199 different nationalities now in Ireland

AnonoBoy

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

You think this is USA? France?? massive continents in emselves almost

Ha ha! France is not almost a continent in itself. You need a serious lesson in Geography son.

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Its your opinion, but it is legally wrong and that is what is called a FACT!

That's the first time I've ever seen someone use FACT! in a manner that's entirely correct.

Sappa

Clareboy you do know that many of those nationalities are the spouses of Irish citizens,perfectly entitled to be here and contributing to the country with there culture and positive attitudes.

Toby Take a Bow

Clareboy wrote: »

Oh yes, the Irish have immigrated in the past but now they have to leave because the most of the jobs have been given to the non-Irish. We did not have that situation in the 80s or in the 50s.

I take it maths isn't your strongest point. But here's a thought: take the total population of Ireland, subtract the number of foreigners and those unemployed and it's fairly obvious that 'most' of the jobs are not given to the non-Irish.

martingriff

Slurryface wrote: »

The number of foreign nationals living in Ireland jumped 30% between 2006 and 2011, official figures have revealed today.

Total numbers increased by 124,624 over the five years to April 2011.

The Central Statistics Office also revealed that 544,357 non-Irish nationals were living in Ireland at the time of the census in April of last year, from 199 different nations.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/number-of-foreign-nationals-living-in-ireland-up-30-in-last-five-years-569329.html

Wow, haven't we really become a melting pot!:)

There is only something like 207 in the UN if we get people from the rest we can have the UN here

AnonoBoy

martingriff wrote: »

There is only something like 207 in the UN if we get people from the rest we can have the UN here

Gotta catch 'em all.

Ellis Dee

Not only are they eating our swans, they're eating our mushrooms.:eek:

I was down the forest yesterday and came across a couple of Poles picking what I have always called "aul poison mushrooms". One of the Poles told me the yellow ones were called peepers nick or something and that they were delicious. I said: "Enjoy" and mentally added "at least once".:)

I bet one of the countries missing from the list is the Vatican State, what with its small population and low birth rate and all ...:D

RobbieTheRobber

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Not only are they eating our swans, they're eating our mushrooms.:eek:

I was down the forest yesterday and came across a couple of Poles picking what I have always called "aul poison mushrooms". One of the Poles told me the yellow ones were called peepers nick or something and that they were delicious. I said: "Enjoy" and mentally added "at least once".:)

I bet one of the countries missing from the list is the Vatican State, what with its small population and low birth rate and all ...:D

We had one in the papal nuncio but we kicked him out.

homerjay2005

not yet wrote: »

And there my friend is the problem, too many people are to willing to jump on a comment and play the racism card.

its a general theme on boards and in society that if you slag off anybody that is not the same as you, then you're racist.

its quite sad actually.

RobbieTheRobber

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its a general theme on boards and in society that if you slag off anybody that is not the same as you, then you're racist.

its quite sad actually.

Yes your right slagging off people for being different to you is quite sad

Fuinseog

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Not only are they eating our swans, they're eating our mushrooms.:eek:

I was down the forest yesterday and came across a couple of Poles picking what I have always called "aul poison mushrooms". One of the Poles told me the yellow ones were called peepers nick or something and that they were delicious. I said: "Enjoy" and mentally added "at least once".:)

I bet one of the countries missing from the list is the Vatican State, what with its small population and low birth rate and all ...:D

we have even given up picking blackberries. fair play to them for picking mushrooms.

AnonoBoy

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its a general theme on boards and in society that if you slag off anybody that is not the same as you, then you're racist.

its quite sad actually.

People should be allowed slag anyone.

However I would point out that they 'defending the Aryan race' and talk of 'purity' on this thread are most definitely the sort of conversations that pillow-wearing yokels in America would partake in regularly.

Duckworth_Luas

notnumber wrote: »

I hear Im a (borderline) racist now..fecking greeks.
I meant we are getting pissed on by the economic situation we find ourselves in and I thought it was a rather typical AH joke.

It was pretty obvious!

AnonoBoy

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

It was pretty obvious!

Pretty obvious to normal folk can be blindingly hard to find for some more mentally-challenged folk.

steel header

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Yes your right slagging off people for being different to you is quite sad

We had an Australian in our town when I was home last spring. He was just passing through on his holidays. He was wearing a pair of shorts and runners with no socks!!! If this wasn't bad enough he also had on one of those baseball caps. Shook the town up something awful. Their still talking about the harmless Aussie egit that was in Joe's last April.

EdanHewittt

Do studies show they have integrated yet?

Or is the coveted "melting pot" more like a tossed salad?

Pherekydes

EdanHewittt wrote: »

Do studies show they have integrated yet?

Some are, some aren't.

Or is the coveted "melting pot" more like a tossed salad?

...and scrambled eggs? :pac:

Nodin

giant_midget wrote: »

I'll just say one thing...Your not Irish unless your grandparents are Irish..A piece of paper received at a event in Cork or Dublin to mark you being part of "the new Irish" does not count. That is my personal opinion.. and i am entitled to that, you do not have to agree...that's why it's called my opinion

An opinion based on bollocks, however, is often referred to by another name.

giant_midget wrote: »

I'd say more but i like AH and don't want a ban :pac:

Sure we know that. Ye just usually hang around threads like this and thank the posts of those racists who at least say what they mean.

UCDVet

I'm an immigrant.

I personally think Ireland would be a better place with more strict policies limiting immigration, even though it would mean that I wouldn't be able to live and work here.

Just my honest opinion.

Nodin

UCDVet wrote: »

I'm an immigrant.

I personally think Ireland would be a better place with more strict policies limiting immigration, even though it would mean that I wouldn't be able to live and work here.

Just my honest opinion.

So you think we should withdraw from the EU free movement zone?

iDave

Is Vatican considered an actual nationality? I doubt there are any native Vaticans, most are priests and cardinals from around the world. The head of state is a German. And I doubt too many women live there so birth rate must be close to zero.

UCDVet

Nodin wrote: »

So you think we should withdraw from the EU free movement zone?

I might be misunderstanding your question. I thought the EU free movement zone just afforded EU members the ability to freely travel for up to 3 months with a valid passport?

I'm all for that. Tourists should be welcome to explore Ireland and experience the Irish culture. I think it's great.

But I don't think it's in the best interest of the Irish people to allow foreigners to come in and establish residency and certainly not to work here. I'll admit I don't know the ins-and-outs what being an EU member does for Ireland; but I certainly think immigrants from outside of the EU do not benefit the Irish people.

There are Irish people who can do my job. And they'd do it just as good as me, but they'd re-invest in Ireland. They'd spend their money or save it in an Irish bank (who'd invest it), Ireland would be wealthier for it and the economy would be more strong.

Me? I'm just saving every penny I can for a few years, regularly converting it back to the currency of my original country. Then I'll move and take everything I can with me.

Maybe I'm wrong - but it doesn't seem right, IMHO. Maybe during the boom - but now? When there are unemployed people here who need it....it seems wrong. So many immigrants are willing to work longer/harder for less because even that amount is amazing compared to their other alternatives.

losthorizon

iDave wrote: »

Is Vatican considered an actual nationality? I doubt there are any native Vaticans, most are priests and cardinals from around the world. The head of state is a German. And I doubt too many women live there so birth rate must be close to zero.

Yes, its an official independent country with overseas consulates etc and issues passports etc.

Cool Mo D

UCDVet wrote: »

I might be misunderstanding your question. I thought the EU free movement zone just afforded EU members the ability to freely travel for up to 3 months with a valid passport?

No, it allows you to live and work in any other EU country you like (plus Switzerland and Norway) with the same conditions as citizens.

steel header

UCDVet wrote: »

I'm an immigrant.

I personally think Ireland would be a better place with more strict policies limiting immigration, even though it would mean that I wouldn't be able to live and work here.

Just my honest opinion.

Do you not think Ireland has enough policies and government interference in every aspect of ones life. What an immigrant decides to do with his money is his business and his alone. Their taxed to death as it is.

UCDVet

steel header wrote: »

Do you not think Ireland has enough policies and government interference in every aspect of ones life. What an immigrant decides to do with his money is his business and his alone. Their taxed to death as it is.

Immigrants aren't taxed any more heavily than natives - unless you count the application.

MadsL

giant_midget wrote: »

I'll just say one thing...Your not Irish unless your grandparents are Irish..A piece of paper received at a event in Cork or Dublin to mark you being part of "the new Irish" does not count. That is my personal opinion.. and i am entitled to that, you do not have to agree...that's why it's called my opinion

I'd say more but i like AH and don't want a ban :pac:

So you think somone whose father and mother, and they themselves, have never set foot in Ireland are more Irish than someone either born here, or who worked and paid taxes here?

Someone who contributed hundreds of thousands of euros to the Irish economy is less Irish than someone who would struggle to find it on a map.

Forgive me if I cancel my subscription to your newsletter.

Ellis Dee wrote: »

I was down the forest yesterday and came across a couple of Poles picking what I have always called "aul poison mushrooms". One of the Poles told me the yellow ones were called peepers nick or something and that they were delicious. I said: "Enjoy" and mentally added "at least once".:)

Most Czechs or Poles consider the Irish utterly nuts for not gathering the delicious mushrooms growing freely in the forests. They also wonder why those bland white ones are they only things in the supermarkets. In the Czech republic you are sworn to secrecy if someone brings you mushroom picking with them as good spots for mushrooms are handed down through generations like hierlooms.

Trust me, those Poles know a hell of a lot more about mushrooms than you do

You should have asked for some mushrooms, in the pan with them and scrambled eggs. Yum!

steel header

Right! What % of the average working stiff weekly is taken in tax. 40/45 that's almost half their income going to the state. You think they should pay more?

Johro

Time for the musical interlude..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhBOdxO6Hg

Nodin

UCDVet wrote: »

I might be misunderstanding your question. I thought the EU free movement zone just afforded EU members the ability to freely travel for up to 3 months with a valid passport?.

Theres rather more to it than that, or did you think all those poles were here illegally?
http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/justice_freedom_security/free_movement_of_persons_asylum_immigration/l33152_en.htm

UCDVet wrote: »

but I certainly think immigrants from outside of the EU do not benefit the Irish people..

There are very few immigrants from outside the EU in Ireland, comparitively speaking. However, you might explain your remark a bit more?

jugger0

GoldenLight wrote: »

I really don't want to jump on the band wagon here, I would just like to point out that since the 1550's a lot of Irish (not all) people are actually Brown skinned and Browned eyed, this is due to the Spanish Armada, (on the west coast) and due to pirates and trading with Spain and Portugal on the East Coast. Take a look at families from fishing villages and you can see this.

I have traced my family back to 1800 and I'm fully Irish, but I look like and have being confused for a Spainard, India and Arab. So I think you missed turning off that tap by about 500 years.

My own opinion is I welcome the diversity, and love socialise and experiencing the different cultures.

Pretty sure thats a load of bull, the majority of sailors who washed up on the shores were killed immediately, the survivors went home, any who did stay wouldn't of been able to influence the gene pool to any great extent.

Ive also been confused for a Spaniard but im 100% Irish as well, Ive always been told the real ancient Irish people had dark hair and the vikings brought in all the gingers and blondes...

Nodin

UCDVet wrote: »

I might be misunderstanding your question. I thought the EU free movement zone just afforded EU members the ability to freely travel for up to 3 months with a valid passport?

I'm all for that. Tourists should be welcome to explore Ireland and experience the Irish culture. I think it's great.

But I don't think it's in the best interest of the Irish people to allow foreigners to come in and establish residency and certainly not to work here. I'll admit I don't know the ins-and-outs what being an EU member does for Ireland; but I certainly think immigrants from outside of the EU do not benefit the Irish people.

There are Irish people who can do my job. And they'd do it just as good as me, but they'd re-invest in Ireland. They'd spend their money or save it in an Irish bank (who'd invest it), Ireland would be wealthier for it and the economy would be more strong.

Me? I'm just saving every penny I can for a few years, regularly converting it back to the currency of my original country. Then I'll move and take everything I can with me.

Maybe I'm wrong - but it doesn't seem right, IMHO. Maybe during the boom - but now? When there are unemployed people here who need it....it seems wrong. So many immigrants are willing to work longer/harder for less because even that amount is amazing compared to their other alternatives.

If you're an immigrant, why don't you know how the free movement thing works....?

steel header

He sure don't talk like an immigrant.

Nodin

steel header wrote: »

He sure don't talk like an immigrant.

...talks like a WUM who hasn't thought it through, tbh.

MadsL

Nodin wrote: »

If you're an immigrant, why don't you know how the free movement thing works....?

Whiff of Aussie/Kiwi about him :pac:

UCDVet

Nodin wrote: »

If you're an immigrant, why don't you know how the free movement thing works....?

Because I'm not from the EU.

steel header

I'm an immigrant here in NY. I work for a big company with hundreds of employee's. Their from everywhere, Russians, Italian, Hasidic Jews.

I have never heard one say America would be a better place if we were all kept out and maybe we should give all our earnings to the government.

Nodin

UCDVet wrote: »

Because I'm not from the EU.

That's nice.

Would you care to answer the rest of my questions?

MadsL

steel header wrote: »

I'm an immigrant here in NY. I work for a big company with hundreds of employee's. Their from everywhere, Russians, Italian, Hasidic Jews.

I have never heard one say America would be a better place if we were all kept out and maybe we should give all our earnings to the government.

Possibly because you are that far away from the Mexican border, trust me that sentiment gets thrown around plenty in Arizona. Not agreeing, just noting.

Toby Take a Bow

MadsL wrote: »

Trust me, those Poles know a hell of a lot more about mushrooms than you do

Clearly in this case, they didn't.

iDave

iDave wrote: »

Is Vatican considered an actual nationality? I doubt there are any native Vaticans, most are priests and cardinals from around the world. The head of state is a German. And I doubt too many women live there so birth rate must be close to zero.

Now that you mention it, what are people from the Vatican called?

Mena

Deleted User wrote: »

Now that you mention it, what are people from the Vatican called?

Oh man, that's almost too easy

Raekwon

I'm actually surprised that they're aren't more Brazilians living here. I've met and made friends with so many of them over the last few years that I actually thought that their numbers would be in double figures by now.

I also thought that the number of Poles living here would have rapidly decreased since 2006 because of the recession. I couldn't have been more wrong

I also find it fascinating that there are over 36,683 Lithuanian's living here, that's a massive number for a country with a population of less the 3 million inhabitants. Then again it can't be too great there if they officially have the highest suicide rate in the world Stunning looking women though!

old hippy

El Weirdo wrote: »

They really aren't racist comments.

These aren't the droids you're looking for

old hippy

giant_midget wrote: »

I'll just say one thing...Your not Irish unless your grandparents are Irish..A piece of paper received at a event in Cork or Dublin to mark you being part of "the new Irish" does not count. That is my personal opinion.. and i am entitled to that, you do not have to agree...that's why it's called my opinion

I'd say more but i like AH and don't want a ban :pac:

My passport says I'm Irish, I was born and lived there for 29 years before moving on. I say I'm Irish. All my family and friends say I'm Irish. Even my American mother says I'm Irish but my grandparents - 2 Americans, 1 Irish, 1 Northern Irish would mean (under your, er, logic) that I'm not Irish?

Now I remember why I moved away :rolleyes:

old hippy

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

not at all I'm defending the Aryan race; if people know me and they'll know all I ever wanted was a balance in this world. Beyond my own island, and beyond my own lifetime but i wouldnt go looking to enforce one...

just retain one.

Didn't the aryans originally come from India? Why not defend the human race, rather than these aryans? Surely that's more in the interests of balance?

Wee Willy Harris

I don't even know hippy but what I do know is that they're essentially the same dark global majority I am, bar my oirish eyes... I've bn called paki n all sorts from a distance, can only imagine if that were to genuinely increase here i'd be mortified? so I'm defending those guys too but most of all; Ireland.

Besides I think 199 is as diverse as one can get; my mission is accomplished time to turn the tap off!

ArtSmart

i wonder how many posters actually read through the census document in the link?

Wee Willy Harris

I'll tell you though hippy when some cold, stoic 7ft Russian ganster cum cake shop security man won't let you buy one, claiming it's closed early come back to me

Nodin

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

I'll tell you though hippy when some cold, stoic 7ft Russian ganster cum cake shop security man won't let you buy one, claiming it's closed early come back to me

What are you on about?

Wee Willy Harris

I've already determined you're a bit simple nodin, don't compound it.

/my experience is written in text.