Man fined £355 for throwing 1/2 pint of beer over a noisy baby's head.

Queen-Mise

Boombastic wrote: »

Nothing like the righteous indignation of parents who think everyone else should be tolerant of little Johnny, while at the same time neglecting responsible parenting and bringing children in to an adult environment because they are entitled to

Is there a connection between these comments and what I have posted in this thread?

Ghost Buster

MaxSteele wrote: »

How many times does something have to be explained ? Read the thread.

I've read the thread and most people disagree with you. A grown man throwing beer over a grizzling babys head is dispicable and cowardly.
I'd like to see the same old c.u*n't throw a pint over a noisy adult male and try kicking his mate.
Hard man with babys and mothers;)

A_Sober_Paddy

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This guy certainly didn't take to a screaming baby when he was having his lunch. He had the right name,

Grandfather Danny Polak snapped when 15-month-old Finlay White would not stop grizzling. When Finlay’s mother Rachel Atkin confronted him he kicked her up the backside, a court heard.

The row started when Ms Atkin ordered food at the bar of the Ernehale pub in Arnold, Nottinghamshire. She and her sister-in-law had been sitting near Polak and his wife. The elderly couple were angry that she had left Finlay. ‘It was then that Finlay started to whine as though he was missing his mother,’ said Catherine Picardo, prosecuting.

‘The defendant, with a half-full pint in his hand, approached the table and poured it over the baby’s head, which caused him to scream.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/915132-man-fined-355-for-throwing-beer-over-toddler-s-head

Children should not be allowed in pubs/restaurants.

FanadMan

MaxSteele wrote: »

Well I've never and will never do that. I laugh at a baby getting beer on it's head and get called a "sociopath" by one and compared to Dexter by you. It's gas how worked up some of you get over a a baby's wet head.

I'm just thankful I don't have to endure this level of trivial bitching and dryness on a daily basis.

Sure I'll PM you when we hit up the next creche.

Only compared you to Dexter because you compared your humour to his "Dark Passenger" which, as I'm sure you know, is Dexters way of naming the desire to kill that's inside him.

Ghost Buster

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Children should not be allowed in pubs/restaurants.

In your opinion. But fortunately the law states other wise. It also states that it is illegal to assault an other person.
Ass holes shouldnt be allowed into bar or restaurants either but hey ho.....

MaxSteele

Ghost Buster wrote: »

I've read the thread and most people disagree with you. A grown man throwing beer over a grizzling babys head is dispicable and cowardly.
I'd like to see the same old c.u*n't throw a pint over a noisy adult male and try kicking his mate.
Hard man with babys and mothers;)

I never even debated the facts about the man. I stated I found it funny as well as wrong. Que in the moral indignation from those who didn't find it funny. Fair Enough.

Honestly why would I care what people on a faceless internet forum call me for laughing at a baby getting lager poured on it's head ?

Ghost Buster

MaxSteele wrote: »

I never even debated the facts about the man. I stated I found it funny as well as wrong. Que in the moral indignation from those who didn't find it funny. Fair Enough.

Honestly why would I care what people on a faceless internet forum call me for laughing at a baby getting lager poured on it's head ?

Laughing at a baby getting a pint of beer thrown over it by a adult at lunch time in a pub is screwed up as well you know..

Scruffles

what a complete and utter dck.

people who said the baby was left on his own need to read this comment from that page-

And to the idiot below she hardly 'left the baby about' he was with his auntie while his mother ordered food!

am profoundly impaired by sound sensitivity through autism and hyperacusis,plus regulary have epileptic seizures with todds paralysis triggered by sound.....yet,if am ever anywhere in the public and a baby or child starts screeching or whatever,am not going to expect the baby/child to go somewhere else because they are part of community/society to,am restraint walked out of the building by support staff and put it down to a part of life.
if the older niece of mine [near/two years of age] visits here and she has a bit of a shoutyfest,am not going to smack her one or throw something at her,have always left the room until she calms down.

he has got feck all excuse for what he did,absolutely disgusting behavior to take it out on a vulnerable littlen who has no understanding of the world,no other way of communicating or expressing themselves.

the woman was in there eating not getting pised whilst neglecting the child,pub food woud be better for them than a lot of fast food places so its a better choice and it gives the mum some respite from being stuck in her home all the time seeing the same walls.

the old codger shoud be made to do community service in a nursery,that will teach him.

dj jarvis

dark crystal wrote: »

Sorry, how is bringing a child into a family friendly pub/restaurant at 1pm for lunch irresponsible parenting exactly? Oh that's right, it's not, because as you pointed out yourself, they're perfectly entitled to.

Perhaps the child was hungry and that's why he was grizzling - does that mean he deserves a pint poured over his head and that his mother deserves to be physically assaulted? The only person showing righteous indignation in this story was the anti-social old bastard, who you would think might be used to small children himself, being a grandfather and all.

+1

MaxSteele

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Laughing at a baby getting a pint of beer thrown over it by a adult at lunch time in a pub is screwed up as well you know..

It's completely wrong. But the baby wasn't physically harmed or mentally scarred. Agitated by a cold drink going over his head at worst.

Boombastic

dark crystal wrote: »

Sorry, how is bringing a child into a family friendly pub/restaurant at 1pm for lunch irresponsible parenting exactly? Oh that's right, it's not, because as you pointed out yourself, they're perfectly entitled to.

Perhaps the child was hungry and that's why he was grizzling - does that mean he deserves a pint poured over his head and that his mother deserves to be physically assaulted? The only person showing righteous indignation in this story was the anti-social old bastard, who you would think might be used to small children himself, being a grandfather and all.

Why not bring a child to a place which is a child friendly environment, where there is no chance of meeting some one who is drunk? I know why, most parents do what they want and what suits them, instead of thinking what the is best for the child and what the child might enjoy more

Parent centered parenting

Would you bring your child to a lap dancing club or a nightclub?

Stercus Accidit

A fine for two assaults, one of which against an infant, the other against the mother? I hope that she takes a civil case against this guy, by the sounds of it he is a violent anti-social scumbag regardless of age. Skangers grow old too didn't you know, easily identified, they'll be the ones in pubs attacking babies.

Madam_X

A family-friendly bar/restaurant open during the day that expressly welcomes small children is comparable to a nightclub/stripclub which tends to open when the baby would be in bed?
If someone brought a baby to such a venue they would be asked to leave anyway; not so this pub/restaurant evidently. Quite the level of disingenuousness to stoop to, to say the least.

I'm not aware of most parents doing what they want and disregarding others. That's just thrown out there by people who can't and don't want to accept that toddlers and babies don't have boundaries no matter how hard their parents try to quieten them - anti children folks basically, making it a bit easier to understand why some misfortunate children get beaten. Or else they're the types who'd become insufferable themselves about their kids once they become parents. There is no evidence to suggest the woman in this case was disregarding others - her 16-month-old was just doing as children that age do.

dj jarvis

MaxSteele wrote: »

It's completely wrong. But the baby wasn't physically harmed or mentally scarred. Agitated by a cold drink going over his head at worst.

Did you just read that statement and then post it ?

so because pouring a cold drink on a baby does not harm it, it has some mitigating circumstances to do so ?

never - you don't do it , its not the cold drink , its the emotion behind it.
this guy was raging , so much so that he went up to a random infant and poured a beer onto it , sorry but in what fing universe is that a condonable action or motive?

what will he do the next time ? slap it a bit ?

kids are allowed in pubs until a certain time , if they bother you, then dont go until after - that simple

Boombastic

Madam_X wrote: »

A family-friendly bar/restaurant that expressly welcomes small children is comparable to a nightclub/stripclub which tends to open when the baby would be in bed?
If someone brought a baby to such a venue they would be asked to leave anyway; not so this pub/restaurant evidently. Quite the level of disingenuousness to stoop to, to say the least.

I'm not aware of most parents doing what they want and disregarding others. That's just thrown out there by people who can't and don't want to accept that toddlers and babies don't have boundaries no matter how hard their parents try to quieten them - anti children folks basically, making it a bit easier to understand why some misfortunate children get beaten. There is no evidence to suggest the woman in this case was disregarding others - her 16-month-old was just doing as children that age do.

What is the attraction in a pub for a 15 month old child?

Smidge

Boombastic wrote: »

What is attractive in a pub for a 15 month old child?

Eh, lunch????

Boombastic

Smidge wrote: »

Eh, lunch????

Plenty of other places to eat lunch, which cater for children and where no alcohol is served,

again, why the pub?

Chucken

Smidge wrote: »

Eh, lunch????

The Irish mind cant deal with that you see?

Pub---> Drink!

I wonder if the laughing boys on this thread have ever travelled outside of Ireland?
(Apart from "the lads holiday)

The best way to socialise a baby is to expose them to normal life..which includes eating out...NOT having a ramdom arsehole throwing drink on them.

Madam_X

Boombastic wrote: »

What is the attraction in a pub for a 15 month old child?

The attraction to families of a family-friendly pub/restaurant is... that it's family friendly

No point pretending it's a bar with a pool table and darts board whose only food is crisps and peanuts - it's been well established it's not.

Chucken

As is normal with Wetherspoons they have an extensive childrens menu. Very nice it looks too.

http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/food/menu/breakfast/breakfast-9

MaxSteele

dj jarvis wrote: »

Did you just read that statement and then post it ?

so because pouring a cold drink on a baby does not harm it, it has some mitigating circumstances to do so ?

never - you don't do it , its not the cold drink , its the emotion behind it.
this guy was raging , so much so that he went up to a random infant and poured a beer onto it , sorry but in what fing universe is that a condonable action or motive?

what will he do the next time ? slap it a bit ?

kids are allowed in pubs until a certain time , if they bother you, then dont go until after - that simple

I ****ing laughed at an old man pouring beer over a baby's head. Can't believe I'm still having to explain myself 12 pages in.

That's it. Get over it already. You don't need to lecture me on the wrongs of it If you don't mind.

I wonder how many of you have laughed at Frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr material ?

Smidge

There are plenty of small towns and villages both here and the UK where the pub is a great place to have a home cooked lunch(mash, veg, nice bit of roast!)and the only other "eatery" in the town would be maybe a greasy spoon type place(grand if you fancy a fry-up)but not the same as a half decent pub lunch.

If the pub are happy to have children on the premises, which is a such in this case, then the people who have a problem with children in this place should go to a "bar" if they want to sit in a boozer and get scuttered at lunch hour.

Smidge

Chucken wrote: »

As is normal with Wetherspoons they have an extensive childrens menu. Very nice it looks too.

http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/food/menu/breakfast/breakfast-9

It's not great to be honest:D

Chucken

Smidge wrote: »

It's not great to be honest:D

Its better than Maccy D's and for a young child to be in a place where he sits at a proper table and learns social skills is still a big plus.


(Wetherspoons is great for a cheap dinner out)

Heroditas

Chucken wrote: »

Its better than Maccy D's and for a young child to be in a place where he sits at a proper table and learns social skills is still a big plus.


(Wetherspoons is great for a cheap dinner out)

Never go to the Wetherspoons in Gloucester.
<shudder>

Chucken

Heroditas wrote: »

Never go to the Wetherspoons in Gloucester.
<shudder>

Too late! Was in called "The Regal" I think?

Cheap beer and good company, it was great

dj jarvis

MaxSteele wrote: »

I ****ing laughed at an old man pouring beer over a baby's head. Can't believe I'm still having to explain myself 12 pages in.

That's it. Get over it already. You don't need to lecture me on the wrongs of it If you don't mind.

I wonder how many of you have laughed at Frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr material ?

the difference between make believe and reality i understand fully

im lecturing no one , i was commenting your post , not the previous ones

calm down dear

chasm

Queen-Mise wrote: »

Give me strength - they are some right gobsh*tes and idiots on here.

* The mother left the table to order food, the sister-in-law was still there.
* The child wasn't on its own.
* The child was grizzling - this is not roaring crying. Grizzling means to cry quietly.
* There is NOTHING WRONG with a child being in a pub during the day for food. It is considered HEALTHY for children to socialize and such things. And the person who said that McDonalds was the only place to bring kids :eek: - this same person would probably be giving out if the child was obese:rolleyes:

* That man who threw the beer over the baby is a tosser. Assaulting a baby. What a brave, brave man he is. Complaining to the staff would have been the appropriate thing to do - not fcuking attack a baby.
Actually a sensible person would have seen that as soon as the mother had finished ordering the food/drinks and come back to the table - the baby would have stopped.

It is a wonder some of the people here aren't writing letters of support to the b*tch in the states who got 99 years for abusing the 2 year old.

Thank God! I can't believe i had to read 74 post before someone pointed out the child was left with the sister-in-law.

Lots of kids get "grizzly" at that age when their Parent leaves them, even if only for a few minutes, it's called seperation anxiety and i believe most children suffer from it at some stage of their infant/toddler years.

fasttalkerchat

He should have poured the beer over the mother for failing to control her child and half a pint of petrol over her for naming it Finlay... what a ****ing name.

Queen-Mise

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

He should have poured the beer over the mother for failing to control her child and half a pint of petrol over her for naming it Finlay... what a ****ing name.

What should she do - superglue the sixteen months's old lips shut so it can't cry and maybe also stick it's hands to a wall so it can't move...


I am getting a feeling of deja vu here

Irish Guitarist

It's disgusting that he got away so lightly with assaulting a defenseless child.

fasttalkerchat

Queen-Mise wrote: »

What should she do - superglue the sixteen months's old lips shut so it can't cry and maybe also stick it's hands to a wall so it can't move...


I am getting a feeling of deja vu here

Try to entertain or distract the child. If that doesn't work leave the room so people can enjoy their food in peace.

Queen-Mise

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Try to entertain or distract the child. If that doesn't work leave the room so people can enjoy their food in peace.

Thank fcuk - someone gave a sensible suggestion for the child. Was getting really sick of some of the attitude against kids here. I can't get over the man's reaction - they can't have been in the pub long if the woman was still ordering drinks and food, so at most five minutes.

BizzyC

What a prick, it's not the child's fault.

Throw the beer over the mother.

Ghost Buster

Boombastic wrote: »

Plenty of other places to eat lunch, which cater for children and where no alcohol is served,

again, why the pub?

Restaurants serve alcohol.
Basicly what you propose is that an asshole minority should be accommodated.
Most pubs , in the UK in particular are as much about the food as about drink and have childrens menus.

Pubs in England are generally family friendly. Many even have a children's menu. In England, it's just another place to eat. A lot of people don't even drink alcohol if they're in for lunch or dinner.

Andy!!

Lads, for advice on how to deal with Boombastic and Maxsteele, please refer to the first line in BizzyC's sig.

gbee

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

It's disgusting that he got away so lightly with assaulting a defenseless child.

Na, it would have been the same thing if he tripped over the pram. He has not got off lightly he was arrested, that also is not light and the civil award will follow, the mother will get a few grand and she'll be in the pub all the time after that and chisler will probably be joining her as he's got a taste for the stuff now too!

Irishcrx

This thread has really brought out the toss pots on after hours. I'm betting the majority of these baby assault support posts are from people under 20 and tbh if I was under 20 again I'd probably be saying things equall as stupid. But come on you can't be that brain dead to think that assaulting a 15 month old baby by throwing a pint over his head and kicking his mother up the backside is a hero thing to do.

Yes , familys go out for carverys on a Sunday and bring the children , big deal. If there is a baby crying next to you , move table it's a baby and guess what?....they cry when there upset , you can't always reason with children or flick a switch to stop them and that doesn't make them a bad parent. Pouring a pint over his head wasn't going to stop him either.

And in true after hours style sure why stop at a pint , say if he's 2 we'll go for a full pint over the head , 2 and a half sure we'll give him a slap , 3 sure wouldn't it be grand if we started kicking him in the ribs until he stops crying.

Seriously , no matter what way you look at it assaulting a baby in any way shape or form is not on. Had that have been your brother , sister , cousin you wouldn't be laughing about it. Any father on here will tell you had some c**t thrown a pint over my baby's head and kicked his moter up the arse I'd have dragged him outside and beat 50 shades of that grey hair out of him.

tipptopper

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Children should not be allowed in pubs/restaurants.

Glad you stayed sober enough paddy to be able to post here, and for what you have brought to the table, a big thank you :rolleyes:

to the “people” on here condoning what this prick did, well done, I’m sure your families must be very proud of you. I hope the shoe is never on the other foot someday and your child is on the receiving end of a c. u. n .t like this.

I’ll say this though, if someone did that to my child, they would be visiting a dentist for a new set of china, that’s after the stint they would spend in hospital. Assault or pick on me if you feel brave enough, assault or pick on my children and you will suffer the consequences, end of.

ringadingding

I can overlook the childish ignorant stupid replies here about children not allowed in restaurants etc...

But throwing a pint of beer and scaring a baby is horrendous.
Not being a keyboard warrior here, I would have kicked the **** out if him if I saw it, and it would have been twice the kicking had it been my child.

What was he thinking ?

Madam_X

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

He should have poured the beer over the mother for failing to control her child

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Try to entertain or distract the child. If that doesn't work leave the room so people can enjoy their food in peace.

Read the article and thread. Child less than a year and a half, left with aunt while mother went to make an order... nothing problematic here folks. Just the asshole who poured the drink on the kid.

Neyite

I'm just wondering what he hoped to achieve by throwing a pint over a whingy baby? Did the baby stop whinging once he was soaked in chilled sticky liquid? If anything, I'd say that would have made the kid go into full meltdown mode so it defeated the purpose.

The way I see it was, probably out shopping or whatever and the kid was getting hungry - ah here we go, this place has a kiddie menu - in they go, mum goes up to the bar to order the food, leaving the kid with his aunt. Thats a matter of minutes, and the child was whinging a bit, not crying or screaming.

And this guy is a grandad. Hope social services are keeping a close eye on him - I'd hate to see what he does when one of his grandkids misbehaves at home if thats how he treats a strangers child in public.

I hope he is barred from every halfway decent pub in the town - who'd want that clientele if they are that volatile to a baby?

cometogether

If that was my child I'd put a full pint on this clown's head, glass and all.

Lollipops23

Jesus I'm disgusted by so many responses on this thread- so the woman is to blame for having her child with her for dinner in a pub? Since when is that a crime? Loads of pubs do family friendly carverys at the weekend, some of them even have play areas outside for kids.

That man genuinely deserves to have the **** kicked out of him, it's the only language thugs like him understand. And even after drowning the toddler in beer, he assaults the mother? Fine specimen of a man, he is.

I'd be mortified if I was his wife, although maybe she's just as bad.

Scumbag.

Plazaman

Mr Polak has absolutely no right to be allowed into a drinking establishment if thats the way he treats a beer. Sacriledge.

Oh ya, don't throw things at babies.

MaxSteele

Plazaman wrote: »

Mr Polak has absolutely no right to be allowed into a drinking establishment if thats the way he treats a beer. Sacriledge.

Oh ya, don't throw things at babies.

No. Just don't try take the piss in this thread. It's not worth your while. Trust me.

PizzamanIRL

What's more shocking is the fine. Why £355? Why not £350?

Irishcrx

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

What's more shocking is the fine. Why £355? Why not £350?

Nobody is allowed use the term three fitty anymore...so it's three fitty five

Ghost Buster

MaxSteele wrote: »

No. Just don't try take the piss in this thread. It's not worth your while. Trust me.

Oh but the other post was actually funny.