Serbia V England U21

citytillidie

Just listening to the Radio here and it has said lots of trouble at the end of the game with Danny Rose exchanging words with the Serb fans.

Fights breaking out between management and all

Mikeyt086

Was watching the match, it was an absolute freak show.

Tom Ince set up Conor Wickham for an empty net tap in in the 94th min (Serbian keeper was up for a corner) and England won 2-0 on agg. The Serbian fans started hurling missiles at the celebrating players.

The final whistle blew and the next shot we saw was Serbian subs swinging punches and kicks at the English players, Danny rose was very wound up and made it clear that he was being racially abused, but from what I could see there were a number of Serbian players, both subs and players who were running around swiping at the English players and staff. Most of the English lads were trying to get out of there, but a few of the coaching staff were having a full on scrap with Serbian officials. It was mental.

Honestly, it looked like the Serbian subs who started it but I'm not sure. Most of the Serbian guys on the pitch had dropped to their knees in despair, and these lads in bibs were going around swinging for the English players. The fans were horrible too, Danny Rose got a 2nd yellow after the whistle for booting the ball into the crowd, I'm guessing it was to do with the racial abuse he claimed to be on the receiving end of.

Again I'm not sure what the hell started it but the Serbian subs definitely escalated it. Police will have to be brought in to make sure they get out safely.

EDIT: Just seen the footage again, it reeks of bad-loser syndrome from the Serbian subs and a few of the lads who were on the pitch. Some of them quite frankly looked barbaric in the way they were swinging for the England players' heads. Poor Paul Ince seemed really shaken when they came back to the studio, understandably so as his kid was out there.

Oat23

I clicked on the trend a few minutes ago and one of the tweets read something like this:

Why are England sending their U-21s to a country in the middle of a civil war anyway??

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barone

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/connor-wickhams-goal-danny-roses-red-card-brawl-amid-racist-claims-england-u21-v-serbia-u21/

watch it here, crazy serbs

Paully D

At least we're safe in the knowledge that FIFA will sort them out by giving them a £1,000 fine. That'll teach them.

niallo27

It all looks fairly harmless to me, the fighting I'm talking about now.

Hammer Archer

Exactly how many chances will Serbia get? They were fined for racism 4 or 5 years ago with the U21s as well and everyone remember what happened in the Italy game in the last qualification campaign. Surely it's time for a ban on their teams.

mike65

Serbs are basically the scum of Europe but its not PC to say so.

bohsboy

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Surely it's time for a ban on their teams.

True, beyone a joke now. Pure filth.

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

Serbs are basically the scum of Europe but its not PC to say so.

More incorrect than "not PC".

CSF

That Danny Rose red card had better be rescinded.

CSF

CSF wrote: »

That Danny Rose red card had better be rescinded.

****ing sad isn't it?

citytillidie

mike65 wrote: »

Serbs are basically the scum of Europe but its not PC to say so.

Do you know anyone from Serbia?

CSF

Deleted User wrote: »

****ing sad isn't it?

Of all the players to punish. Ridiculous. I ****in hate the world sometimes

CSF

CSF wrote: »

Of all the players to punish. Ridiculous. I ****in hate the world sometimes

It's when droolers defend referees making those kind of "correct" decisions that annoys me. There's players, subs, sideline staff all rowing and he chooses to deal with someone kicking a ball away when the match is finished. But technically he was correct.

niallo27

CSF wrote: »

That Danny Rose red card had better be rescinded.

It was a second yellow he got for kicking the ball into the crowd, you can't do that ****, I'm sure any player that was fighting will get a worse ban.

Beefy78

CSF wrote: »

That Danny Rose red card had better be rescinded.

It was a second yellow wasn't it? In which case it can't be rescinded.

Aidric

mike65 wrote: »

Serbs are basically the scum of Europe but its not PC to say so.

Ignorant much?

CSF

niallo27 wrote: »

It was a second yellow he got for kicking the ball into the crowd, you can't do that ****, I'm sure any player that was fighting will get a worse ban.

I'm not so sure of that. To be honest, there is really no protection from racism for footballers these days. So disappointing. His reaction is nothing I wouldn't expect from anyone.

niallo27

CSF wrote: »

I'm not so sure of that. To be honest, there is really no protection from racism for footballers these days. So disappointing. His reaction is nothing I wouldn't expect from anyone.

I don't blame him for doing it but you can't expect him to get away with it either.

Dempsey

heard some mad stuff happened in this match, paul ince is calling for a 10 uear ban! emtional reaction because his son is involved but surely competitive bans of some sort are needed now. a hard stance needs to be taken

CSF

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't blame him for doing it but you can't expect him to get away with it either.

I can. I don't, but I should be able. He has been put in this situation directly as a result of FIFA treating racism like a minor offence. Poor ****er should never have to deal with this. Serbia should finally be expelled from UEFA/FIFA competition after this, follow it up with the other countries who are unable to house games featuring players of different ethnicities and football will be a better sport.

mayordenis

This is just a ****ing joke, it puts into perspetive our whinging about Trapatoni. These young lads have to put up with **** like this and worse they react (in a fairly timid fashion kicking a ball in anger) and are the ones punished. If that was a yellow, I don't know why the ref didn't red card every single player who threw a punch.

Absolute disaster, no place for this inside or outside of football.

AdamD

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't blame him for doing it but you can't expect him to get away with it either.

lol.

Can't expect somebody to get away with kicking the ball away when the game was over? lol.


With or without any provocation that's not a yellow card.

PhlegmyMoses

Agree totally with CSF here. How you can expect someone to keep their cool when they're being racially abused? I am not a black man so I am not going to sit here and say how he should and shouldn't react. But it pisses me off when I hear it, so I can't even begin to imagine how it would make him feel.

We can talk about how it's technically the right decision to give him the second yellow but it seems incredibly harsh. nobody can stop a crowd or a player from saying that stuff as it is happening so it must be incredibly frustrating. I'm surprised it was only the ball he kicked.

Gbear

Dempsey wrote: »

heard some mad stuff happened in this match, paul ince is calling for a 10 uear ban! emtional reaction because his son is involved but surely competitive bans of some sort are needed now. a hard stance needs to be taken

At the very least all serbian fans should be banned from matches (closed doors in home games, no tickets for away games) for a year or 2.

The fighting from the players and staff should be dealt with on an individual basis. It looked like most of the players on the pitch weren't acting the bollocks.

PhlegmyMoses

Gbear wrote: »

At the very least all serbian fans should be banned from matches (closed doors in home games, no tickets for away games) for a year or 2.

The fighting from the players and staff should be dealt with on an individual basis. It looked like most of the players on the pitch weren't acting the bollocks.

They were banned before right? Didn't the NI fans go to Serbia and they were the only people in the ground? About 400 lads tucked in a corner of a vast stand without a home fan in sight.

CSF

A 1 or 2 stadium ban will achieve nothing. As far as I can tell Serbia is never going to be a safe place for people of certain races to go to play football, as such they shouldn't be allowed compete.

Stick them in with the African teams for WC qualifications. Away matches only. That'll teach them.

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Martin Thomas, left, a member of the England Under-21 coaching staff, is headbutted by Serbia's Andrija Milutinovic after England's win. Photograph: Paul Childs/Action Images

Jesus christ

mike65

citytillidie wrote: »

Do you know anyone from Serbia?

Aidric wrote: »

Ignorant much?

Well are you going to say their are not racist scum? They can only be judged by their track record which is obvious to a blind man. Not that they'll get anything more than a slap across the wrist so pathetic are FIFA/UEFA regarding racism.

Father Damo

Dempsey wrote: »

heard some mad stuff happened in this match, paul ince is calling for a 10 year ban!

If we copped a 10 year ban would it make a difference to anything?

SantryRed

If I was in the same situation as Danny Rose I would have floored the ref for booking me after what went on.

Nalz

just disgraceful

England U19 game Serbia were done for racism and/or a brawl at the end of the game for £16,500

Then there's the Italian game that was abandoned

ArmaniJeanss

mike65 wrote: »

Serbs are basically the scum of Europe but its not PC to say so.

I thought back in early June you said it was the Ukranians and Poles who were the worst, when you were pontificating from your position of total cluelessness.

niallo27

SantryRed wrote: »

If I was in the same situation as Danny Rose I would have floored the ref for booking me after what went on.

What would that prove, the ref didn't abuse him, he kicked the ball into the crowd. How do you expect to get away with that.

Dolph Starbeam

mike65 wrote: »

Well are you going to say their are not racist scum? They can only be judged by their track record which is obvious to a blind man. Not that they'll get anything more than a slap across the wrist so pathetic are FIFA/UEFA regarding racism.

What? Because of this every Serb is racist scum?

greendom

Trilla wrote: »

just disgraceful

England U19 game Serbia were done for racism and/or a brawl at the end of the game for £16,500

Then there's the Italian game that was abandoned

Were they put on probation after these events ?

Fight_Night

Des wrote: »

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Jesus christ

A damning picture. There will be serious pressure to deal with Serbia, hopefully they are made an example of.

KingdomYid

Fight_Night wrote: »

A damning picture. There will be serious pressure to deal with Serbia, hopefully they are made an example of.

Hopefully they throw the book at them with a seriously long ban.

mixed up

I can't believe i just wasted time looking at that video I would say the fight between the school girls in cork was more of a scrap than that.I guess you guys don't go to much gaa matches if you think people should be banned for that

el dude

Des wrote: »

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He's clearly just enquiring about what fabric softener he uses.

CSF

mixed up wrote: »

I can't believe i just wasted time looking at that video I would say the fight between the school girls in cork was more of a scrap than that.I guess you guys don't go to much gaa matches if you think people should be banned for that

Nah only like good sports.

CSF

niallo27 wrote: »

What would that prove, the ref didn't abuse him, he kicked the ball into the crowd. How do you expect to get away with that.

This has already been answered by numerous people in different ways in this thread.

kingshankly

No home games for 5 years should be the least they get

The_Kew_Tour

No home support for next 2 campaigns in all competitions. **** them sick of hearing nothing but bad news from them

RayCon

Blatter will advise they should just sort it out with a handshake*








*then get back to the serious business of collecting brown envelopes

GavRedKing

Surely they should be banned at this stage for at least 1 campaign.

Kirby

kingshankly wrote: »

No home games for 5 years should be the least they get

Too extreme. Five years? What would that achieve except to ostracise the serbian team and fans from the global game? They would re-enter after five years and be even worse. You have to dole out a punishment that they can learn from to make things better.

Home games closed to fans for 12 months. It would send the right message. Probation for the next few years with the serbian FA being told that any further instances will see the excluded from all international competitions.

BrookieD

digusting from the Serb Team last night and fans, will be very suprised if FIFA or UEFA do anything other than a crap low level fine... But on the other had FIFA throw the book at players for advertising non authorised products.. both UEFA and FIFA have a shed load of work to do to get control of this type of carry on by certain countries..

Dam sure they would act if this happened in Wembley and the english fans started there old ways.. thank god the english game and fans have changed.

RikkFlair

Sore Loser of the Year award goes to Serbia. ****ing disgraceful stuff, watched a youtube video taken in crowd and the monkey chants are deafening.

As for the headbutt photo, christ almighty. What century are these ****ers living in? :mad: