Galway overtaken by Limerick?

-Vega-

It's about quality not quantity anyway...

Brennans Row

newkie wrote: »

Limerick's problems are overstated . . . . .

I wish they were!

Galway City Council enjoys a much larger jurisdiction area than Limerick City Council does.

In 1985 Galway City had an administrative area of 12,495 acres to Limerick's 5,155 acres.

Emergency legislation to tackle the social-spatial planning problems of Limerick in 2008 increased it to 7,675 acres.

The Department of Environment got it right by giving Galway City enough space to be run successfully by one local authority.

Sadly they screwed up Limerick City by allowing three local authorities to run it.

I often wonder how Limerick City would have fared out if it had 12,495 acres to plan with it back in 1950?

dave 27

KKBL wrote: »

During the winter Galway City would probably have a bigger population than Limerick City due to the massive amount of students who move into Galway for the college year.

I dont think Galway necessarily has more students than Limerick, Galways university is in the centre of town which gives the impression of more students and better buzz.

Limerick has UL which has around 17,000ish, then theres LIT which has 7,500, Mary I has 3,500 not to mention smaller places like Limerick Senior College, Griffith College etc etc..

flogging a dead horse

Galway people usually refer their 'city' to a 'town'

JupiterKid

Galway may be a much more pleasant city than Limerick (well, in my opinion) but if you compare the contiguous built-up areas of both cities - Limerick is in fact bigger than Galway - 92,000 compared to 76,000.

Dublin City has around 520,000 inhabitants but the actual city plus contiguous suburbs contain 1.2 million. You cannot judge a city's size simply by the population within its local authority boundaries - you must look at the entire urban area.

That said, Galway is growing at a rate much faster than Limerick and could well pass it out in the next 20 years if trends continue.

dloob

On the other hand Galway has a city council and now Limerick doesn't.

galwayrush

dloob wrote: »

On the other hand Galway has a city council and now Limerick doesn't.

Not necessarily a strong point...:pac:

Davyhal

Limerick is a bigger city than Galway, as Castletroy and Dooradoyle are far more integrated with the city than Barna, Claregalway, Oranmore, and most certainly Athenry. Knocknacarra would be the closest comparison...

If you are in the heart of Limerick city centre and start walking to Castletroy or Dooradoyle, at no point will you think you have left the city, same as when you walk from Galway to Knocknacarra... When you start in Galway city and walk to Barna, Claregalway, and definitely Athenry, you know that you have left the city and are now entering another place. There are significant areas of land between Galway city and these towns that are not built upon, thereby seperating the areas

dave 27

The post doesnt really make sence..Limerick was never smaller than Galway, Limerick was always bigger, Bigger city centre, wider streets, bigger buildings, bigger suburbs, bigger population..

These are parts of the city centre, id say you could probably fit most of the centre of galway in there alone!

Cityslicker1

Galway doesn't look or feel like a city to me. Architecturally the city centre is quite low rise and not very impressive, typical to what you would find in most towns throughout the country. Galway is more comparable to somewhere like Ennis. Limerick looks and feels like a city with rows and rows of fantastic Georgian buildings and has the best examples of late Georgian architecture outside of Dublin in the country. Limerick also has probably the best river front of all the cities in Ireland. Its easy to make Galway vibrant when it's essentially one narrow street full of tourists who were handed a tourist brochure when they got off the plane with Galway number one on the list and Limerick probably not mentioned. Plus Limerick doesn't look Irish enough for the Americans who are seeking the Irish experience that hits the perfect stereotype of an Irish city with its brightly painted buildings, narrow streets and Aran wearing hippies playing music on the street. Limerick city centre even feels bigger than Cork city centre as Cork has about two wide streets and the rest are narrow lanes and the entire city centre area is very compact. To go from The Hunt Musuem to the Daniel O' Connell statue in Limerick is over 1km and you are still in the city centre. To travel 1km from the bridge at the top of St.Patrick street in Cork and continuing straight up the street will bring you to the gates of UCC which isn't in the city centre. As for Galway..if you travel 1km from Jurys on Quay street and continue up Shop street you will leave the city centre very quickly and end up in the suburbs.

Totally Tropical

Cityslicker1 wrote: »

Galway doesn't look or feel like a city to me. Architecturally the city centre is quite low rise and not very impressive, typical to what you would find in most towns throughout the country. Galway is more comparable to somewhere like Ennis. Limerick looks and feels like a city with rows and rows of fantastic Georgian buildings and has the best examples of late Georgian architecture outside of Dublin in the country. Limerick also has probably the best river front of all the cities in Ireland. Its easy to make Galway vibrant when it's essentially one narrow street full of tourists who were handed a tourist brochure when they got off the plane with Galway number one on the list and Limerick probably not mentioned. Plus Limerick doesn't look Irish enough for the Americans who are seeking the Irish experience that hits the perfect stereotype of an Irish city with its brightly painted buildings, narrow streets and Aran wearing hippies playing music on the street. Limerick city centre even feels bigger than Cork city centre as Cork has about two wide streets and the rest are narrow lanes and the entire city centre area is very compact. To go from The Hunt Musuem to the Daniel O' Connell statue in Limerick is over 1km and you are still in the city centre. To travel 1km from the bridge at the top of St.Patrick street in Cork and continuing straight up the street will bring you to the gates of UCC which isn't in the city centre. As for Galway..if you travel 1km from Jurys on Quay street and continue up Shop street you will leave the city centre very quickly and end up in the suburbs.

Cork city centre has a mixture of big long streets like Patrick Street Grand Parade South Mall North Main Street Oliver Plunkett Street the quays and charming narrow streets.The city centre spills over onto McCurtain Shandon and Barrack streets.btw I consider the whole island to be the city centre.:pac: Galway is also a much more nicer and charming city than Limerick.Any reasonable minded person would agree that Cork and Galway are nicer places than Limerick.Limerick rows and rows of dull georgian streets does nothing for me.That area around the bus station is a disgrace.Catherine street,Cecil Street,Glentworth Street and the area around the castle are dilapidated dumps.Half the shops on O'Connell Street are closed down and William Street is full of two euros shops and there's not much on Henry Street either.Quality over quantity eh.

amiable

Totally Tropical wrote: »

Cork city centre has a mixture of big long streets like Patrick Street Grand Parade South Mall North Main Street the quays and charming narrow streets.The city centre spills over onto McCurtain Shandon and Barrack streets.btw I consider the whole island to be the city centre.:pac: Galway is also a much more nicer and charming city than Limerick.Any reasonable minded person would agree that Cork and Galway are nicer places than Limerick.Limerick rows and rows of dull georgian streets does nothing for me.That area around the bus station is a disgrace.Catherine street,Cecil Street,Glentworth Street and the area around the castle are dilapidated dumps.Half the shops on O'Connell Street are closed down and William Street is full of two euros shops and there's not much on Henry Street either.Quality over quantity eh.

What has any of that to do with the size of the 2 cities?

Totally Tropical

amiable wrote: »

What has any of that to do with the size of the 2 cities?

He's blabbering on about the size of Limerick city centre and im trying to make the point that Galway and Cork are more buzzy and vibrant cities and that the whole central island in Cork is city cente.

amiable

Totally Tropical wrote: »

He's blabbering on about the size of Limerick city centre and im trying to make the point that Galway and Cork are more buzzy and vibrant cities and that the whole central island in Cork is city cente.

So he was the one blabbering?

Totally Tropical

amiable wrote: »

So he was the one blabbering?

Let's shorten it down then.:D Galway city centre is much smaller than Limerick city centre but it's a lot nicer looking and has way more atmosphere.Cork city centre is of an equivalent size to Limerick city centre but like Galway it is a lot nicer looking and has way more atmosphere.

amiable

Totally Tropical wrote: »

Let's shorten it down then.:D Galway city centre is much smaller than Limerick city centre but it's a lot nicer looking and has way more atmosphere.Cork city centre is of an equivalent size to Limerick city centre but like Galway it is a lot nicer looking and has way more atmosphere.

In your opinion of course

antoobrien

Cityslicker1 wrote: »

Galway doesn't look or feel like a city to me. Architecturally the city centre is quite low rise and not very impressive, typical to what you would find in most towns throughout the country.

Have you been to Dublin? 6-8 storeys tops, 3/4 storeys most common - not exactly highrise. By that definition we don't have any city in Ireland.

Cityslicker1 wrote: »

Limerick looks and feels like a city with rows and rows of fantastic Georgian buildings and has the best examples of late Georgian architecture outside of Dublin in the country.

To be frank I'm glad Galway doesn't have this because the Georgian & Victorian buildings just look wrong, are cold and draughty and a nightmare to try and adapt to 21st century needs due to conservation requirements - which vary in severity from not being able to change the window type to not being able to change the internal decor.

Galway & the Claddagh are among the oldest continuously used human settlements in Europe - that gives Galway a right to be described as a city.

cooperguy

antoobrien wrote: »

Galway & the Claddagh are among the oldest continuously used human settlements in Europe - that gives Galway a right to be described as a city.

Id argue with that, it gives it the right to be called old.