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Too emotional about strangers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    MadsL wrote: »
    Wait.

    What????

    ^^^^^^^^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    ^^^^^^^^^

    Just keep breathing, slowly now, and step away from the keyboard.

    There. Well done.









    (It's ok lads, we got him)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    The only time I care is when it's a person I actually liked. Like when Michael Jackson died I was devastated. Haven't a clue why though :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    No offence but get over it OP. You're emotionally cold, the people you're talking about are the opposite. Everyone is different. If they want to get upset, let them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    blow69 wrote: »
    Seriously, what?

    What I was trying to say is, I would rather spend my time helping a person to die, safe and with comfort, than obsess about taking a life.

    I guess im lost in this thread, small minds, it is the reason this thread exists, how can we make people fell more shiite than they do would be a good name for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    No offence but get over it OP. You're emotionally cold
    I'm not - and I agree with the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    No offence but get over it OP. You're emotionally cold, the people you're talking about are the opposite. Everyone is different. If they want to get upset, let them.

    Can I ask you if you have a habit of talking about deaths and tragedies in work the next day? Not being smart. Genuinely trying to understand why people do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    What I was trying to say is, I would rather spend my time helping a person to die, safe and with comfort, than obsess about taking a life.

    I guess im lost in this thread, small minds, it is the reason this thread exists, how can we make people fell more shiite than they do would be a good name for it.

    OK. That just got even more weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    MadsL wrote: »
    Just keep breathing, slowly now, and step away from the keyboard.

    There. Well done.









    (It's ok lads, we got him)

    Ahhhh sure your wonderful, I just hope your not around when I die and some people are grieving for my daughters because of their loss, and not for me ,

    but you are right stop the love, it might effect you and bring you to the light.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Ahhhh sure your wonderful, I just hope your not around when I die and some people are grieving for my daughters because of their loss, and not for me ,

    but you are right stop the love, it might effect you and bring you to the light.

    I think you need to re-read the thread. Slowly. And carefully. Maybe with someone explaining it.

    Do not go into the light though, that's what I've been told.
    Walk away from the light is generally the advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Some people obviously can't tell the difference between being quietly upset about something but then moving on (if you got into an awful state over every terrible thing happening to people you don't know, you'd never get out of the bed) and being a cold bastard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blow69


    What I was trying to say is, I would rather spend my time helping a person to die, safe and with comfort, than obsess about taking a life.

    I guess im lost in this thread, small minds, it is the reason this thread exists, how can we make people fell more shiite than they do would be a good name for it.


    You're the person with no scope as to more widespread tragedies around the world, choosing only to focus on the medias 'flavour of the week' case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    MadsL wrote: »
    I think you need to re-read the thread. Slowly. And carefully. Maybe with someone explaining it.

    Do not go into the light though, that's what I've been told.
    Walk away from the light is generally the advice.

    yep, keep safe, it seems you are well calmed down now from your original post, I hope I had something to do with that, once you got to guvvel puke out of your insides it seems to have calmed you,

    it was the only reason I let my frog reply to this thread, he begged me , he told (toad) me he could feel your pain and it made him chirp,

    when he chirps I know something is not right, so I let him post for me, he is croaking away in the corner now, happy as a ****t in a towel nappy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    blow69 wrote: »
    You're the person with no scope as to more widespread tragedies around the world, choosing only to focus on the medias 'flavour of the week' case.


    OK thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    yep, keep safe, it seems you are well calmed down now from your original post, I hope I had something to do with that, once you got to guvvel puke out of your insides it seems to have calmed you,

    it was the only reason I let my frog reply to this thread, he begged me , he told (toad) me he could feel your pain and it made him chirp,

    when he chirps I know something is not right, so I let him post for me, he is croaking away in the corner now, happy as a ****t in a towel nappy.

    Is there an address to which you would like us to send the people who can help you with your "frog". Don't be alarmed if they come in white coats, they are here to help.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    MadsL wrote: »
    You (or anyone else) don't get the clueless bint on about it all the time in work, and giving the latest updates?

    They have a way of greeting each other.

    "Jesus, isn't it awful, didja see the news?"
    "God, I know, the poor mother, what mst she be going through"
    "Ah, I know - the poor dear"
    "God. I know"

    20 mins later
    "Jesus, isn't it awful, didja see the news?"


    Build a bridge, get over it...
    Are you that bored you need to listen in on other peoples conversations:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    kupus wrote: »
    Build a bridge, get over it...

    Nothing annoys you ever? Seriously? Wow.
    Are you that bored you need to listen in on other peoples conversations
    You have never worked in a small office have you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,953 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    ^^^^^^^^^

    It's Bart Simpson!!!! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭CavanCrew




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    MadsL wrote: »
    Is there an address to which you would like us to send the people who can help you with your "frog". Don't be alarmed if they come in white coats, they are here to help.

    so their with you right now? its a go go folks take him to the ground, sorry it had to be this way but musts need,

    the world, town, street, is a safer place, I will visit you, can I take Tom (he is my best pal), Mr frog


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    yep, keep safe, it seems you are well calmed down now from your original post, I hope I had something to do with that, once you got to guvvel puke out of your insides it seems to have calmed you,

    it was the only reason I let my frog reply to this thread, he begged me , he told (toad) me he could feel your pain and it made him chirp,

    when he chirps I know something is not right, so I let him post for me, he is croaking away in the corner now, happy as a ****t in a towel nappy.

    I'm all out at the moment, can I please have some of whatever you are smoking because it must be awesome.

    I'd agree with the OP. There's a limit to how much I'll feel bad over the death of a stranger. Yes it's bad but I'm not going to shed a tear for someone I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    WTF? button needed on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Orim wrote: »
    I'm all out at the moment, can I please have some of whatever you are smoking because it must be awesome.

    I'd agree with the OP. There's a limit to how much I'll feel bad over the death of a stranger. Yes it's bad but I'm not going to shed a tear for someone I don't know.

    So someone who you might of aspired to, but never met, never talked to, and they died, you would not shed a tear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    So someone who you might of aspired to, but never met, never talked to, and they died, you would not shed a tear.

    No not at all. Why would I? I didn't know this person in any beyond a public persona that they put out there and I know from meeting people that often the real person is nothing like the persona. I have enough people to grieve for without adding strangers.

    If anyone's interested : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourning_sickness

    I can't find it at the moment but from reading previously that subconciously people feel better when they hear bad news. This can become something of a high and people will seek out bad news in order to get their fix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    It's natural to feel sympathy for people but not to the point of letting it have any effect on my life.
    Some news stories I might shrug off and then some hit the soft side of me but again never to the point of it having an impact on my life.

    I agree with madam x re the pretty thing, it's as if ugly is ok to get raped, murdered etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,329 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I think a lot of the people who post ****e about tragedies have a) are self important & b) are quite possibly unstable.

    The rest of the world feels stuff too. We just don't believe that anyone gives a toss how we feel, because you know what they don't and they have no reason to. The kind of person who posts up personal stuff on Facebook or claims to be upset about a childs death.

    And there are some that are definitely unstable. You know the type. They'll get outraged about anything. The kind of people that demand justice or post on the Facebook page of Mauritius and tell them that everyone in Mauritius is a rapist.

    Unfortunately many have horrible spelling and text type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I think there is often a correllation between those who are "mortified" with grief after a high profile tragedy.and those who are obsessed with celebrity, and take great pleasure in following and "empathising" with the "agonies" of celebrity life.

    I also think watching X factor and other shows helps with the fix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    Madam_X wrote: »
    You're obviously not a mother... :rolleyes:
    Unlike you, mothers have far more empathy than anyone else - it's a scientific fact. That is why they get so upset over misery porn and it is also why they enjoy indulging in same. Endlessly.

    Fcuk NO.... As a mother - I can safely say I not get upset over misery porn, it annoys the sh*te out of me.

    I think the stories that upset me - are ones that trigger stuff in myself. Some stories are nearly guaranteed to upset me, so I avoid them.

    Accidents and tragedies happen - you can't get upset over them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Orim wrote: »
    No not at all. Why would I? I didn't know this person in any beyond a public persona that they put out there and I know from meeting people that often the real person is nothing like the persona. I have enough people to grieve for without adding strangers.

    If anyone's interested : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourning_sickness

    I can't find it at the moment but from reading previously that subconsciously people feel better when they hear bad news, this can become something of an high and people will seek out bad news in order to get their fix.

    I find this strange, most of our interactions with music, movies, neighbors,(not in aussie land)

    when we are young we have some form of an influence, I loved listening to Elvis and watching his movies (the lather was just true loving the man), but when he died I cried, I was on my own and seen it on the beeb,

    I felt very very sad, I dropped a few tears,

    I suppose it was because he brought so much fun and feeling of being happiness to my life, and I felt who is going to replace it, (since that I have realized there is plenty more things to enhance your life), but for me it was a moment I cried for someone I did not know personally and never met,

    but the experience help me threw certain years, I think if you can do it on your own you have the potential to be a leader of a country or a murderer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I find this strange, most of our interactions with music, movies, neighbors,(not in aussie land)

    when we are young we have some form of an influence, I loved listening to Elvis and watching his movies (the lather was just true loving the man), but when he died I cried, I was on my own and seen it on the beeb,

    I felt very very sad, I dropped a few tears,

    I suppose it was because he brought so much fun and feeling of being happiness to my life, and I felt who is going to replace it, (since that I have realized there is plenty more things to enhance your life), but for me it was a moment I cried for someone I did not know personally and never met,

    but the experience help me threw certain years, I think if you can do it on your own you have the potential to be a leader of a country or a murderer.

    (looks for WTF? button again)

    The potential to be a murderer. What. The. F. does that mean?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Knucklecracker


    MadsL wrote: »
    (looks for WTF? button again)

    The potential to be a murderer. What. The. F. does that mean?

    It is a common trait in sociopaths to not have the ability to empathise with others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    MadsL wrote: »
    After a few recent incidents it struck me that over-emotional empathy for strangers "tragedies" drives me nuts. The amount of people who seem incapable of continuing their lives because they "are besides themselves" with gushing empathy for "the poor parents" or "the poor mother" or whatever. I have seen people close to tears about people they do not know.

    Am I just emotionally cold or less susceptible to emotional manipulation by news reporting?

    I've been crying solidly for 15 years now over the Holocaust, Gonna take another 10 or so to get through all 6 million.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Totally agree OP. IIRC in the April thread someone mentioned how they were unable to sleep all night thinking about it and have seen countless other posts over the years how people state they couldn't stop crying over something that happened in the news.

    I can't understand it at all and whilst I will stand accused of generalising it tends to be women who are like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    MadsL wrote: »
    (looks for WTF? button again)

    The potential to be a murderer. What. The. F. does that mean?

    kissing someone to almost death, love, live, life, enjoy, that is all MadsL, nothing more nothing less,

    to live life without a grudge, (whatever that may be), I do not know your age or time spent on this planet,

    but it does come to most, what is the point in worrying and upsetting yourself, do what you can if it helps someone or yourself, fine, it is so much better (happier) to not try to find the faults of others, but to accept them, knowing they will never effect you,

    you know what you are doing and how you are living your live is ok, that is all that counts,

    keep safe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Knucklecracker


    kissing someone to almost death, love, live, life, enjoy, that is all MadsL, nothing more nothing less,

    to live life without a grudge, (whatever that may be), I do not know your age or time spent on this planet,

    but it does come to most, what is the point in worrying and upsetting yourself, do what you can if it helps someone or yourself, fine, it is so much better (happier) to not try to find the faults of others, but to accept them, knowing they will never effect you,

    you know what you are doing and how you are living your live is ok, that is all that counts,

    keep safe.

    Don't spend too much time on boards.ie

    You have to be on TV3 later for psychic readings live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Mother of God, when I think about it, what they did to that man, in front of his wife and children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Don't spend too much time on boards.ie

    You have to be on TV3 later for psychic readings live.

    I was just trying to tell him to grow the fook up, don't be such a pussy (or bitch, his term 2357 posts ago) people cry it is why we have tear glands,

    just like nobody can stop you talking, nobody can stop you crying, you choose the moment and the time,

    choice, choice, choice, I am crying because I am crying, I am sorry it upsets you that I am crying, just because you can not get or be at my level of compassion,

    tomorrow I will not be if you would like to meet me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Mother of God, when I think about it, what they did to that man, in front of his wife and children.

    What that man did to his,,,,,,,,,,,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    just like nobody can stop you talking

    Oh yes I can, welcome to my ignore list, you utter looper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    MadsL wrote: »
    And why don't people who engage in it understand they are sick ones.

    Look at it rationally, hundreds of people die each day, yet these people select one death to obsess over. Isn't that sick?
    speaking from own POV,there isnt any one way to act when things like that happen but it is typical of societies fcked up social rules that people who act like they were directly affected and go into a sort of depression are seen as 'human' whilst people who dont do that are seen as pyschopaths and abnormal.

    due to classic autism am fully lacking in empathy but do have strong morals and a belief in protecting the vulnerable,but have never had the atachment to humans to care for them like people do when stuff gets reported.
    have got a militantly protective and care streak for animals though and cannot read or look at anything to do with animal abuse or neglect,get really p-d off, want to get justice for them shall say, then take them [the animals] in.

    does head in when people associate lacking empathy with pyschopathy,some of us have got very strong morals and woudnt do things to others we woudnt want doing to ourselves,oh but of course,because we arent in mourning,wearing black and snivelling the salty stuff everywhere everytime something is reported we are not human.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Scruffles wrote: »
    speaking from own POV


    Excellent post, I'd thank that twice if I could.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Coffeeteasugar


    Maybe they have above average empathy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Maybe they have above average empathy.

    and below average emotional intelligence.


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