Bill Cullen

mccarthy37

FTA69 wrote: »

So a public figure who bent over backwards to embrace the limelight is immune from all criticism due to the fact his siblings died?

I sympathise with anyone going through bereavement, it doesn't mean that we should ignore the comments that he made very recently and we shouldn't be surprised when people are glad that those comments came back to bite him in the arse. You want to talk about smugness? Bill Cullen was the absolute epitome of smug; a complete and utter egotist.

He actually had the gumption to stand up on national television and declare hard-working young people abroad as "mollycoddled" enjoying a "holiday in the sun" and whatnot. Personally I didn't see much holidaying when I was breaking my hole on building sites in Tottenham or Holloway before legging it home to wash before I started my second job. He then stated that people were "whingers" for not working for millionaires like himself for free, as if they were below being paid for the work they did. (Crazy concept I know.)

He embodied everything that was wrong with the Irish super-wealthy; an egotistical twat who felt fit to lecture a population facing unemployment, hopelessness and a generation of young people forced to leave because they can't find anything at home. According to him the problem was entirely down to "laziness", that the plebs aren;t working hard enough for nothing.

And we're supposed to be compassionate when one of the most arrogant bastards in the country falls on his arse economically?

Away up the yard with your crap.

Seems like his attitude is shared by this present Government.

Amprodude

tallus wrote: »

A very close relative of mine was married to his brother who died on October 20th.

They were Together 32 years, and he died as a result of the Business going under, so yes you did hit a nerve.

Im sorry for your troubles but this isnt a thread on Bill Cullens brothers cousins relatives or such, its a thread on Bill Cullen and your sympathy requests will never change my opinion on Bill Cullen.

tallus

Amprodude wrote: »

Im sorry for your troubles but this isnt a thread on Bill Cullens brothers cousins relatives or such, its a thread on Bill Cullen and your sympathy requests will never change my opinion on Bill Cullen.

I wasn't looking for sympathy, I was trying to add a bit of background to my reaction to your second post, that yes you did hit a nerve, and I dread the day when a death in the family is not worth getting upset over.

andym1

My Opinion... He did do good for himself but rubbed it into any face that would listen...

I even felt sorry for him when his motor dealership crashed...

Then his hotel....Well
He was writing cheques with his mouth that his bank could not cash...So
Fcuk him, Welcome to reality Bill.

Amprodude

tallus wrote: »

I wasn't looking for sympathy, I was trying to add a bit of background to my reaction to your second post, that yes you did hit a nerve, and I dread the day when a death in the family is not worth getting upset over.

It was you who brought up about his Bills brother and sister passing away NOT me. It still isnt going to change my opinion on Bill Cullen. So if you dont like what you are hearing maybe you should GTF out of here for your own good.

tallus

Amprodude wrote: »

It was you who brought up about his Bills brother and sister passing away NOT me. It still isnt going to change my opinion on Bill Cullen. So if you dont like what you are hearing maybe you should GTF out of here for your own good.

I wasn't commenting in your opinion on Bill Cullen, you're missing the point.

Your smug comments regarding his misfortune are what grated me.

Doesn't mater who you were bitching about, I don't think it's right to gloat about someone who has lost so much no matter who they are, but you appear to be fine with that.
My opinion of you has not changed either, far from it, to be honest.

Amprodude

tallus wrote: »

I wasn't commenting in your opinion on Bill Cullen, you're missing the point.

Your smug comments regarding his misfortune are what grated me.

Doesn't mater who you were bitching about, I don't think it's right to gloat about someone who has lost so much no matter who they are, but you appear to be fine with that.
My opinion of you has not changed either, far from it, to be honest.

Bill Cullen pi$$ed on everyone who were struggling in Irish society during this recession. There were alot of people affected due to this
recession, alot of people lost jobs, couldnt get jobs and Bill was blaming these people for the economys misfortunes. He said there was no recession and that those unemployed people were the cause of this recession, they werent trying hard enough etc. If he had shut his mouth and less arrogance during those times, people wouldnt be as quick to nail him, they would actually feel sorry for him. He was the master of his own downfall, a smug and arrogant business man and deserves everything he gets now.

Dyr

tallus wrote: »

I wasn't commenting in your opinion on Bill Cullen, you're missing the point.

Your smug comments regarding his misfortune are what grated me.

Doesn't mater who you were bitching about, I don't think it's right to gloat about someone who has lost so much no matter who they are, but you appear to be fine with that.
My opinion of you has not changed either, far from it, to be honest.

So we should be sensitive towards a little bollix who hadn't an ounce of sympathy for anyone else so long as his mouthing off got him on the telly?

He may go f**k himself. Lets see him live by his own advice now. He'll probably get a book deal out of it anyway.

andym1

Amprodude wrote: »

It was you who brought up about his Bills brother and sister passing away NOT me. It still isnt going to change my opinion on Bill Cullen. So if you dont like what you are hearing maybe you should GTF out of here for your own good.

So YOUR opinion is gospel ? Sore Loser because you lost the arguement with your last post. Sometimes less is better.

johnwest288

Bill Cullens Thread 2009 Late Late appearance :cool:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055559745

upstairs for coffee

tallus wrote: »

I wasn't commenting in your opinion on Bill Cullen, you're missing the point.

Your smug comments regarding his misfortune are what grated me.

Doesn't mater who you were bitching about, I don't think it's right to gloat about someone who has lost so much no matter who they are, but you appear to be fine with that.
My opinion of you has not changed either, far from it, to be honest.

You're point/arguement, if there is one, is so flawed.

Other posters have correctly pointed out Cullens smugness and flicking 2 fingers up at the rest of us whilst he was very wealthy.

You have linked this that those posters are somehow glad that Bill has lost everything including his family which is just so wrong.

You obviously have some link to Cullen.

Amprodude

andym1 wrote: »

So YOUR opinion is gospel ? Sore Loser because you lost the arguement with your last post. Sometimes less is better.

Is it me your referring to?

Balmed Out

Begrudgery at its finest.
Don't you just love someone coming down a peg or two

VinLieger

Arrogant troll of a man who deserves to be taken to the cleaners for his arrogance and insulting attitude towards the rest of the country

john_cappa

tallus wrote: »

I'm sure your comment wouldn't be the same if one of those siblings was your brother in law.

People die every day. That is something everyone has to deal with rather than just Bill so he doesnt deserve extra leeway.

I am sorry for his loss but him suffering a loss doesnt excuse all the pontificating he did over the last few years.

The wheel has turned so to speak.

Super-Rush

doughef wrote: »

He is flogging cars in Carlow now.

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/carlowpeople/news/cullen-fits-the-bill-for-meridian-motors-29108925.html


I have to say... I wouldn't buy an air freshner from either of these indivduals

Murphy is definitely the brains of this group thats for sure.

Saying all that he's Carlow's version of Sean Quinn.

john_cappa

Balmed Out wrote: »

Begrudgery at its finest.
Don't you just love someone coming down a peg or two

If Bill "i need warriors" Cullen was a humble character then no one would have taken any enjoyment in his downfall. However given his arrogance there is a delicious sense of irony!

As some one stated though it is those whose jobs will be lost that deserve our sympathy (i bet even a few of them have brothers who died). Bill wont go hungry.

andym1

What goes around etc ! He had it coming

johnwest288

Jackie would want to update her twitter account description :rolleyes: I assume its a fake account

"Bill Cullen's right-hand man. Mega rich"

https://twitter.com/JokeyLavin

johnwest288

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/bill-cullen-and-jackie-lavin-say-they-were-given-no-prior-warning-over-muckross-park-hotel-receivership/


The owners of the Muckross Park Hotel in Killarney which has gone into receivership have accused the bank involved of aggressiveness.
Businessman Bill Cullen and his partner Jackie Lavin claim ACC/Rabobank moved into the business yesterday with no prior warning.

MidlandsM

Bill "up at Four AM Bull****" Cullen ........ no one is untouchable Bill.

He was never as rich as he self portrayed himself to be, he was just another loudmouth businessman up to chin in debt ,swanning round in bentley and a chopper flying down to his hotel in Muckross.....

......the old days wha Bill................Granny Darcy can now stop spinning in her grave.

dickwod1

I used to like Bill "you guys dont know wha tuff times are like" Cullen untill he was on The Frontline saying we go out and work for nothing!

Paddy Cow

dickwod1 wrote: »

I used to like Bill "you guys dont know wha tuff times are like" Cullen untill he was on The Frontline saying we go out and work for nothing!

Love this comment:

When I was a boy we lived in one room - twenty in one bed. We had no mattress or covers. We owned one plate and all ate off it, but we had no food. We got up so early it was yesterday. I walked from London to Scotland for water, with one cup which we all later drank from. My dad shovelled earth digging pits. He dug a hole bigger than what Wembley Stadium would fit into, every day. His entire wages for the year was enough to buy one slice of bread. I tell you, the youngsters have it easy today...

T-K-O

The soundbites are hilarious

PyeContinental

fishy fishy wrote: »

he always came across as nobody ever had it as bad as him, and nobody ever worked as hard as him ... If he had any bit of humility about him maybe people would empathize with him losing everything.

Larbre34 wrote: »

He basically is Boycie from Only Fools, with a mock Dublin cornerboy act, ironically a huge spoofer ...
I really get the sense he had a pathological need to be revered and recognised. The chip on the shoulder that his radio caricature displays isnt too wide of the mark.

This type of pompous, boasting "self made man" always makes me think of Mr Bounderby from Charles Dickens' "Hard Times".

Josiah Bounderby was a man who dismissed the value of education (because he didn't have any, and it made him feel inferior to think that he might be lacking in something of worth). He would bolster his ego at any chance he got by loudly proclaiming how he was a "self made man". He took any opportunity to perpetuate his own myth about how he grew up dirt poor, but by hard work and single-mindedness he picked himself up by his boot-straps and made something of himself. He treated his workers badly and gave out to everyone else for not being inspired to be as successful as he was. Bill Cullen's public persona is such a caricature that it's almost as if he's deliberately modeled himself on this Dickens character.

Well done to Tom Dunne and the rest of them for lampooning his pomposity so brilliantly.

Esel

FTA69 wrote: »

http://www.eapn.ie/eapn/training/income-inequality

Five percent of the population control forty percent of the wealth in a nutshell. Pretty unequal in my eyes.

I am sharpening the tines on my pitchfork and simmering a pot of festering pig/cat ordure as this very moment. Where will we meet? Tell whoever makes the torches to use sulphur and lime this time....

TheLastMohican

Stephen Murphy, I hope you know what you're doing. It's like taking a solicitor on board when you experience a bit of a cash flow problem. A year later the legal eagle is running the show and you're wondering WTF you ever met up with him.

heartseeker

So whats the chances of seeing bill back out on Moore street selling apples for 5 cent ( I've allowed for inflation there from his penny bargain days ....no better chance for him now to lead by example and go work Moore St now for free and shows us how to rebuild :-) maybe a rebranding of granny smiths to granda cullens...could work??if anyone can Cullen Can.....

MadsL

Paddy Cow wrote: »

When I was a boy we lived in one room - twenty in one bed. We had no mattress or covers. We owned one plate and all ate off it, but we had no food. We got up so early it was yesterday. I walked from London to Scotland for water, with one cup which we all later drank from. My dad shovelled earth digging pits. He dug a hole bigger than what Wembley Stadium would fit into, every day. His entire wages for the year was enough to buy one slice of bread. I tell you, the youngsters have it easy today...

Tell that to the kids today and they won't believe ya.

heartseeker

MadsL wrote: »

Tell that to the kids today and they won't believe ya.

Sure why would they...Why would you have to walk to Scotland for water with the Thames there.Unless he walked there on water :-P

Push Pop

andym1 wrote: »

What goes around etc ! He had it coming

A terribly arrogant man whose attitude towards those less fortunate is beyond disgraceful. A graduate of the 'school of hard knocks' that then gloated about his 'success'.
Getting up at 4, 3 or even 2 am might not cut it for him at this stage. I suggest not sleeping at all perhaps and that will take practice. The navy seals have to train by staying up 7 nights in a row in a forest with only a rabbit as a friend. At the end of the 7 nights you then have to kill the rabbit.
Imagine how hard a man he would be then?

Pappa Charlie

Bitter Ireland is alive and thriving! Bill will bounce back and good luck to him fcuk the begrudgers!

gallifreya

Ah here. There's so much hatred for a really decent man that's only guilty of developing a really annoying public persona. I used to work for him years ago and he was great to his staff, hired locally wherever possible and gave local young people in the area trade training - many of whom are now mechanics in various dealerships. He provided jobs for thousands of perople over the years. While he may owe millions, he is just like any other dealer that went bust over the last few years. They were forced to build huge waste of space delaerships by the manufacturer/distributor and the banks were only too happy to throw money at it and get the PGs too. I don't believe Bill owes to any of the bailed out banks (Ulster/Dansk are the ones looking for money). And the work for nothing comment that is consistently swung out of here, may have been misguided but he personally did this to gain experience when starting out and this worked for his generation years ago. It's not much different to the 'internships' that are filling the jobs boards now. I know I'm not going to change anyones opinion but he was an absolute gentleman to work for and I think he looked broken on the Late Late... just running on auto, still spinning the yarns and trying to be positive.

9959

Sam Kade wrote: »

Does Bill wear a wig?

A very good question, don't know the answer, but if he doesn't then he should.

MidlandsM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Bitter Ireland is alive and thriving! Bill will bounce back and good luck to him fcuk the begrudgers!

ahhh, thats easy to say Pappa, but Bill pissed off some many people over the last decades with his "UP @ 4AM" Bolloxology, get up off yer arse wankology, and his general up his own hole "looka me, I'm a warrior me from da tennaments" portrayal ......

as for bouncing back, he might go into politics....he's a big FFailer :rolleyes:

as for business, he's too old now, he's been exposed, and to be honest, he'd be luckly to get credit on a second hand banger 1999 renault clio now.

Hitchens

He seems to be working in Carlow as a car sales person at the moment

Hitchens

BUSINESSMAN Bill Cullen and his partner Jackie Lavin have been thrown a lifeline to save their luxury hotel business.

read more:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/lifeline-for-cullen-and-lavin-in-battle-to-save-luxury-hotel-29133874.html

Three Seasons

Push Pop wrote: »

A terribly arrogant man whose attitude towards those less fortunate is beyond disgraceful. A graduate of the 'school of hard knocks' that then gloated about his 'success'.
Getting up at 4, 3 or even 2 am might not cut it for him at this stage. I suggest not sleeping at all perhaps and that will take practice. The navy seals have to train by staying up 7 nights in a row in a forest with only a rabbit as a friend. At the end of the 7 nights you then have to kill the rabbit.
Imagine how hard a man he would be then?

In what way is he " terribly arrogant"?

I think the reason so many people here are delighted by his financial troubles comes down to their own insecurities. Bill Cullen advises to work hard and work intelligently, many people now are too lazy and resent that. Their insecurities make them feel inferior when Bill Cullen gives advice, they feel they aren't good enough, his advice makes them feel inadequate so they are only too delighted to see him come into financial difficulty, they can now rationalise in their heads that they are good enough, that they are not inadequate. It's pathetic.

What did Bill Cullen ever do to deserve such hatred?

He created many jobs, worked harder than most would in 3 lifetimes, and was very successful, he did things most could never do as they don't have the work ethic or social intelligence.

Three Seasons

MidlandsM wrote: »

ahhh, thats easy to say Pappa, but Bill pissed off some many people over the last decades with his "UP @ 4AM" Bolloxology, get up off yer arse wankology, and his general up his own hole "looka me, I'm a warrior me from da tennaments" portrayal ......

as for bouncing back, he might go into politics....he's a big FFailer :rolleyes:

as for business, he's too old now, he's been exposed, and to be honest, he'd be luckly to get credit on a second hand banger 1999 renault clio now.

He says how he got up at 4am to work hard, so what?

Have a look deep inside yourself and figure out how a complete stranger's harmless comments can cause such a visceral emotional reaction in you?

the purple tin

GET YER APPLES HERE, ONLY A PENNY EACH.
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MidlandsM

Three Seasons wrote: »

He says how he got up at 4am to work hard, so what?

Have a look deep inside yourself and figure out how a complete stranger's harmless comments can cause such a visceral emotional reaction in you?

ohhh get a grip and get off yer high and almighty internet high horse , I think my honest comments on Bill would be like water of a ducks back......shure he has a neck like a jockeys bollox

Three Seasons

MidlandsM wrote: »

ohhh get a grip and get off yer high and almighty internet high horse , I think my honest comments on Bill would be like water of a ducks back......shure he has a neck like a jockeys bollox

The bizarre hatred towards him says a lot more about the haters than it does Bill Cullen.

heartseeker

MidlandsM wrote: »

ohhh get a grip and get off yer high and almighty internet high horse , I think my honest comments on Bill would be like water of a ducks back......shure he has a neck like a jockeys bollox

If Bill and Jackie learn one thing this year,it should be humility and maybe to be thankful for what they have.Telling people to work for free with young kids and hungry mouths to feed isnt smart and one can only imagine vulnerable people that might have took that advice and put themselves at risk of homelessness.Jackie also suggested people should go unweed the roads for free rather than continue searching for paid work.All awhile using every opportunity to self promote and make money by endorsing just about any and every product going.Hypocrisy is bliss.This out of touch, insensitive and publicity seeking pair just got kicked into touch.Maybe now they will think before they speak and consider the lives of those they relied upon to prop up their lavish lifestyles that they got to enjoy for the 4 hours leisure time they could only afford themselves per day.

MidlandsM

Three Seasons wrote: »

The bizarre hatred towards him says a lot more about the haters than it does Bill Cullen.

utter rubbish........i'd say you extracted that from a book of lame naff internet forum retorts.....:pac:

galwayrush

I wish him well.

gallifreya

heartseeker wrote: »

.Maybe now they will think before they speak and consider the lives of those they relied upon to prop up their lavish lifestyles QUOTE]

How exactly were their livestlyles propped up? By the lives of people buying cars?

Three Seasons

MidlandsM wrote: »

utter rubbish........i'd say you extracted that from a book of lame naff internet forum retorts.....:pac:

It's true regardless of being a cliche. The fact a relatively harmless mN can inspire such hate points towards the haters insecurities and how the hatee's behaviours trigger those insecurities.

What exactly did Bill Cullen do that is so worthy of hatred. When he isn't working he seems like a nice guy.

goose2005

gallifreya wrote: »

heartseeker wrote: »

.Maybe now they will think before they speak and consider the lives of those they relied upon to prop up their lavish lifestyles QUOTE]

How exactly were their livestlyles propped up? By the lives of people buying cars?

Well, given that the new car trade in Ireland is a massive carte, then, yes.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/car-dealers-accused-of-costly-price-fixing-cartel-25950495.html

Murt10

IMO, he was selling Renaults. I'm sorry but they are unreliable heaps of s**t
He bought the company for £1 at the time. What would you expect?

Look at the second hand price of a Renault V the second hand price of a relaible car. They are comfortable and "pretty".

You wouldn't buy a Japenese dealership that cheaply

gallifreya

I see. He made money from people buying cars. How terrible.