 1, if the stats in Week 1 are anything to go by.
    Especially considering the season totals put up in Madden 12, it will be very very hard for certain positions to reach their goals.

    DT and LB need to get a lot of tackles. From M12 only guys who were near this were CPU players
    WR (certain TE) need to get a lot of catches. Bryant and Austin have goal of 110.
    QB yardage totals could be difficult, Romo is 4800

    These targets are obviously based on a proper NFL season. Based on the reduced number of snaps we will be playing with the shortened clock, most of the totals above will be ridiculously difficult to get to.


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    #2
    Danger_dave1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Danger_dave1


    If you get 40% of your players season target they don't regress. Below and the regress.... I'm worried in a 3-4 for my middle linebackers and DT.

    In saying that XP points from season 2 will be used to keep are regressed players good. Also the regression doesn't seem to be big ...

    What happens I think is back ups / poor starters will be cut ..


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    BigBadRob83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭BigBadRob83


    If that's correct that's great.
    I thought it was if they didn't reach Goal 2 that they would regress?
    Each player has 4 goals for season. Usually Goal 1 is zero, then the numbers I mentioned above were Goal 2 and then they'd get massive XP if they reached goal 3 and/or 4.

    Too much to expect of EA to have some slider for this to adjust for the much shorter length of games.


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    empacher
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    Anybody got any more information on spending xp. I've racked up quiet a bit, but can't tell if i'll get a return on buying traits or not.


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    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I've just been buying the consistency trait mostly.

    Locker and C2J, most guys will get that think.

    With us only playing 3 seasons, waiting to get to 50K for the development trait will mean about half a season of increased XP, not worth it IMO


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    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭Raoul


    empacher wrote: »
    Anybody got any more information on spending xp. I've racked up quiet a bit, but can't tell if i'll get a return on buying traits or not.

    Yeah I would like to know what strategy to use here aswell.

    Like will plus 1 strength really make that much difference, will plus 1 speed and so on?


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    SantryRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Depends what you want really. Upgrade how you'd like them to play. A huge one for D Line men and LBs would be awareness and play recognition.

    Awareness is a pretty important one for O-Line.

    QB/WR/CBs are all about preference.


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    PerrinV2
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,332 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    Slighty off topic but what are ppl spending their career xp on?
    Would the double you're scouting xp be a good one to buy?


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    helimachoptor
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    Me.. Generally the consistency trait and clutch trait.

    Most of the key positions have one/both so ill probably start targeting specifics like short throw accuracy, speed, jumping etc.

    Not gonna bother waiting to get the the 50k development trait.


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    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭Raoul


    How do you keep track of who has the clutch trait?

    There is no point buying the development trait really as we are only doing 3 seasons.


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    helimachoptor
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    Raoul wrote: »
    How do you keep track of who has the clutch trait?

    There is no point buying the development trait really as we are only doing 3 seasons.


    I think you can only buy it once... I hope!
    The consistency trait you can upgrade.

    Agreed, I will probably do it for my QB in the PFL but thats it


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    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭Raoul


    As I said in the other thread. I bought it for one of my players and the xp went but I could have bought it a second time. :confused:


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    PerrinV2
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    Nah I didn't mean the players ones I meant the manager ones,where the contract packages are and stuff


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    helimachoptor
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    PerrinV2 wrote: »
    Nah I didn't mean the players ones I meant the manager ones,where the contract packages are and stuff

    They are to essentially boost the XP gained of certain positions.
    So if you have 2 young SS, you buy the boost package and in a game where they should get 1500 XP they may get 2000 XP etc.

    The other key one is the Retirement Package.. however I dont think it works well.. just ask Santry and Pudsy!


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    #15
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Jesus! I better re-sign Jeremey Mincey. My LE who has 19 sacks after 8 games!! I don't know how or why, but he has 17 more than my next closest player Fred Robbins with 2.

    Think he's due for a stat increase...


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    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭nerd69


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    Jesus! I better re-sign Jeremey Mincey. My LE who has 19 sacks after 8 games!! I don't know how or why, but he has 17 more than my next closest player Fred Robbins with 2.

    Think he's due for a stat increase...
    Mr schaub feels you should cut him


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    SantryRed
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    Raoul wrote: »
    As I said in the other thread. I bought it for one of my players and the xp went but I could have bought it a second time. :confused:

    Then you definitely didn't buy it :pac:


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    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭Raoul


    SantryRed wrote: »
    Then you definitely didn't buy it :pac:

    The xp is gone. 20g's.


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    #19
    Arrow in the Knee
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    Consistency Trait can be upgraded from zero to 1,2,3 maybe even 4!

    Some players will already have a consistency trait of 1 or 2 and some with a zero consistency trait.

    I focused on one player my running back James Starks 'Packers' and put all his XP on toughness to see if he would get to 100 in toughness but it stopped at 99 rating.

    Just wondering as a previous poster queried if a player gets an upgrade from 79 to 80 or even 80 to 85 in a particular trait like speed or strenght how much does he get better on the field of play?


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    SantryRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Arrow in the Knee wrote: »
    Consistency Trait can be upgraded from zero to 1,2,3 maybe even 4!

    Some players will already have a consistency trait of 1 or 2 and some with a zero consistency trait.

    I focused on one player my running back James Starks 'Packers' and put all his XP on toughness to see if he would get to 100 in toughness but it stopped at 99 rating.

    Just wondering as a previous poster queried if a player gets an upgrade from 79 to 80 or even 80 to 85 in a particular trait like speed or strenght how much does he get better on the field of play?

    In another franchise, Torrey Smith has been phenomenal and I had 30k XP. I improved his release from 78 to 88 and the guy is a monster now. He's unplayable at times.

    *Bet Dave has made a note*


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    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Arrow in the Knee wrote: »
    Consistency Trait can be upgraded from zero to 1,2,3 maybe even 4!

    Some players will already have a consistency trait of 1 or 2 and some with a zero consistency trait.

    I focused on one player my running back James Starks 'Packers' and put all his XP on toughness to see if he would get to 100 in toughness but it stopped at 99 rating.

    Just wondering as a previous poster queried if a player gets an upgrade from 79 to 80 or even 80 to 85 in a particular trait like speed or strenght how much does he get better on the field of play?

    I upped MJD's consistency from 3 to 4 earlier, noticed after he was a 98 overall, not sure what he was before. I'll report back if I notice a big difference.


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    Arrow in the Knee
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    What is the Release Trait?

    They should have all traits clearly explained so that we have a clear idea of what they are and not have us second gueesing!


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    helimachoptor
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    Release is separation from a defense player ( I think)


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    #24
    SantryRed
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    Release his how fast they get off the line after a snap. Mainly if a player is pressing them.


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    #25
    Arrow in the Knee
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    When you do your practice games you gain XP points to upgrade boost packages, contracts and retirement.

    I notice that your players gain XP on their own xp progression points when doing practice.

    Whats the maximum XP they can gain, how do they gain it as in is it their weekly goals?


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    helimachoptor
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    Arrow in the Knee wrote: »
    When you do your practice games you gain XP points to upgrade boost packages, contracts and retirement.

    I notice that your players gain XP on their own xp progression points when doing practice.

    Whats the maximum XP they can gain, how do they gain it as in is it their weekly goals?


    I think and someone feel free to correct me!

    Linemen will get points based on rushing yards, passing yards and TDs
    RBs will get it on rushing and catches
    WRs on catching

    on the D
    tackles, ints, FFs i would presume

    Essentially the better the team and the player plays the more XP


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    #27
    Arrow in the Knee
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    I would agree with you helimachoptor that they would gain that during a competitive match but I am talking about a training game where the coach gains 1000xp if he wins.

    The last training game I played I checked my RB xp before and after training and he gained 100xp.

    So they must gain xp if they participate.


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    PerrinV2
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    I presume the xp that your coach and players have gained carry through to next season


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    #29
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    PerrinV2 wrote: »
    I presume the xp that your coach and players have gained carry through to next season

    I would be shocked if they didn't


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    etloveslsd
    Registered Users Posts: 986 ✭✭✭etloveslsd


    PerrinV2 wrote: »
    I presume the xp that your coach and players have gained carry through to next season

    Yeah it does


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    #31
    Berty44
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    Go to Career > My Goals to see what your coach's Weekly and (press LB) season goals are. Can help you in how you run your game. Its often stuff like throw 3TD passes or have 30 running attempts. When you know specifically what you are aiming for you can build Coach XP easier.

    Go to Personnel > Team Goals and then by position you can see what each position player needs to do weekly and by pressing LB in a season.

    Players must get to level 2 in a season otherwise they regress.

    Not entirely sure about regression, they don't regress that much and I think the main attribute that is reduced is "Awareness"...but do not have any evidence to base this on yet.


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