IT Poll: FF +4 SF -4

queen of Umaill

Just how the hell is FFAil up on any points?

StillWaters

People leaning right on the run up to a budget?? I just can't make sense of the electorate in this country, and that's after 20 years in active politics.

Sand

Within the margin of error tbh. Fianna Fail are down to their core base vote, which is grey and getting greyier as Bertie might say. I've said it before, the fears of Zombie FF are overdone.

Every single hardship visited upon the Irish state over the past 6-7 years can ultimately be traced back to Fianna Fail and the Greens. The Greens have thankfully been wiped out electorally. Fianna Fail are on the ropes and its all that's holding them up. The focus has moved off Zombie FF because they are currently irrelevant - they are ordinary knuckle dragging TDs in a Dail where no one cares what the hell the Dail thinks because power is centralised within the cabal of the FG-Labour-Civil Service.

Once you get into an electoral cycle, Zombie FF will be exposed to the real feelings of Irish people again. Fianna Fail is a brand name for cronyism, failure and incompetence. Its just the true believers cant comprehend it yet.

thebman

Sand wrote: »

Within the margin of error tbh. Fianna Fail are down to their core base vote, which is grey and getting greyier as Bertie might say. I've said it before, the fears of Zombie FF are overdone.

Every single hardship visited upon the Irish state over the past 6-7 years can ultimately be traced back to Fianna Fail and the Greens. The Greens have thankfully been wiped out electorally. Fianna Fail are on the ropes and its all that's holding them up. The focus has moved off Zombie FF because they are currently irrelevant - they are ordinary knuckle dragging TDs in a Dail where no one cares what the hell the Dail thinks because power is centralised within the cabal of the FG-Labour-Civil Service.

Once you get into an electoral cycle, Zombie FF will be exposed to the real feelings of Irish people again. Fianna Fail is a brand name for cronyism, failure and incompetence. Its just the true believers cant comprehend it yet.

I know a young guy, younger than me that swears FF can do no wrong and that it is FG that are responsible for the situation we are in because they weren't vocal enough in opposition.

Makes little sense to anyone outside of FF or a FF family but there you go.

Sierra Oscar

Sand wrote: »

Within the margin of error tbh. Fianna Fail are down to their core base vote, which is grey and getting greyier as Bertie might say. I've said it before, the fears of Zombie FF are overdone.

The fastest area of popularity growth for FF in certain areas of Ireland has been between the 18 - 24 age group. Furthermore, within Dublin the fastest area of popularity growth is within the working class section.

Sand

@Sierra Oscar

The fastest area of popularity growth for FF in certain areas of Ireland has been between the 18 - 24 age group.

Going from 0 to 1 is a growth rate of infinity. Going from 1 to 2 is 100% growth. It only gets harder after that.

Basically - you're talking about spinning statistics. Its not saying much if Zombie FFs fastest growth area is in an area where they have exactly zero impact. And which is the least likely to vote. What do you think is going to bring them out? Martin? A guy who is old enough to be their grandfather and who confines himself to perfunctory yelps about the unfairness of it all? Please - Zombie FF are dead in the water. At best, along with Labour you will serve as a footnote to the rise of Sinn Fein.

Lets face it, if you challenged a Sinn Fein politician to define their principles they could fall back some something visionary - a united Ireland, an equal society etc. A Zombie FF rep cant talk about vision - what is it that they want to accomplish that they couldnt accomplish through 14 years of unbroken power in the midst of an unparralled economic boom? Was their some party grafter that they left behind when the spoils of electoral victory were being shared out? Was there some level of incompetence they left unbreached? Is that what Zombie FF see left as unfinished business?

Face it Sierra Oscar - Zombie FF stand for nothing except greed, graft, corruption and incompetence. If you truly seek the best interests of the Irish people then quit Zombie FF.

Idbatterim

People leaning right on the run up to a budget?? I just can't make sense of the electorate in this country, and that's after 20 years in active politics.

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