Owen Coyle sacked

amiable

Bolton have sacked Owen Coyle according to Sky

RikkFlair

Future Ireland manager?

super_furry

Stop. 'Arry time!

Fizman

Funny old sport football. Less than 18 months ago and he was being lauded for big things in the game. Now he could very well turn things around like a few have done, but it's crazy nonetheless.

Mr.Crinklewood

super_furry wrote: »

Stop. 'Arry time!

McAteer a shoe in.

Time for a Boards rumour.....

jaykay74

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

McAteer a shoe in.

Time for a Boards rumour.....

I read that earlier actually. It may have been your post though.

counterlock

I felt that his switch to Bolton did neither club any favours at the time.
He probably would have been better off sticking with Burnley and trying to get them back up last year

IRISHSPORTSGUY

How long before he is saying 'Blue Square Premier' all the time ? :pac:

mike65

Ah I remember when he was a future Manchester Utd manager.

The_Kew_Tour

RikkFlair wrote: »

Future Ireland manager?

No thanks. Think we can get little better then that.

amiable

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No thanks. Think we can get little better then that.

Can we though?

The_Kew_Tour

amiable wrote: »

Can we though?

im basing this on hope more then expectation.

Think we will see Mick in charge again someday

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Chris Hughton for a start.

That McDermott fella.

Joe Fúcking Kinnear.

Big Mick.

Pat Fenlon.

Dr Josef Venglos.

hefferboi

Very unlucky with the injuries he had last year. 2 star players out before the season started. He was brilliant throughout the Muamba incident too.

Francie Barrett

In fairness to Coyle, I believe he was in a difficult situation at Bolton as the chairman had been drastically cutting spending in the last two years. At the same time, Coyle never helped himself be spending the bulk of his meagre funds on Sordell and N'Goal - their goal return has been nothing short of pathetic.

amiable

Des wrote: »

Chris Hughton for a start.

That McDermott fella.

Joe Fúcking Kinnear.

Big Mick.

Pat Fenlon.

Dr Josef Venglos.

Wim Jansen?

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Mick
Roy
Coyle
Hughton (soon enough)

Shortlist for next Ireland manager is building up nicely. None are brilliant options, but none are particularly horrible either.

amiable

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Mick
Roy
Coyle
Hughton (soon enough)

Shortlist for next Ireland manager is building up nicely. None are brilliant options, but none are particularly horrible either.

So we settle for mediocrity?

super_furry

amiable wrote: »

So we settle for mediocrity?

Because we can't attract greatness.

The_Kew_Tour

Made nice few quid on Next Ireland manager the last time around on exchanges.

Its punters heaven. Terry Venables, Paul Jewell, Gérard Houllier, Didier Deschamps were all odds on to become new Ireland manager at one point last time out.

It was best circus in town

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Philippe Trousier

IRISHSPORTSGUY

amiable wrote: »

So we settle for mediocrity?

If Mick was as mediocre as last time I'd settle for that like.

Dots1982

Maybe I'm wrong but I would still rate Coyle highly as a manager and out of the candidates we would attract would consider him a value appointment. He certainly would be a welcome change from Trap in terms of having youth and more dedication and commitment.

RikkFlair

Des wrote: »

Chris Hughton for a start.

That McDermott fella.

Joe Fúcking Kinnear.

Big Mick.

Pat Fenlon.

Dr Josef Venglos.

THIS. Just for the press conferences if a journo pisses him off.

inforfun

amiable wrote: »

Wim Jansen?

Not one for the spot lights anymore.
he never liked spotlights to begin with.

everdead.ie

Des wrote: »

Chris Hughton for a start.

That McDermott fella.

Joe Fúcking Kinnear.

Big Mick.

Pat Fenlon.

Dr Josef Venglos.

I don't want to see Hughton near the Irish team in the near future as it'll mean he's been sacked :-(

Joe on the other hand could be great!

geeky

RikkFlair wrote: »

THIS. Just for the press conferences if a journo pisses him off.

Which one of you is Eamon Dunphy?

Francie Barrett

Des wrote: »

Chris Hughton for a start.

That McDermott fella.

Joe Fúcking Kinnear.

Big Mick.

Pat Fenlon.

Dr Josef Venglos.

Can't believe you forgot David O' Leary :pac:

Pro. F

super_furry wrote: »

Because we can't attract greatness.

Money is what would matter most in trying to attract a manager to any team. Sure the top club earners are far out of our reach, but other than that we really aren't in that bad of a position.

Here is a list of the top 30 earning managers, compiled last March:
1 Jose Mourinho Real Madrid € 10 million 16 Manuel Pellegrini Malaga € 3.5 million
2 Pep Guardiola Barcelona € 7.5 million 17 Luciano Spaletti Zenit St. Petersburg € 3,000,000
3 Guus Hiddink Anzhi Makhachkala € 7.5 million 18 Muricy Ramalho Santos € 2.6 million
4 Roberto Mancini Manchester City € 6,000,000 19 Ottmar Hitzfeld Switzerland € 2.6 million
5 Carlo Ancelotti Paris Saint-Germain € 5.9 million 20 Alex McLeish Aston Villa € 2.4 million
6 Jupp Heynckes Bayern Munich € 5,000,000 21 Joachim Low Germany € 2.4 million
7 Alex Ferguson Manchester United € 4.8 million 22 Vicente del Bosque Spain € 2.1 million
8 Kenny Dalglish Liverpool € 4.8 million 23 Abel Braga Fluminense € 2.1 million
9 Arsène Wenger Armory € 4.7 million 24 Massimiliano Allegri AC Milan € 2.1 million
10 Harry Redknapp Tottenham € 4.7 million 25 Jurgen Klopp Borussia Dortmund € 2.1 million
11 Luis Felipe Scolari Palmeiras € 3.6 million 26 Dorival Júnior International € 1.9 million
12 David Moyes Everton € 3.6 million 27 Tite Corinthians € 1.9 million
13 Mark Hughes Queens Park Rangers € 3.6 million 28 Claudio Ranieri Inter Milan € 1.8 million
14 Martin O'neill Sunderland € 3.6 million 29 Mano Menezes Brazil € 1.7 million
15 Diego Maradona Al-Wasl € 3.5 million 30 Antonio Conte Juventus € 1.6 million
link(requires translation)

And here is the Irish Times article about Trapattoni's salary. He earns around €1.5m.

There is no way we should be thinking about Owen Coyle and Mick McCarthy. We should be looking way above that level when the time comes.

Seaneh

Pro. F wrote: »

Money is what would matter most in trying to attract a manager to any team. Sure the top club earners are far out of our reach, but other than that we really aren't in that bad of a position.

Here is a list of the top 30 earning managers, compiled last March:
1 Jose Mourinho Real Madrid € 10 million 16 Manuel Pellegrini Malaga € 3.5 million
2 Pep Guardiola Barcelona € 7.5 million 17 Luciano Spaletti Zenit St. Petersburg € 3,000,000
3 Guus Hiddink Anzhi Makhachkala € 7.5 million 18 Muricy Ramalho Santos € 2.6 million
4 Roberto Mancini Manchester City € 6,000,000 19 Ottmar Hitzfeld Switzerland € 2.6 million
5 Carlo Ancelotti Paris Saint-Germain € 5.9 million 20 Alex McLeish Aston Villa € 2.4 million
6 Jupp Heynckes Bayern Munich € 5,000,000 21 Joachim Low Germany € 2.4 million
7 Alex Ferguson Manchester United € 4.8 million 22 Vicente del Bosque Spain € 2.1 million
8 Kenny Dalglish Liverpool € 4.8 million 23 Abel Braga Fluminense € 2.1 million
9 Arsène Wenger Armory € 4.7 million 24 Massimiliano Allegri AC Milan € 2.1 million
10 Harry Redknapp Tottenham € 4.7 million 25 Jurgen Klopp Borussia Dortmund € 2.1 million
11 Luis Felipe Scolari Palmeiras € 3.6 million 26 Dorival Júnior International € 1.9 million
12 David Moyes Everton € 3.6 million 27 Tite Corinthians € 1.9 million
13 Mark Hughes Queens Park Rangers € 3.6 million 28 Claudio Ranieri Inter Milan € 1.8 million
14 Martin O'neill Sunderland € 3.6 million 29 Mano Menezes Brazil € 1.7 million
15 Diego Maradona Al-Wasl € 3.5 million 30 Antonio Conte Juventus € 1.6 million
link(requires translation)

And here is the Irish Times article about Trapattoni's salary. He earns around €1.5m.

There is no way we should be thinking about Owen Coyle and Mick McCarthy. We should be looking way above that level when the time comes.

There is no way in hell the FAI will spend €1.5million a year on the next lad.
The wage will be about 1/3rd the current budget.

Pro. F

Seaneh wrote: »

There is no way in hell the FAI will spend €1.5million a year on the next lad.
The wage will be about 1/3rd the current budget.

You know Dennis O'Brien pays half the salary right? So unless he changes his mind and pulls out the salary is not going to drop by 2/3rds.

grenache

RikkFlair wrote: »

Future Ireland manager?

Good lord I hope not!

Cannot the stand the man, either his tactics or his personality. Took Bolton from a steady established PL team of 10 years to 18th in the Championship in less than 2 seasons. Impressive! His football is as dour as his complaining is annoying. He speaks far and away the most bull of any manager in post-match interviews. Stuff like "they should have had a couple of guys sent off, we could have been 3 or 4 up at half time, they've got lucky for their goal" are commonplace in his weekly moans. He is an incredibly sore loser.

And if he's not sore losing, he's to be found licking the ass of a top four manager like Wenger or Ferguson. It's revolting to see a grown man do it in public

A horrible horrible man. I would say good riddance, only he was a perfect match for Bolton, a side more interested in kicking the opposition than the ball.

StephenHendry

sorry to see him go, saw bolton a few times, against forest e.g. and they looked ok. the managers sackings are in fully swing with steve kean getting the sack.

mick mccarthy might fancy the bolton job although i hope he is still in the frame when the irish job comes up.

i think sparky hughes and maybe hughton could soon be joining him on the job que. there will be soon an lot of clubs of uncle 'arry to consdier

Seaneh

Pro. F wrote: »

You know Dennis O'Brien pays half the salary right? So unless he changes his mind and pulls out the salary is not going to drop by 2/3rds.

I can't see him renewing.

Pro. F

Seaneh wrote: »

I can't see him renewing.

Fair enough if that's what you think. I have no idea what his story is.

grenache

StephenHendry wrote: »

sorry to see him go, saw bolton a few times, against forest e.g.

Did you see his post-match interview too?

It was comical. The man speaks some amount of bull.

Seaneh

Seaneh wrote: »

Pro. F wrote: »

Money is what would matter most in trying to attract a manager to any team. Sure the top club earners are far out of our reach, but other than that we really aren't in that bad of a position.

Here is a list of the top 30 earning managers, compiled last March:
1 Jose Mourinho Real Madrid € 10 million 16 Manuel Pellegrini Malaga € 3.5 million
2 Pep Guardiola Barcelona € 7.5 million 17 Luciano Spaletti Zenit St. Petersburg € 3,000,000
3 Guus Hiddink Anzhi Makhachkala € 7.5 million 18 Muricy Ramalho Santos € 2.6 million
4 Roberto Mancini Manchester City € 6,000,000 19 Ottmar Hitzfeld Switzerland € 2.6 million
5 Carlo Ancelotti Paris Saint-Germain € 5.9 million 20 Alex McLeish Aston Villa € 2.4 million
6 Jupp Heynckes Bayern Munich € 5,000,000 21 Joachim Low Germany € 2.4 million
7 Alex Ferguson Manchester United € 4.8 million 22 Vicente del Bosque Spain € 2.1 million
8 Kenny Dalglish Liverpool € 4.8 million 23 Abel Braga Fluminense € 2.1 million
9 Arsène Wenger Armory € 4.7 million 24 Massimiliano Allegri AC Milan € 2.1 million
10 Harry Redknapp Tottenham € 4.7 million 25 Jurgen Klopp Borussia Dortmund € 2.1 million
11 Luis Felipe Scolari Palmeiras € 3.6 million 26 Dorival Júnior International € 1.9 million
12 David Moyes Everton € 3.6 million 27 Tite Corinthians € 1.9 million
13 Mark Hughes Queens Park Rangers € 3.6 million 28 Claudio Ranieri Inter Milan € 1.8 million
14 Martin O'neill Sunderland € 3.6 million 29 Mano Menezes Brazil € 1.7 million
15 Diego Maradona Al-Wasl € 3.5 million 30 Antonio Conte Juventus € 1.6 million
link(requires translation)

And here is the Irish Times article about Trapattoni's salary. He earns around €1.5m.

There is no way we should be thinking about Owen Coyle and Mick McCarthy. We should be looking way above that level when the time comes.

There is no way in hell the FAI will spend €1.5million a year on the next lad.
The wage will be about 1/3rd the current budget.

Exactly.

pickarooney

"Arsène Wenger - Armory" - sounds like a team from one of those games that can't afford to licence the proper team names.

The_B_Man

It should be "London Red"!

antodeco

Sad to see him go, but as a BW fan, really needed him to be gone. The team arent playing too badly, its just that they can are making schoolboy errors in defence. There seems to be a "its your problem" approach sometimes in defence, which hopefully will sort it. Its very rep of irelandy in terms of how they approach the games. Not sure who I want as manager. Someone with the ability to get the team organised but also know how to attack!

Aidric

Get on.

token101

Pro. F wrote: »

Money is what would matter most in trying to attract a manager to any team. Sure the top club earners are far out of our reach, but other than that we really aren't in that bad of a position.

Here is a list of the top 30 earning managers, compiled last March:
1 Jose Mourinho Real Madrid € 10 million 16 Manuel Pellegrini Malaga € 3.5 million
2 Pep Guardiola Barcelona € 7.5 million 17 Luciano Spaletti Zenit St. Petersburg € 3,000,000
3 Guus Hiddink Anzhi Makhachkala € 7.5 million 18 Muricy Ramalho Santos € 2.6 million
4 Roberto Mancini Manchester City € 6,000,000 19 Ottmar Hitzfeld Switzerland € 2.6 million
5 Carlo Ancelotti Paris Saint-Germain € 5.9 million 20 Alex McLeish Aston Villa € 2.4 million
6 Jupp Heynckes Bayern Munich € 5,000,000 21 Joachim Low Germany € 2.4 million
7 Alex Ferguson Manchester United € 4.8 million 22 Vicente del Bosque Spain € 2.1 million
8 Kenny Dalglish Liverpool € 4.8 million 23 Abel Braga Fluminense € 2.1 million
9 Arsène Wenger Armory € 4.7 million 24 Massimiliano Allegri AC Milan € 2.1 million
10 Harry Redknapp Tottenham € 4.7 million 25 Jurgen Klopp Borussia Dortmund € 2.1 million
11 Luis Felipe Scolari Palmeiras € 3.6 million 26 Dorival Júnior International € 1.9 million
12 David Moyes Everton € 3.6 million 27 Tite Corinthians € 1.9 million
13 Mark Hughes Queens Park Rangers € 3.6 million 28 Claudio Ranieri Inter Milan € 1.8 million
14 Martin O'neill Sunderland € 3.6 million 29 Mano Menezes Brazil € 1.7 million
15 Diego Maradona Al-Wasl € 3.5 million 30 Antonio Conte Juventus € 1.6 millionlink(requires translation)

And here is the Irish Times article about Trapattoni's salary. He earns around €1.5m.

There is no way we should be thinking about Owen Coyle and Mick McCarthy. We should be looking way above that level when the time comes.

McLeish earned more than the managers of Spain, Germany, Brazil, Inter Milan, AC, Juventus and Dortmund :pac:

The_Kew_Tour

Aidric wrote: »

Get on.

20/1 in places

dsmythy

Pro. F wrote: »

You know Dennis O'Brien pays half the salary right? So unless he changes his mind and pulls out the salary is not going to drop by 2/3rds.

He doing that forever or was it to get a top class manager in this one time? I'm certain his appetite will have decreased over the years since Trapattoni was hired. The FAI will be alone and paying less than 1 million to the next guy IMO.

Pro. F

dsmythy wrote: »

He doing that forever or was it to get a top class manager in this one time? I'm certain his appetite will have decreased over the years since Trapattoni was hired. The FAI will be alone and paying less than 1 million to the next guy IMO.

Do you actually have any evidence to base your last sentence on?

As I said, I don't know either way.

dsmythy

Pro. F wrote: »

Do you actually have any evidence to base your last sentence on?

As I said, I don't know either way.

It's just my opinion. When you look at the FAI and the country in general economically, I don't see an appetite for benefactors to continue paying half a wage. The agreement was to pay Trap's wages not every Ireland manager after. Take away that assistance AND reduce what the FAI can pay when you consider their economic situation then saying the next manager will be on less than 1 million is probably being kind as it could be a lot less. All just my opinion.

Pro. F

dsmythy wrote: »

It's just my opinion. When you look at the FAI and the country in general economically, I don't see an appetite for benefactors to continue paying half a wage. The agreement was to pay Trap's wages not every Ireland manager after. Take away that assistance AND reduce what the FAI can pay when you consider their economic situation then saying the next manager will be on less than 1 million is probably being kind as it could be a lot less. All just my opinion.

Yeah fair enough. I have no opinion on what O'Brian is likely to do either way. I hope you're wrong but I haven't a clue.

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Pro. F wrote: »

Yeah fair enough. I have no opinion on what O'Brian is likely to do either way. I hope you're wrong but I haven't a clue.

I seem to remember that it was O'Brien who brought Trappatoni to the attention of the FAI, and said "employ this fella and I'll make up the difference in his wages".

Pro. F

Des wrote: »

I seem to remember that it was O'Brien who brought Trappatoni to the attention of the FAI, and said "employ this fella and I'll make up the difference in his wages".

The way I remember it is O'Brien came forward and offered money first and then the FAI special footballing needs advice panel started looking at candidates.

I know I saw Houghton in an interview recently saying that the FAI came to him and asked what he thought about Trap as a candidate and he said go for it. I think that was in the RTE documentary series there a little while ago.

Of course it wouldn't be beyond Delany to pull a stunt to make it look like the FAI had some say in the selection even if they didn't.

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Saw Houghton where?

Wasn't there some Northern Irish fella on that panel also?

I think they came out with names like Jewel, and them lads, and it wasn't until O'Brien came forward, with Trappatoni, that it was put in place.

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Actually

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055230801&page=47

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/international/2008/0210/227894-fai/