Your/You're

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:29pm #1

Lets just get rid of you're. "Your not going to eat all that". Doesn't make a difference, sentence still makes sense.

So if the thing makes sense, we all understand what is meant and most people use "your" anyway. Why do we need "you're" ? Why not attribute both meanings to "your" and be done with it ?

As far as I can see the only purpose of having the two of em is so you can tell someone they are wrong if they dont use em correctly. Thats no reason to have a word.

Sinfonia · 13-10-2012 9:30pm

Sounds doubleplusgood.

juan.kerr · 13-10-2012 9:30pm

Let's not.

longshanks · 13-10-2012 9:30pm

Fuck off

banned

PizzamanIRL · 13-10-2012 9:31pm

Exactly, too many people get their knickers in a knot when someone uses it wrong.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:31pm

longshanks wrote: »

Fuck off

I'll av you longshanks !!

juan.kerr · 13-10-2012 9:31pm

longshanks wrote: »

Fuck off

Will do.

frag420 · 13-10-2012 9:33pm

You're wasting your time op!!

Let that be a lesson to you!!

wendell borton · 13-10-2012 9:33pm

"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."

Orwell, 1984.

PizzamanIRL · 13-10-2012 9:33pm

longshanks wrote: »

Fuck off

Big man.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:36pm

frag420 wrote: »

You're wasting your time op!!

Let that be a lesson to you!!

Your wasting your time. We need to make progress as a society and language is an important part of that. Our minds developed through communication and language and to develop our minds we need to add more layers to language.

We need to obtain a higher level of abstraction and where better to start than with more multiple meanings for words.

NoQuarter · 13-10-2012 9:36pm

Your off you're fcuking head!!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-10-2012 9:36pm

You're (You are) and Your are different though. I agree that it causes unnecessary confusion and many people misuse each word, but that's the English language it's complicated. We should all be grateful for being native speakers.

Hal Decks · 13-10-2012 9:36pm

Scioch wrote: »

Lets just get rid of you're. "Your not going to eat all that". Doesn't make a difference, sentence still makes sense.
.....,,,.

That's the thing, it does not make sense. They are two completely different words/expressions with completely different meanings.

Funny how it's always the uneducated who say it doesn't matter!!!!!

fupduck · 13-10-2012 9:39pm

Grammar, the difference between knowing your ****, and knowing you're ****

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:40pm

Hal Decks wrote: »

That's the thing, it does not make sense. They are two completely different words/expressions with completely different meanings.

Funny how it's always the uneducated who say it doesn't matter!!!!!

But it does make sense. You understand what that sentence meant and exactly what I was saying.

It doesnt actually matter from a communication point of view. Only a syntactical point of view.

Mint Sauce · 13-10-2012 9:40pm

Scioch wrote: »

Lets just get rid of you're. "Your not going to eat all that". Doesn't make a difference, sentence still makes sense.

So if the thing makes sense, we all understand what is meant and most people use "your" anyway. Why do we need "you're" ? Why not attribute both meanings to "your" and be done with it ?

As far as I can see the only purpose of having the two of em is so you can tell someone they are wrong if they dont use em correctly. Thats no reason to have a word.

Wise Old Elf · 13-10-2012 9:41pm

OR, we could all learn to use it properly. It's not that complicated.

Third option, nobody is allowed use contractions ever again, punishable by death

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:42pm

irish-stew wrote: »

<clears throat>

Grammar aint the boss of me !

shedweller · 13-10-2012 9:42pm

Feck that. It's the "willy wonkr and the chocolate factory" ****e i want addressed.

vanillr ice cream :mad:

Chuck Stone · 13-10-2012 9:43pm

Your mad if you think their going to change they're ways.

usernamegoes · 13-10-2012 9:45pm

if ucan under stand it wats de harm

Right?

Wrong.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:45pm

Disco Stuart wrote: »

OR, we could all learn to use it properly. It's not that complicated.

Third option, nobody is allowed use contractions ever again, punishable by death

You think people should all learn to pronounce it properly too ? Are accents wrong now ?

Why do you want to control and restrict everything ? What cant you just let it be free to grow and change ?

shedweller · 13-10-2012 9:45pm

grammr overload!!

Ghost Buster · 13-10-2012 9:46pm

Scioch wrote: »

Lets just get rid of you're. "Your not going to eat all that". Doesn't make a difference, sentence still makes sense.

So if the thing makes sense, we all understand what is meant and most people use "your" anyway. Why do we need "you're" ? Why not attribute both meanings to "your" and be done with it ?

As far as I can see the only purpose of having the two of em is so you can tell someone they are wrong if they dont use em correctly. Thats no reason to have a word.

Helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse
Helping your uncle jack off his horse

This stuff is important so rather than attempt to change a language you could just stay awake in school

BrokenArrows · 13-10-2012 9:48pm

Or people could simply learn the meanings.

shedweller · 13-10-2012 9:48pm

Thats the thing. It's a slippery slope towards neanderthal speak.

Shryke · 13-10-2012 9:49pm

Anyone that can't understand and appreciate the difference between these words has a learning disability.

yore · 13-10-2012 9:49pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse
Helping your uncle jack off his horse

This stuff is important so rather than attempt to change a language you could just stay awake in school

It gets especially confusing when your trying to do both at once. Ah, uncle jack and his horse. I remember them well.

Aoifey! · 13-10-2012 9:50pm

Scioch wrote: »

Grammar aint the boss of me !

isn't*

Hal Decks · 13-10-2012 9:50pm

Scioch wrote: »

.....
But it does make sense. You understand what that sentence meant and exactly what I was saying.

......,,.

You have this ar5e ways. It is only understandable because the claim being made is wrong.
When I see such grammar and syntax I don't bother reading any further. I have better things to do than to be deciphering what some illiterate is typing.

It's not difficult to differentiate between your and you're. If you find it is, then you have a problem.

Duckworth_Luas · 13-10-2012 9:51pm

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Exactly, to many people get there knickers in a knot when someone use's it wrong

fyp

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:51pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse
Helping your uncle jack off his horse

This stuff is important so rather than attempt to change a language you could just stay awake in school

What the fcuk kinda school did you go to ?

Wise Old Elf · 13-10-2012 9:51pm

Scioch wrote: »

You think people should all learn to pronounce it properly too ? Are accents wrong now ?

Why do you want to control and restrict everything ? What cant you just let it be free to grow and change ?

I must control everything... people who pronounce the following will be killed (with a nod to mitchell and webb):

Expresso
Nucular
Deteriated
Pacific (when they mean specific)

That is all.

earlyevening · 13-10-2012 9:52pm

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Exactly, too many people get their knickers in a knot when someone uses it wrong.

wrongly

Did you go to primary school?

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:53pm

Hal Decks wrote: »

You have this ar5e ways. It is only understandable because the claim being made is wrong.
When I see such grammar and syntax I don't bother reading any further. I have better things to do than to be deciphering what some illiterate is typing.

It's not difficult to differentiate between your and you're. If you find it is, then you have a problem.

Thats just you being a grammar snob. Nothing to do with not understanding it. And its not that its difficult, its that its unnecessary.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 9:54pm

Aoifey! wrote: »

isn't*

Isnt wha ?

earlyevening · 13-10-2012 9:57pm

"We won't tell you we're judging you, but we will."

yore · 13-10-2012 9:58pm

OP, did your parents ever teach you about grammar? If I incorrectly used "you're" instead of "your" when referring to one of them individually, would they likely ban me?

The last word must be left to a quote from one of the experts:
"ahh heyor, leaaaaveeee irh fuucccckhin houh"

demakinz · 13-10-2012 10:01pm

I don't like you are post op.

the keen edge · 13-10-2012 10:01pm

earlyevening wrote: »

wrongly

Ahem.

Not wrongly; incorrectly:pac:.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 10:01pm

earlyevening wrote: »

"We won't tell you we're judging you, but we will."

Thats what I'm all about. Redefining the word so as to avoid being judged unfairly on its use. If someone says "your" instead of "you're" they dont deserve to be judged. Its unnecessary to enforce the grammar and judge those who dont adhere to it in that case.

frag420 · 13-10-2012 10:02pm

Scioch wrote: »

frag420 wrote: »

You're wasting your time op!!

Let that be a lesson to you!!

Your wasting your time. We need to make progress as a society and language is an important part of that. Our minds developed through communication and language and to develop our minds we need to add more layers to language.

We need to obtain a higher level of abstraction and where better to start than with more multiple meanings for words.

Someone needs a sense of humour transplant!!

earlyevening · 13-10-2012 10:04pm

the keen edge wrote: »

Ahem.

Not wrongly; incorrectly:pac:.

I agree. I was going to post that, but I thought I'd just stick to the adverb issue rather than complicate it further.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 10:05pm

frag420 wrote: »

Someone needs a sense of humour transplant!!

Good point. Sarcasm !! Where would we be without sarcasm !!

You say something grammatically correct but with the complete opposite meaning.

cowzerp · 13-10-2012 10:19pm

Scioch wrote: »

Lets just get rid of you're.

That's Ridonculous, Don't try to change words.

3ndahalfof6 · 13-10-2012 10:21pm

Yisser its fixed, next.

Wise Old Elf · 13-10-2012 10:23pm

cowzerp wrote: »

That's Ridonculous, Don't try to change words.

Ridonculous - it's a perfectly cromulent word

Niles · 13-10-2012 10:38pm

I don't generally pick up people on such errors.

However, the 'there/they're/their', 'you're/your' and the apostrophe rules aren't that hard to learn, seems to be more a case of people not being bothered to learn them than anything else. Even if you didn't absorb the rule in school (for whatever reason) surely they could easily be learned in adulthood, it's not like a whole new language or anything.

Kerrigooney · 13-10-2012 10:57pm

The whole your/you`re thing is pretty annoying but nowhere the level of "could of","should of" or "would of".

That`s just fucking insanity.

Scioch · 13-10-2012 11:01pm

Kerrigooney wrote: »

The whole your/you`re thing is pretty annoying but nowhere the level of "could of","should of" or "would of".

That`s just fucking insanity.

Lets not turn this into a general grammar nazi convention. Lets all get back to agreeing with me that the words "your" and "you're" as used these days only really need to be represented by "your".

Your/You're

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