Oscars 2013

jefreywithonef

Ben Affleck was more entertaining, animated and likeable there than all his acting roles combined.

FouxDaFaFa

The whitehouse thing was really strange, I can't remember politics ever being so blatantly involved in the awards in the last few years.

delbertgrady

Cavehill Red wrote: »

The minute they had the nominations introduced from the Whitehouse, it had to be Argo.

Or Lincoln.
But I was up for Argo.

Cavehill Red

delbertgrady wrote: »

Or Lincoln.
But I was up for Argo.

Obama's banged on about Lincoln forever, and Zero Dark 30 was his own operation. It had to be Argo (which I wasn't up for, though it was an ok movie.)

don ramo

delighted for Jennifer Lawrence, totally deserved the award, as did Daniel Day Lewis and Argo,

and Life of Pie is the big winner going away with 4 Oscars, 3 for Argo and Les Miserables, and 2 for Django Unchained, Lincoln and Skyfall

FouxDaFaFa

It somehow makes her more likeable.

FortuneChip

Woot! After 5 nerve shattering months - Argo! Never betting on the Oscars again!

Corholio

Well and truly deserved Argo.

delbertgrady

I don't remember seeing Michael Winner in the In Memoriam section.
I could be mistaken.

humanji

delbertgrady wrote: »

I know Kristen Stewart injured her foot, and was probably in some discomfort, but I've never seen anyone less interested in being on an Oscar stage.

That was her happy face. It just happens to look quite similar to all her other expressions.

leahyl

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

It somehow makes her more likeable.

Poor Jennifer, her dress rips at one awards show and she falls flat on her face at another one! You're right though - makes her even more likeable!

ThirdMan

A huge congratulations to Daniel Day-Lewis, but seriously, lets stop calling him Irish. Born and raised in London, with an accent straight out of a Jane Austen novel. It's sweet that he's made the Old Sod his home, but he isn't Irish.

doubledown

ThirdMan wrote: »

A huge congratulations to Daniel Day-Lewis, but seriously, lets stop calling him Irish. Born and raised in London, with an accent straight out of a Jane Austen novel. It's sweet that he's made the Old Sod his home, but he isn't Irish.

Daniel Day-Lewis doesn't even live here any more. He moved to New York last year with his wife and kids. Every time I hear his name mentioned on the radio or in conversation he is always referred to as "Wicklow resident". He's not (any more).

ThirdMan

doubledown wrote: »

Daniel Day-Lewis doesn't even live here any more. He moved to New York last year with his wife and kids. Every time I hear his name mentioned on the radio or in conversation he is always referred to as "Wicklow resident". He's not (any more).

Well fcuk him then, English prick. :P

ThirdMan

The Wicklow resident’s speech was the most amusing in a show which...

From today's Irish Times.

doubledown

ThirdMan wrote: »

From today's Irish Times.

Doesn't make it factually correct. There was very little (if any) media coverage of it but the fact is that he moved back to America late last year. He doesn't live in Wicklow any more.

Mr Simpson

Didn't he say he wants to spend the next few years in wicklow training to be a stone mason?

Lirange

ThirdMan wrote: »

but he isn't Irish.

What do you bleedin mean Christy Brown isn't Irish? :mad:

phasers

Weird, Sally Field said in an interview yesterday that DDL lives in Ireland

Da Shins Kelly

Daniel Day Lewis holds dual nationality, so maybe he does feel some sense of belonging in Ireland. Why does it even matter anyway? Why is that the first thing people are jumping on?

With regards to the wins, not really too surprised at any of them apart from maybe Ang Lee winning the director award.

doubledown

phasers wrote: »

Weird, Sally Field said in an interview yesterday that DDL lives in Ireland

I believe thay still have the house but they currently live in New York. His wife, Rebecca Miller, wanted to return to the US. His kids no longer go to school here either.

Tipsy McSwagger

Can't believe Argo won best film but I'm happy for Affleck.

FlashD

Never thought i'd see the day that a guy like Affleck would be making an Oscar speech for best picture, inspiring! He was right about the knocks in life, just keep going regardless!

Happier to see Waltz win supporting actor, it was one of the best performances of 2012!

blue note

I'm happy to see Ang Lee win best director. Because I had a fiver on him at 6/1. Also happy to see Django win best original screenplay because I also had a fiver on that.

I'm sad to see Waltz win best supporting actor because he started at 20/1 and I didn't get to back him before the golden globes and then decided that at 4/1 (when I made the other bets) it probably wasn't worth it.

FortuneChip

Ang Lee's price kept getting shorter and shorter as the night went on.
Seems like an absolute gent, even in the pre-oscar segment on Sky.

I only had one bet on Argo, back in September! Long long way to wait, but worth it in the end! It was 10/1, then it was released and went 6/4, then Lincoln came out, and it went back out to 10/1. The rest, is history!

dark crystal

Delighted for Ben Affleck and Christoph Waltz - well deserved. I so wish Joaquin Phoenix had won instead of DDL, though. Still, he did give the best speech of the night.

Can't say I was overly impressed with MacFarlane as host, though.

LizT

leahyl wrote: »

Poor Jennifer, her dress rips at one awards show and she falls flat on her face at another one! You're right though - makes her even more likeable!

Her dress didn't rip, it was the design of it. Dior confirmed that.

SarahBM

The Host: McFarlene was ok. Not the worst presenter ever. Loved the opening with Captain Kirk (trekie), thought that was very well done. and who knew that Daniel Radcliffe could sing and dance.
As far as presenters go, mixed bag. Charlize Theron really stood out, she was stunning.
I was delighted to See Day-Lewis win, I thought it was well deserved and highlight of my night was seeing Waltz and Tarintino win. I knew they would never give Tarintino best director or film, at least they acknowledged the excellent script from Django.

and Argo. Absolutely delighted.

Disgusted Pi won best adapted screen play. Silver Linings Play book should have got that. I was not impressed at Lee winning best Director either.

None of the winners got too emotional on the night, I think if the blubbering was going to come from anywhere it would have been Ann Hathaway, but she held it together. She and the Les Mis cast were brilliant. I dont think Zeta-Jones was singing live, but the others were, I think. Hudson and Bassie blew me away, and Striesand has still got it too. delighted Adele won best song. I was worried she might curse on stage but she didnt.

the one thing that I really thought was an absolute disgrace was how they played the winners off the stage with Jaws music. that was awful. they could have used something a bit more subtle, dont you think.

anyway, thats all over now again for another year. Would love to see Huge Jackman back hosting.
Rant over.

FortuneChip

SarahBM wrote: »

the one thing that I really thought was an absolute disgrace was how they played the winners off the stage with Jaws music. that was awful. they could have used something a bit more subtle, dont you think.

anyway, thats all over now again for another year. Would love to see Huge Jackman back hosting.
Rant over.

Totally agree with the Jaws theme. People were tweating in to the Sky Movies team to say it was great, I thought it was plain rude. I remember when Eastwood et al were getting a little carried away with speeches (either Million Dollar Baby or Mystic River), and they subtly brought in an orchestral piece (NOT JAWS orchestral), and it was a little more civilised, for want of a better word.

Hugh Jackman is a pure entertainer. Incredible stage presence, even if he's not the greatest actor going, he's definitely got the charisma, proved it last night both on the carpet and the stage

Kinski

SarahBM wrote: »

Disgusted Pi won best adapted screen play.

It didn't.

Corholio

SarahBM wrote: »

Disgusted Pi won best adapted screen play. Silver Linings Play book should have got that. I was not impressed at Lee winning best Director either.

Really? I liked Silver Linings and all but Life Of Pi was a much harder book to adapt to screen, noone would touch it for a few years. Silver Linings was relatively straight forward, the performances made it of course, even if I think Jennifer Lawrence's one wasn't as brilliant as some make out.

Edit: As Kinski pointed out, Argo won it.

JP Liz V1

delbertgrady wrote: »

I know Kristen Stewart injured her foot, and was probably in some discomfort, but I've never seen anyone less interested in being on an Oscar stage.

Did she ever hear of a hair brush :rolleyes:

Kinski

ThirdMan wrote: »

A huge congratulations to Daniel Day-Lewis, but seriously, lets stop calling him Irish. Born and raised in London, with an accent straight out of a Jane Austen novel. It's sweet that he's made the Old Sod his home, but he isn't Irish.

He's an Irish citizen, so people refer to him as "Day-Lewis, an Irish citizen/passport holder," (and I don't recall ever hearing anyone call him Irish, but even the BBC refers to him today as "British-born.") It's about respecting his choice to adopt Irish citizenship, not falsely claiming him as our own.

Corholio

It was an ok show, no real surprises to be honest. Although Emmanuelle Riva should have won Best Actress IMO. McFarlane was decent as host but a bit more watered down than I thought. I didn't like the way he constantly mentioned about the jokes mightn't work or that he kept referencing that it was scripted. Should have done that joke once and left it.

Was hoping Phoenix would win Best Actor but Day Lewis is the only one that was on par with him. I thought Adele's performance was pretty boring to be honest. How good does Catherine Zeta Jones still look, holy mama jama.

LOL at Kristen Stewart, yet another dull, limping performance :pac:

Kinski

Best Song must be the most reliably awful category. Whatever about the film, "Skyfall" is a hideous mess of a track, and Adele is a talent-free hack of the highest order.

Sad Professor

I'm kinda glad Lee won best director. Yeah, whatever, Haneke should have gotten it, but that was never going to happen. Life of Pi was fantastically well crafted. One thing for sure, the Academy has sent a clear message to Spielberg: "we love you but you have enough Oscars".

I'll watch the highlights tonight and comment more on who should and shouldn't have won.

SarahBM

Corholio wrote: »

Really? I liked Silver Linings and all but Life Of Pi was a much harder book to adapt to screen, noone would touch it for a few years. Silver Linings was relatively straight forward, the performances made it of course, even if I think Jennifer Lawrence's one wasn't as brilliant as some make out.

Edit: As Kinski pointed out, Argo won it.

apologies. Im wrecked, memory is a bit fuzzy. perhaps my hate for the book is making me bias.

fluke

Kinski wrote: »

Best Song must be the most reliably awful category. Whatever about the film, "Skyfall" is a hideous mess of a track, and Adele is a talent-free hack of the highest order.

Ouch!

In fairness it's a pastiche of Shirley Bassey's work on Bond, and the song succeeds in delivering that grand tone.

SarahBM

Kinski wrote: »

Best Song must be the most reliably awful category. Whatever about the film, "Skyfall" is a hideous mess of a track, and Adele is a talent-free hack of the highest order.

hasnt been the strongest catagory since Glen and Marketa won, but I have to disagree about Skyfall. I think its a great Bond song. Im not sayin its a Masterpiece or anything but as far as most bond songs go, I think its up there. certainly miles better than Sheryl Crow's and Madonna's efforts in the past.
I also think Adele has a beautiful voice, but thats my opinion. I dont really think its fair to call her a "talent-free hack".

hopefully will get to watch the butchered version tonight on rte. refresh my memory.

dark crystal

Kinski wrote: »

Best Song must be the most reliably awful category. Whatever about the film, "Skyfall" is a hideous mess of a track, and Adele is a talent-free hack of the highest order.

Tripe. She writes her own music and has been incredibly successful doing it. Fair fukcs to her.

Talent-free hack she most certainly is not.

Da Shins Kelly

I think "talent-free hack" is a bit much, but Adele is vastly overrated, for sure. You'd swear no-one had ever heard a female soul singer before.

Was hoping Joaquin Phoenix would win best actor too, but not surprised at all that he didn't.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I like Jennifer Lawrence as much as the next person, but the fact that she won for SLP and not Winter's Bone a few years ago says it all about the Oscars. I kind of wish she'd been in Movie 42 or whatever it was just to see if she is genuinely so likable that she can do anything and people will still love her.

There's a gif floating around too of when she fell and Bradley Cooper and Hugh Jackman both run up behind her to help her. Very sweet of them. I did think to myself earlier that if she won it'd be a struggle to get up the steps in that dress.

Someone commented there about KStew having no self awareness, I kind of find JLaw is the same but it comes across so very differently. KStew seems more cynical and JLaw is like a unicorn or something.

Little upset that Beasts of the Southern Wild didn't win anything. Really should have been nominated for best score too.

I liked as well that nothing really dominated like some years. A bit like the BAFTAs, most of the big films got at least one gong each, so it's nice.

As for Adele, I like her, bit sick of her at this point, hope she takes a break now, but I do think that Skyfall itself is a terrible excuse for a song. If it wasn't in the Bond movie it wouldn't even have made a B Sides album.

One thing though, I hate Tarantino, he's so full of himself it's disgusting and Christophe Waltz talking about him like he's Jesus made me feel ill.

dark crystal

dark crystal wrote: »

Tripe. She writes her own music and has been incredibly successful doing it. Fair fukcs to her.

Talent-free hack she most certainly is not.

Just because an artist is successful and writes their own material does not make then talented. Nickleback are incredibly successful and perform their own material but it does not mean that they are in any way talented.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because an artist is successful and writes their own material does not make then talented. Nickleback are incredibly successful and perform their own material but it does not mean that they are in any way talented.

The ability to to write or perform any kind of music requires some level of talent, surely?

FortuneChip

There's a wide area between "Talentless Hack" and "Extremely Talented".
I wouldn't be a big fan of Adele, but I think Skyfall is a great Bond track, and she recorded great vocals for it.

That said, I was a little underwhelmed by the live performance of it last night

dark crystal

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because an artist is successful and writes their own material does not make then talented. Nickleback are incredibly successful and perform their own material but it does not mean that they are in any way talented.

I'm not a fan of Nickleback, but that's just personal taste. I wouldn't say they have no talent, just because I don't appreciate their music.

I have great respect for anyone who writes their own music and can make a hugely successful career out of it. Whether I personally like their output or not is beside the point really.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

The ability to to write or perform any kind of music requires some level of talent, surely?

Considering what passes for popular music I'd have to stick with no, it doesn't.

Da Shins Kelly

FortuneChip wrote: »

That said, I was a little underwhelmed by the live performance of it last night

Shirley Bassey blew her out of the water, I thought.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

FortuneChip wrote: »

That said, I was a little underwhelmed by the live performance of it last night

I thought a lot of the singing sounded a bit off. Maybe whoever was doing the sound desk was annoyed there was so much bloody singing they refused to change the settings?

johnny_ultimate

The meaning of the word talent has been irreversibly distorted beyond all reason by 'talent shows'. Still think it's a bit of a disgrace that Beasts... wasn't nominated for best score - it was the most triumphant, joyous and creative music I heard in a film all year.

I was hoping beyond hope that given a few curveball inclusions and omissions on the nominations list the Academy would be a bit braver this year. Alas, no such luck - a pitifully predictable line-up of winners, few of those winners the most deserving in their respective categories. Waltz was a deserved winner, and Jennifer Lawrence / Day Lewis were at least not entirely objectionable second best in their categories. But most of the other bigger awards were won by less than deserving nominees. Ang Lee at least made a relatively singular, bold film - I don't think he was top of the nomination pile, but at the same time he's not a bad choice at all.

The Oscars continue to prove their irrelevance and blandness overall however. There was an opportunity to rock the boat a bit - an opportunity the Academy predictably declined.

Hopefully, like the overpraised hype of shallow old The Artist last year, the annual 'backlash' against best picture will open a more sensible discourse about Argo. A decent little thriller, but so far from the best cinema has to offer, even amongst the nominees.

At least 'Michael Haneke' got the last word on twitter

Congrats 2 those wot won oscars. i c u in the parms dorz winners only lounj. looks prety empty from hear lol