First competition pistol

cw67irl

Sorry scroll down the shooting threads, 3rd page I think, Thread called sig/gsg 1911

Cavan duck buster

cw67irl wrote: »

Hammerli Xesse, Smith and Wesson, Ruger Mk3, Buckmark,


These are all worth a good look!

I have to admit they are great looking piostols but i would be looking for what in the inside than the outside of them, ya could have the best looking pistol in the world, but that dosen't matter to sh#t if you cant get good groups or get comfortable with it

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

I have to admit they are great looking piostols but i would be looking for what in the inside than the outside of them, ya could have the best looking pistol in the world, but that dosen't matter to sh#t if you cant get good groups or get comfortable with it

They're all great pistols and have won plenty of competitions between them.

BattleCorp

cw67irl wrote: »

If your set on a 1911 clone go for the gsg version its a much better pistol, If you do buy the gsg get the version with the rail underneath the barrel, That allows you to mount optics like a red dot!!

It might be worth checking with your FO before you buy a 1911 some Supers wont licence them due to their "fullbore or tactical" appearance

I might be wrong but the type of red dot sight that you can attach to the GSG underneath the barrel isn't allowed in competitions. The red dot under the barrel is a laser pointer type thing. It shines a red dot out onto the target and that isn't allowed in competitions if I'm not mistaken.

The sights that are allowed don't project a red dot onto the target, they only project a red dot inside a reticle (reflex sight). You see the red dot in your sights but it doesn't shine onto the target.

On the second point above. A Super can refuse to grant a firearm cert if, in his opinion, :mad: a rifle looks like it is a tactical rifle. There is no such law for pistols. It's a pity that the Super who refused the GSG wasn't aware of this fact.

Again, if I'm wrong with any of this info, please feel free to correct me.

cw67irl

Looking at one in Harbour Guns the cradle went around the gsg and "floated" above the slide to house a conventional red dot sight or mini scope.

Im pretty sure your right about not being allowed use a laser though!

Cavan duck buster

Are the red dots/scopes popular with pistols at the competitions or do they require to use iron sight

rowa

They are permitted in nra bullseye competitions.

BattleCorp

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Are the red dots/scopes popular with pistols at the competitions or do they require to use iron sight

They are allowed on all small bore pistol competitions held by the NASRPC.

Scalachi

Red Dot Scopes are allowed in NASRPC competitions, but going forward they will be in their own "Open" category


Regards

DB

Cavan duck buster

Scalachi wrote: »

Red Dot Scopes are allowed in NASRPC competitions, but going forward they will be in their own "Open" category


Regards

DB

Is there any competion in ireland that woun't allow them

clivej

Scalachi wrote: »

Red Dot Scopes are allowed in NASRPC competitions, but going forward they will be in their own "Open" category


Regards

DB

"......but going forward they will be in their own "Open" category"

Please explain more on this.
Looks like a trip to Specsavers is on the cards for me :(:(:(

tommyboy26

Scalachi wrote: »

Red Dot Scopes are allowed in NASRPC competitions, but going forward they will be in their own "Open" category


Regards

DB

i think thats only fair!!:D

Sparks

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Is there any competion in ireland that woun't allow them

Can't use them in ISSF pistol matches - they're iron sights only.

Cavan duck buster

Sparks wrote: »

Can't use them in ISSF pistol matches - they're iron sights only.

Thanks Sparks, The ISSF do they have any matches with .22lr or are the just full bore or both???
Thanks

IRLConor

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Thanks Sparks, The ISSF do they have any matches with .22lr or are the just full bore or both???
Thanks

At international level there's competition with both .22lr and with centrefire. The events are:

*50m free pistol .22lr (Men)
*25m Pistol .22lr (Women)
*25m Rapid Fire Pistol .22lr (Men)
25m Centre-fire Pistol .30-.38 (Men)
25m Standard Pistol .22lr (Men)
*10m Air Pistol .177 (Men & Women)

The ones with asterisks are Olympic events. The others are shot at all other levels. Don't ask me why some events are shot by women and some by men, that breakdown has never made sense to me!

Here, I haven't heard of any ISSF centrefire match being run but there have been the odd few smallbore ones. Contact Rathdrum Rifle and Pistol Club and they'll let you know when the next ISSF pistol competition is likely to be run.

Sparks

The ISSF matches are also shot in a different manner to the other - all one-handed, for a start. There are some pretty excellent training videos here if you want to take a peek.

Cavan duck buster

Was looking a revlovers and i like the smith & western model 617 .22lr,
It holds ten rounds and you can get speedloades fairly cheep at $25 each
That do you guys think?

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Was looking a revlovers and i like the smith & western model 617 .22lr,
It holds ten rounds and you can get speedloades fairly cheep at $25 each
That do you guys think?

I've fired one, it's a good gun but you won't really be shooting any of the competitions with one...just too slow to load it, trigger pull is hard on it too unless you're shooting it in single action. You'll have to have it plugged to five rounds too.

Cavan duck buster

Blay wrote: »

I've fired one, it's a good gun but you won't really be shooting any of the competitions with one...just too slow to load it, trigger pull is hard on it too unless you're shooting it in single action. You'll have to have it plugged to five rounds too.

Can i not just get it as a restricted firearm???

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Can i not just get it as a restricted firearm???

No licences being granted for restricted pistols atm:)

Cavan duck buster

Blay wrote: »

No licences being granted for restricted pistols atm:)

Are they stoping and starting with these pistol regulations much, because it all sounds point less.

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Are they stoping and starting with these pistol regulations much, because it all sounds point less.

Been that way since 2008:)

Cavan duck buster

Blay wrote: »

Been that way since 2008:)

But why then did my F/O said that any Pistol will be restricted even when it is a 5 shot gun that should fall into the un restricted category???

Very confusing

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

But why then did my F/O said that any Pistol will be restricted even when it is a 5 shot gun that should fall into the un restricted category???

Very confusing

If it's a 5 round .22 then it's unrestricted. Anything else is restricted.

Cavan duck buster

Blay wrote: »

If it's a 5 round .22 then it's unrestricted. Anything else is restricted.

But sence you sayed that basicly i could only have a 5 shot gun.

Then there cant realy be a restricted licence appart if the firearms are military looking( as far as i know, they dont like tactucal looking firearms)

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

But sence you sayed that basicly i could only have a 5 shot gun.

Then there cant realy be a restricted licence appart if the firearms are military looking( as far as i know, they dont like tactucal looking firearms)

You can have a 5 shot pistol..if it's a .22lr. If it has a capacity over 5 you have to have it plugged to take 5 rounds

There are restricted licences out there, anyone that had a 9mm, .38 etc before Nov 2008 can keep it on a restricted licence and renew it...but there are no new restricted licences being issued...so no 9mm etc and no .22's over 5 shots.

Cavan duck buster

Blay wrote: »

You can have a 5 shot pistol..if it's a .22lr. If it has a capacity over 5 you have to have it plugged to take 5 rounds

There are restricted licences out there, anyone that had a 9mm, .38 etc before Nov 2008 can keep it on a restricted licence and renew it...but there aren't any new restricted licences being issued...so no 9mm etc and no .22's over 5 shots.

Ya you made your point there, i was trying to say that but ya said it betted than me, do ya think that it will ever change???

Also if for now i can only get unrestricted licence for a .22 pistol, do i have to get a monitor alarm for my house? Seance unrestricted licences don't need to be monitored. Eg i have 3 guns already in my house, so i should only have to get the room that the safe is in alarmed.

I think i am right here but if not let me know.

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Ya you made your point there, i was trying to say that but ya said it betted than me, do ya think that it will ever change???

Also if for now i can only get unrestricted licence for a .22 pistol, do i have to get a monitor alarm for my house? Seance unrestricted licences don't need to be monitored. Eg i have 3 guns already in my house, so i should only have to get the room that the safe is in alarmed.

I think i am right here but if not let me know.

Probably won't change for a few years yet.

Technically you shouldn't need a monitored alarm but the superintendent is free to demand one if he decides it's necessary.

Cavan duck buster

Blay wrote: »

Probably won't change for a few years yet.

Technically you shouldn't need a monitored alarm but the superintendent is free to demand one if he decides it's necessary.

Agh, well then my new supper probably demand the whole house alarmed seance we own a b&b and pub, would monitoring the room in instead of a simple alarm not just do???

Witcher

Cavan duck buster wrote: »

Agh, well then my new supper probably demand the whole house alarmed seance we own a b&b and pub, would monitoring the room in instead of a simple alarm not just do???

Guidelines say the 'place' where the firearms are stored has to be covered by a monitored alarm(if you have to get one)..which I presume means the room but most people will just get their whole house covered by it since you're paying the same amount for the monitoring service either way.