Sminky animation fad

Duggy747

I don't like them myself, I think the Cork accent and bogger slang jokes are done to death. It's the running theme throughout his shorts but people are lapping it up and he seems to have landed on his feet with that agency and job offers.

Not too shabby from just uploading very short clips, me thinks. Well done to him.

--Kaiser--

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

There are better, more successful animators to be jealous of. Like Lauren Faust, Egoraptor, Adam Phillips.
Why would I be jealous of Sminky being owned and controlled by someone else, while I can make whatever I please.
With that logic, you should be jealous of ME. For the little I DO make off animation is more than you do (for animation).

I've probably made more money off my limited film career then you have off animation but no need to go measuring dicks

MikeyS9607

podgemonster wrote: »

I think we found the source here. You've probably been at this a while with little or no success wheras people have identified and through social media popularised the Sminky Shorts. Its not to everyone taste but its popular, look at Mrs. Browns Boys or Kilinascully, I don't like them but someone does. You need to just accept this.

Best of luck with in your video making hobby, maybe one day you'll make it big like Sminky but begruding him his success and scouffing at his animation and content won't do you much good.

I have more fans than Sminky has on Newgrounds, over 100,000 views on NG and YouTube combined. €50 worth of ad revenue in one year. That's good enough for me. I don't animate for fame. I would have made that video whether or not I animate. It can't change the fact that it's not well made.

I have criticized much less successful Flash before.

No one dares touch the censorship Sminky has pulled. I give constructive criticism, this guy takes diwn the video. Someone else screencaps and actually infringes copyright of the shorts, they get to stay.

Scioch

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

I've probably made more money off my limited film career then you have off animation but no need to go measuring dicks

Mondo is that you ??

--Kaiser--

Scioch wrote: »

Mondo is that you ??

Who or what is Mondo?

smash

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

I've probably made more money off my limited film career then you have off animation but no need to go measuring dicks

At least not a public forum!

Scioch

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Who or what is Mondo?

George something or other, he graced our screens a few years back as mondo, the mechanics son on Fair City. Then was in some stupid reality thing where he went to hollywood to kick start his movie career with yer man from boyzone.

You know mondo.

--Kaiser--

Scioch wrote: »

George something or other, he graced our screens a few years back as mondo, the mechanics son on Fair City. Then was in some stupid reality thing where he went to hollywood to kick start his movie career with yer man from boyzone.

You know mondo.

No, but I appreciate the insult

ViveLaVie

Mikey I can't find your video. Could you link? What is your constructive criticism? Your posts here don't read as constructive at all.

The videos are funny because they poke fun at Irish culture. Sure they are exaggerated but that's called artistic licence. The accents are really well done and the scenarios are funny because they are fairly true to life e.g. two auld wans lamenting the loss of a good soul is fairly similar to the scenario where the two mice lament the loss of their friend. Two auld wans shaking their heads and imploring their son to slow down in the car lest he do damage is like the Tommy video. Except the scenarios Sminky created are funnier because they play on these everyday Irish situations by wildly exaggerating them and casting cute animated animals in the roles of the Irish people.

I find them hilarious to be honest. A nice amusing look at Irish society in the same vein as Father Ted.

Shryke

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

I've been making Flash long before Sminky made it big. The whole "accent" thing isn't enough to make an animation good. A ****ing mouse saying that's right isn't funny. The Cock a doodle doo one is just a bunch of heavy chav talk and is downright unwatchable.
I also want to point out Sminky's attempted censorship of my video(s) criticizing him. Not so much of a good guy, now is he? One I got back up, the other is still down because some jackass flagged it as "bullying, threatening, or harrasment". None of which it was. Because he couldn't handle some guy on the internet criticizing him.
For he record, I DO live in Cork. I get the concept. It just so happens that IT'S NOT FUNNY. So I also have to endure knackers quoting Sminky constantly, but that's a different story.

Considering your awful, poor and abusive review, where in the first 5 seconds a message pops up calling Sminkys creator a pussy, I don't blame him for reporting you. God knows what the other video was like.
You sound like a petulant 12 year old God love you.

flutterflye

Davidius wrote: »

Do you live in Ireland? Surely you've interacted with enough people to get some grip on 'bogger' accents. It seems like it'd take an artificial degree of social isolation to be that genuinely inexperienced.

Dafuk is this crap?
I can't make out most of what is being said either.
I just haven't a good ear for accents.
I remember being in a taxi in Cork once and was completely baffled as to what the taxi driver said the entire trip.
Same in Kerry.
Strong accents like that just sound like gibberish to me.

MikeyS9607

Shryke wrote: »

Considering your awful, poor and abusive review, where in the first 5 seconds a message pops up calling Sminkys creator a pussy, I don't blame him for reporting you. God knows what the other video was like.
You sound like a petulant 12 year old God love you.

Lowering yourself to petty insults? How was my review poor? It wasn't abusive, in fact in the actual video itself (not the annotation) I never say anything bad to Sminky on a personal level. And after towing with my right to Freedom of Speech on YouTube, I should tell him to eat me. The other video was me taking the piss out of the idiots who made the stupidest comments on the review. Never personally insulting anyone.
I am 16.

ScumLord

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

I've been making Flash long before Sminky made it big. The whole "accent" thing isn't enough to make an animation good.

That's a matter of opinion though. I find accents hilarious at times.

I like Sminky shorts in small doses, they're not all brilliant but some bring a smile to my face, it's not just a play on the accents but the characters that do talk like that.

2ndcoming

Give us the titles of some of your vids on Newgrounds or YouTube, I'm feeling all Roger Ebert this evening and I'm armed with a webcam

Shryke

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

Lowering yourself to petty insults? How was my review poor? It wasn't abusive, in fact in the actual video itself (not the annotation) I never say anything bad to Sminky on a personal level. And after towing with my right to Freedom of Speech on YouTube, I should tell him to eat me. The other video was me taking the piss out of the idiots who made the stupidest comments on the review. Never personally insulting anyone.
I am 16.

If I critique your review then i'm lowering myself to pretty insults. Right.
Nothing personal, but straight up called him a pussy before you even got rolling. Right.
I don't think there is freedom of speech on YouTube. Some licencing agreement or something. Terms and conditions and all that.
16 kind of makes sense, no offence. It seems a bit like overkill to make 2 videos if you don't mind me saying.

AnonoBoy

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

I am 16.

Oh that explains it.

Wait until you've grown up. You'll then find real things to worry about.













...... like Mrs. Brown's Boys! THAT PIECE OF SH*T!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

MikeyS9607

Shryke wrote: »

If I critique your review then i'm lowering myself to pretty insults. Right.
Nothing personal, but straight up called him a pussy before you even got rolling. Right.
[\QUOTE]
That was an annotation added later AFTER the video was reinstated by Google.

I don't think there is freedom of speech on YouTube. Some licencing agreement or something. Terms and conditions and all that.
[\QUOTE]
Licensing? You need a LICENCE TO ALLOW FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Excuse me while I facepalm. Also, research: http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines clearly says they ENCOURAGE FREE SPEECH and allow defense of unpopular opinion.

16 kind of makes sense, no offence. It seems a bit like overkill to make 2 videos if you don't mind me saying.

The second video wasn't about Sminky. It was about stupid comments.

Adyx

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

Lowering yourself to petty insults? How was my review poor? It wasn't abusive, in fact in the actual video itself (not the annotation) I never say anything bad to Sminky on a personal level. And after towing with my right to Freedom of Speech on YouTube, I should tell him to eat me. The other video was me taking the piss out of the idiots who made the stupidest comments on the review. Never personally insulting anyone.
I am 16.

But why make the review video at all? It took you a whole hour to make a video just because of one internet stranger's youtube videos. Why even react to it when it's easier to ignore? And then you made another video responding to people criticizing your video. :eek: I honestly can't comprehend why you'd go to the effort. I really, really, really fcuking hate X-Factor et al, but instead of acting butthurt reviewing it on Youtube, I ignore it. That way everyone, especially me, is happy.

MikeyS9607

Adyx wrote: »

But why make the review video at all? It took you a whole hour to make a video just because of one internet stranger's youtube videos. Why even react to it when it's easier to ignore? And then you made another video responding to people criticizing your video. :eek: I honestly can't comprehend why you'd go to the effort. I really, really, really fcuking hate X-Factor et al, but instead of acting butthurt reviewing it on Youtube, I ignore it. That way everyone, especially me, is happy.

It's not effort. It's as simple as recording my voice, downloading clips and images, and putting them together by dragging and dropping.

Anyhoo, I've made reviews of bad things for years. I'm not even the first! Bad games, mostly but I sometimes review good stuff too. I wanted to take my reviews in a new direction with movies and animations too, so why not start big? If I wasn't gonna go for Sminky, I would have gone for another animator.

Obliq

ViveLaVie wrote: »

Mikey I can't find your video. Could you link? What is your constructive criticism? Your posts here don't read as constructive at all.

The videos are funny because they poke fun at Irish culture. Sure they are exaggerated but that's called artistic licence. The accents are really well done and the scenarios are funny because they are fairly true to life e.g. two auld wans lamenting the loss of a good soul is fairly similar to the scenario where the two mice lament the loss of their friend. Two auld wans shaking their heads and imploring their son to slow down in the car lest he do damage is like the Tommy video. Except the scenarios Sminky created are funnier because they play on these everyday Irish situations by wildly exaggerating them and casting cute animated animals in the roles of the Irish people.

I find them hilarious to be honest. A nice amusing look at Irish society in the same vein as Father Ted.

Exactly.
Completely agree with you. My young fellas had me laughing all the way to Dublin last week with taking off the cartoons - I'm still laughing thinking about it. Sminky shorts is one of the few things they agree on. Got home and had to watch them and most of them were lovely - very simple yet intelligent take on Irish society. Even the main fella liked them and he never laughs. Good on the creator of them for doing something creative at all and congrats at the over 1,000,000 views

It's hard enough to do anything creative in Ireland without people knocking you down straight away. It's not just RTE policy that has the best of our comedians going to the UK - we have a culture of not giving people a chance to prove themselves over time.

Bipolar Joe

So you're trying to be the AVGN with a cracked copy of Flash, so?

MikeyS9607

2ndcoming wrote: »

Give us the titles of some of your vids on Newgrounds or YouTube, I'm feeling all Roger Ebert this evening and I'm armed with a webcam

[url]Http://mikeys9607.Newgrounds.com/movies[/url]
[url]Http://mikeys9607.Newgrounds.com/games[/url]
(These are better. I don't make many movies anymore since last year.)
[url]Http://Youtube.com/Mikeys9607[/url]
Reviews and ****.

Adyx

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

It's not effort. It's as simple as recording my voice, downloading clips and images, and putting them together by dragging and dropping.

Anyhoo, I've made reviews of bad things for years. I'm not even the first! Bad games, mostly but I sometimes review good stuff too. I wanted to take my reviews in a new direction with movies and animations too, so why not start big? If I wasn't gonna go for Sminky, I would have gone for another animator.

Still far too much time expenditure for something so innocuous and more importantly; something so subjective as humour. Plus, you know what they say about critics.

MikeyS9607

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

So you're trying to be the AVGN with a cracked copy of Flash, so?

First off, my reviews are more indepth than some diharrea jokes. Secondly, I don't use flash to make reviews. I use it to make games/movies.

MikeyS9607

Adyx wrote: »

Still far too much time expenditure for something so innocuous. Plus, you know what they say about critics.

The more the merrier?

Bipolar Joe

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

[URL]Http://mikeys9607.Newgrounds.com/movies[/URL]
[URL]Http://mikeys9607.Newgrounds.com/games[/URL]
(These are better. I don't make many movies anymore since last year.)
[URL]Http://Youtube.com/Mikeys9607[/URL]
Reviews and ****.

Your movies are so exquisitely good that they have an average score of less than three. Good on you.

ScumLord

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

[url]Http://mikeys9607.Newgrounds.com/movies[/url]
[url]Http://mikeys9607.Newgrounds.com/games[/url]
(These are better. I don't make many movies anymore since last year.)
[url]Http://Youtube.com/Mikeys9607[/url]
Reviews and ****.

I don't see how you can complain about smikeys animation skills after watching those. The animation is fairly basic, I'd even say more basic than sminkeys, he went for a particular style and pulled it off well.. Your also illegally using other peoples content (music, characters), Smikey can actually make money off his animations, you can't without running the risk of being sued.

I don't like putting others creative work down but your bringing this on yourself now.

MikeyS9607

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't see how you can complain about smikeys animation skills after watching those. The animation is fairly basic, I'd even say more basic than sminkeys, he went for a particular style and pulled it off well.. Your also illegally using other peoples content (music, characters), Smikey can actually make money off his animations, you can't without running the risk of being sued.

I don't like putting others creative work down but your bringing this on yourself now.

I never said I could do better than Sminky. Saying I can't criticize someone even though I'm not as good as them is like saying "I don't like the president, but I can't criticize because I haven't been president.". Also my works count as Parody.

Scioch

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

It's not effort. It's as simple as recording my voice, downloading clips and images, and putting them together by dragging and dropping.

Anyhoo, I've made reviews of bad things for years. I'm not even the first! Bad games, mostly but I sometimes review good stuff too. I wanted to take my reviews in a new direction with movies and animations too, so why not start big? If I wasn't gonna go for Sminky, I would have gone for another animator.

So your a professional whingebag at the ripe old age of 16. Might I suggest trying to actually create something yourself ? Its all too easy to sit there and whinge about what other people are doing but its essentially a complete waste of everyone's time. The world doesn't need any more critics, youtube certainly doesnt need any more. You'll end up wasting your time whinging, get nothing but abuse for it and end up an angry cynical man with nothing but hatred and contempt for the world.

MikeyS9607

Scioch wrote: »

So your a professional whingebag at the ripe old age of 16. Might I suggest trying to actually create something yourself ? Its all too easy to sit there and whinge about what other people are doing but its essentially a complete waste of everyone's time. The world doesn't need any more critics, youtube certainly doesnt need any more. You'll end up wasting your time whinging, get nothing but abuse for it and end up an angry cynical man with nothing but hatred and contempt for the world.

Strange. I get a majority of praise comments on my other reviews.

lapidifer

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

Strange. I get a majority of praise comments on my other reviews.

Give us a link to your stuff. Otherwise you're just a crank.

Obliq

Scioch wrote: »

So your a professional whingebag at the ripe old age of 16. Might I suggest trying to actually create something yourself ? Its all too easy to sit there and whinge about what other people are doing but its essentially a complete waste of everyone's time. The world doesn't need any more critics, youtube certainly doesnt need any more. You'll end up wasting your time whinging, get nothing but abuse for it and end up an angry cynical man with nothing but hatred and contempt for the world.

May I say that it's not that far from creating something original? "You'll end up wasting your time whinging, get nothing but abuse for it and end up an angry cynical man with nothing but hatred and contempt for the world." Just replace the word whinging with creating and you'll end up with a lot of Irish artist's experiences.
I think at 16, it doesn't hurt to have an opinion and create something from it (even though I haven't watched the clips he made), but it might be something to be more proud of if, at 16, you make something original without criticising someone else's work. Obviously, there's drive and ambition there - but maybe put it to better use than bringing someone else down eh?

Scioch

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

Strange. I get a majority of praise comments on my other reviews.

Well your not exactly hitting the big time. That sminky review is the only thing that has gotten attention and your being hung drawn and quartered for it. The rest nobody seems to give a shít about and even those are only 50/50 with the thumbs. Its the nature of youtube, people will either like your stuff or they will hate it. As you've demonstrated with the sminky review. Kids these days cant just not like something, they have to be actively dismissing it. And it'll all come back around on ya.

ScumLord

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

I never said I could do better than Sminky. Saying I can't criticize someone even though I'm not as good as them is like saying "I don't like the president, but I can't criticize because I haven't been president.". Also my works count as Parody.

Fair enough but your criticizing someone else work when I don't think you fully understand the work he's put into it.

Scioch wrote: »

So your a professional whingebag at the ripe old age of 16.

Now it all makes sense. I thought I was class at that age too, he'll learn humility, probably the hard way.

MikeyS9607

Scioch wrote: »

Well your not exactly hitting the big time. That sminky review is the only thing that has gotten attention and your being hung drawn and quartered for it. The rest nobody seems to give a shít about and even those are only 50/50 with the thumbs. Its the nature of youtube, people will either like your stuff or they will hate it. As you've demonstrated with the sminky review. Kids these days cant just not like something, they have to be actively dismissing it. And it'll all come back around on ya.

The sminky video isn't my most viewed. It's my Crappy Lamd Before Time Games video. And I make money off that.

As for whoever asked for links to my videos where the comments are either praise or not just petty insults:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=roOaSUPV69E
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E2SKm2f47JE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H_1FmtzmGCg

mikom

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

The sminky video isn't my most viewed. It's my Crappy Lamd Before Time Games video. And I make money off that.

As for whoever asked for links to my videos where the comments are either praise or not just petty insults:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=roOaSUPV69E
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E2SKm2f47JE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H_1FmtzmGCg

You have the voice of an angel.....

Shryke

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

Shryke wrote: »

If I critique your review then i'm lowering myself to pretty insults. Right.
Nothing personal, but straight up called him a pussy before you even got rolling. Right.
[\QUOTE]
That was an annotation added later AFTER the video was reinstated by Google.

I don't think there is freedom of speech on YouTube. Some licencing agreement or something. Terms and conditions and all that.
[\QUOTE]
Licensing? You need a LICENCE TO ALLOW FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Excuse me while I facepalm. Also, research: http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines clearly says they ENCOURAGE FREE SPEECH and allow defense of unpopular opinion.

The second video wasn't about Sminky. It was about stupid comments.

What does it matter when you added personal abuse? It's still no less there and it is abuse of a personal nature. You're claiming that you're not being personally abusive.

As far as it goes I don't believe you are entitled to free speech on Youtube but I haven't actually read the fine print. I'm sure they say they encourage free speech but the site is also moderated somewhat and can be flagged for content. We're talking about a website not the American constitution. Caps lock is never necessary btw.
Don't accidentally punch yourself in the head when you facepalm. That would be awful.

Mars Bar

Mikey is getting what he wants here. Everyone asking for his video to view it is increasing his views.

I love Sminky Animations!

Scioch

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

The sminky video isn't my most viewed. It's my Crappy Lamd Before Time Games video. And I make money off that.

Come on 6 comments and 10 votes on your most viewed clip. And even 5 of those were down votes. I think its safe to say bar the sminky one people are fairly indifferent to your stuff.

As far as viewer feedback the sminky one is the only one people responded to and not in a good way.

MikeyS9607

Shryke wrote: »

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

Shryke wrote: »

If I critique your review then i'm lowering myself to pretty insults. Right.
Nothing personal, but straight up called him a pussy before you even got rolling. Right.
[\QUOTE]
That was an annotation added later AFTER the video was reinstated by Google.


What does it matter when you added personal abuse? It's still no less there and it is abuse of a personal nature. You're claiming that you're not being personally abusive.

As far as it goes I don't believe you are entitled to free speech on Youtube but I haven't actually read the fine print. I'm sure they say they encourage free speech but the site is also moderated somewhat and can be flagged for content. [\QUOTE] Read the page. It says cear as they they allow freedom of speech as long as it isn't hate speech. YouTube isn't privately owned. My video has been screened by YouTube when Sminky false flagged my video for copyright infringement. I'm surprised YouTube doesn't terminate his account. Like they say they can do if the copyright infringement report tool is abused. Guess he makes them a fair amount of $$$$. If they saw a problem they would have had it taken down.

We're talking about a website not the American constitution. Caps lock is never necessary btw.
Don't accidentally punch yourself in the head when you facepalm. That would be awful.

YouTube, or should I say Google, are an American company. YouTube is NOT privately owned.

MikeyS9607

Mars Bar wrote: »

Mikey is getting what he wants here. Everyone asking for his video to view it is increasing his views.

I love Sminky Animations!

Sminky made a thread on Boards to post his videos. Also, I don't mind people liking Sminky Shorts, but I can still criticize it.

ViveLaVie

Mikey I'd appreciate it if you could respond to my post.

Also, youtube do not allow total freedom of speech. You can't personally abuse, slander or incite hatred.

MikeyS9607

ViveLaVie wrote: »

Mikey I can't find your video. Could you link? What is your constructive criticism? Your posts here don't read as constructive at all.

The videos are funny because they poke fun at Irish culture. Sure they are exaggerated but that's called artistic licence. The accents are really well done and the scenarios are funny because they are fairly true to life e.g. two auld wans lamenting the loss of a good soul is fairly similar to the scenario where the two mice lament the loss of their friend. Two auld wans shaking their heads and imploring their son to slow down in the car lest he do damage is like the Tommy video. Except the scenarios Sminky created are funnier because they play on these everyday Irish situations by wildly exaggerating them and casting cute animated animals in the roles of the Irish people.

I find them hilarious to be honest. A nice amusing look at Irish society in the same vein as Father Ted.

You can like them. Just like I can not like them. The whole Irish humor thing is simply not amusing to me. I can't stand the overplayed accents. Without them, They're nothing. I have never experienced any of the scenarios you've mentioned, so it's not relatable to me.

MikeyS9607

ViveLaVie wrote: »

Mikey I'd appreciate it if you could respond to my post.

Also, youtube do not allow total freedom of speech. You can't personally abuse, slander or incite hatred.

I did neither. Calling someone a pussy is simply me saying "You couldn't handle this video's criticism of you, could you."

ViveLaVie

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

You can like them. Just like I can not like them. The whole Irish humor thing is simply not amusing to me. I can't stand the overplayed accents. Without them, They're nothing. I have never experienced any of the scenarios you've mentioned, so it's not relatable to me.

But how is that criticism constructive? Where do you live if you don't mind me asking? I just find it hard to believe that an Irish person could be so divorced from society that they have never come across any similar situations to the ones in the shorts.

The accents aren't overplayed either imo. It's the scenarios that I was referring to when I was talking about exaggeration. And can you link to the video? I can't find it at all.

Do you watch Father Ted?

ViveLaVie

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

I did neither. Calling someone a pussy is simply me saying "You couldn't handle this video's criticism of you, could you."

It counts as personal abuse and name-calling. Online bullying if you will.

Obliq

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

You can like them. Just like I can not like them. The whole Irish humor thing is simply not amusing to me. I can't stand the overplayed accents. Without them, They're nothing. I have never experienced any of the scenarios you've mentioned, so it's not relatable to me.

That's a fair comment and a good criticism. However, in my view, it's going a little too far to knock an artist in their work with a pisstake. Hopefully that isn't a generational thing, because artists have enough trouble (in my experience) with thinking their own work is sh*t without everyone else telling them it is too. Y'kno that saying "If you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all"? Well, it's not true for abusive to people stuff, obviously - but for people who don't harm anyone, I reckon that's a good policy.

Mikey, you're obviously an opinionated and talented young fella. How about making some use of that instead of the "video response" option? I think IMO that youtube do no one any favours with that option.

Obliq

ViveLaVie wrote: »

But how is that criticism constructive? .........
Do you watch Father Ted?

I'm not sure criticism has to be constructive. In my opinion, it just has to be fair. And I think what he said there is fair, no matter where he comes from or what he has watched, in his experience those words come across as true for him. He does not relate to it. Fair enough.

BUT! He should realise that others can and do. Criticism is very subjective (look that up Mikey) but using words like "pussy" just shows his age. Not good. Not mature. Not interested.

I'm interested in Mikey's opinion if he would hold back from personalising his criticism and sticking to the facts (like how it affects/does not affect him).

ViveLaVie

Obliq wrote: »

I'm not sure criticism has to be constructive. In my opinion, it just has to be fair. And I think what he said there is fair, no matter where he comes from or what he has watched, in his experience those words come across as true for him. He does not relate to it. Fair enough.

BUT! He should realise that others can and do. Criticism is very subjective (look that up Mikey) but using words like "pussy" just shows his age. Not good. Not mature. Not interested.

I'm interested in Mikey's opinion if he would hold back from personalising his criticism and sticking to the facts (like how it affects/does not affect him).

Sorry Obliq I don't think I made myself clear. I was responding to Mikey specifically saying that his criticism was constructive. I agree that it is fair enough if he doesn't relate (although I am surprised and a bit curious about that).

That's it exactly. The shorts appeal because they do resonate with a large cross-section of Irish society. And yes personal abuse is unwarranted and undermines Mikey's criticism of the shorts.

I am also interested in his opinion and how it is formed (hence my question about where he lives although he doesn't have to answer that obviously).

ScumLord

MikeyS9607 wrote: »

I can't stand the overplayed accents. Without them, They're nothing.

Overplayed accents are common in allot of comedy, think Cletus from the Simpsons.