3rd Presidential Debate (Please see MOD COMMENT post #175)

Side Show Bob

Romney just fuxed himself

Nash Bridges

Fox news, "Obama seems to know an awful lot about foreign policy for someone not born there"

Spanish Johnny

Isn't it interesting how candidates never refer to Republican's or Democrats in an opposing sense. It's all very individual.

happyclapper

I love teachers... I love cars... I love girls and drink

Black Swan

Closing statements.

MadsL

Romney playing a violin right now...

I love teachers...vote for me.

Hazys

Moderator burning Romney now

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"You are familiar with shipping jobs overseas because you invested in companies that shipped jobs overseas."

Ye BEAUT Barry.

joseph brand

Romney; "I love teachers."

I'm not sure that the love is reciprocated.

Side Show Bob

Hazys wrote: »

Moderator burning Romney now

He's disappointing now and the mod should

DrumSteve

i love cars. some of my best friends are cars.

MadsL

if he says 5 points i/ll explode

Hazys

How does Romney have the audacity to think people were going to forget that he said "Let Detroit go bankrupt"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=0

MadsL

torch? is he talking about the olympics again.

jimmyjon

I've a feeling Obama has undone the damage of debate #1 tonight. Fairly lame closing statement from Mitt.

Jayob10

Romney will start parading the family now

ProudDUB

Don't you know it !

There are the sons. All five of them. And the assorted spouses and sprogglets. Zzzzz......

Thank fcuk TV3 are sticking with CNN. I couldn't stomach the Fox News apologists right now !

Hazys

I can only imagine the conversation over the fake smiles and handshakes went something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN-_cZNDy0w

MadsL

Ann Romney wearing something from 1956

Jayob10

Sky News reckon Romney won as he appeared "presidential" and because Obama failed to paint him as a war monger

And the co-analyst is agreeing

mind boggling

jimmyjon

Of course they are. Romney could **** his pants on stage and it'd still be "Romney just about shaded it".

MadsL

Next up welterweight bout between Tagg Swinger Romney and The Great American Hope...12 rounds championship decider...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/tagg-romney-wanted-swing-obama-article-1.1186354

DrumSteve

Jayob10 wrote: »

Sky News reckon Romney won as he appeared "presidential" and because Obama failed to paint him as a war monger

And the co-analyst is agreeing

mind boggling

Really?

lol.

Black Swan

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The YouTube coverage thinks Romney won it as well. These people are worse than marketing people. I hope they die from ass cancer, or something similarly hilarious.

On a more serious note, I don't think Barry O could have done any better tonight, he destroyed Romney on everything.

Duck Soup

Al Sharpton making a useful comparison on MSNBC - like a boxer that knew he couldn't win, Romney came to jab occasionally and hug Obama close and smother him at all the other times.

That was the greatest bunch of waffle by a US presidential candidate on foreign policy ever seen. Never before has a man taken so much time to say so little. 'Generic pablum', in the words of Ed Schultz.

jimmyjon

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The YouTube coverage thinks Romney won it as well. These people are worse than marketing people. I hope they die from ass cancer, or something similarly hilarious.

On a more serious note, I don't think Barry O could have done any better tonight, he destroyed Romney on everything.

I can't believe anyone could say Romney won. Obama was superior in every sense and you could tell by Romney's face he was rattled.

Hazys

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The YouTube coverage thinks Romney won it as well. These people are worse than marketing people. I hope they die from ass cancer, or something similarly hilarious.

On a more serious note, I don't think Barry O could have done any better tonight, he destroyed Romney on everything.

I dont get it either, i dont see how anybody no matter how biased could say Romney won

At least in the 2nd debate Fox said it was draw...Obama was way stronger tonight than on the 2nd debate

MadsL

LOl at this rweet

Coincedently, "pulling out responsibly" is Mitt's contraception plan for women. #dbate #usethe19th

MadsL

Black Swan wrote: »

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And now I have seen this.

Sits up straight. Behaves.

MadsL

factchecking

MadsL

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/260783-romney-knocks-obama-for-abrupt-withdrawal-from-iraq

Mitt Romney on Monday attacked President Obama for an "abrupt withdrawal" of troops from Iraq, arguing in a major foreign policy address that U.S. gains in the country are being eroded.

Romney said progress made by U.S. troops is being lost by a weakening democracy in the country, a resurgent al Qaeda and the rising influence of Iran there since U.S. troops left last year.

"America’s ability to influence events for the better in Iraq has been undermined by the abrupt withdrawal of our entire troop presence,” Romney said in his foreign policy speech at the Virginia Military Institute in Lexington, Va. “The president tried — and failed — to secure a responsible and gradual drawdown that would have better secured our gains.”

jimmyjon

This debate should also rebut the myth that Obama's not a good debater. He delivered his pre-planned material very clearly and came up with some top notch off-the-cuff responses.

MadsL

President not ally of Israel

president will "create daylight between US and Israel"


No source for this according to NBC

Duck Soup

Snap polls are out as to who won the debate.

CNN

Obama 48%
Romney 40%

DrumSteve

cbs say obama won this among uncommited voters 53% to 23% (with the remainder think it was a tie)

Side Show Bob

Black Swan wrote: »

MOD COMMENT:
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Will endeavour to do as directed

K-9

The army needs more horses and bayonets.

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MadsL wrote: »

And now I have seen this.

Sits up straight. Behaves.

Ditto.

Romney's got a five point plan: 1) Jerrrrbs! 2) China! 3) Underpants! 4) ? 5) Profit!

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I should also point out that the guy who owns FOX News owns Sky, so they were never going to go for Barry O.

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Duck Soup

The horses and bayonets exchange is going to be the one that's replayed endlessly tomorrow.

After that, Romney appeared to spend the rest of his debate with his tail between his legs.

Brian?

A very strange debate. I need to watch it again and see if I can find somewhere Romney didn't shift his previous position on foreign policy to agree with Obama.

Romney the chameleon actually did a great job for himself, he disavowed enough previous positions to actually appear moderate and reasoned.

Overheal

Obama just turned to the crowed and cocked his eyebrows when Romney said Iran was now operating 10,000 centrifuges. It was like Obama was saying "...Ladies." Its not a figure to be proud of! And he didn't refute the number.

K-9 wrote: »

The army needs more horses and bayonets.

It was a cute zinger but then he went to far with it in follow-up comments, and came of as belittling after a point. "We have these things called aircraft carriers now." Going a little too far on that momentary buzz of his.

Whats worse is Romney gave a very fair statement about the state of the Navy and Air Force, referring not only to it's size but it's age, which ties directly into the rebuttal Obama made. A newer Zumwalt class destroyer can do the same job of 6 1950s era destroyers, using 450 personnel vs. 2000, and in 1/9th the time (source: PopSci Oct 2012). Based on Romney's argument however age of the fleet was accounted for in his number of 312 ships to 285 actual.

The media won't be talking about that though tomorrow. They'll be talking about horses.

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Last one, I promise.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/39268_289483654495236_2143225254_n.jpg

Brian?

CBS poll of undecided 53-23 to Obama. A drubbing.

Duck Soup

The fascinating thing will be to watch how the narrative plays out in the next 24 hours. If the Romney third debate performance is deemed to be have been woeful, the media will pick it up as a change in the dynamics and direction of the race.

Spanish Johnny

Don't think the FP debate significantly changes the election though

joseph brand

Romney promises to look into these so called "ships than planes land on".

jimmyjon

Duck Soup wrote: »

The fascinating thing will be to watch how the narrative plays out in the next 24 hours. If the Romney third debate performance is deemed to be have been woeful, the media will pick it up as a change in the dynamics and direction of the race.

I can see this changing the dynamics back in favour of Mr O. So much of this is visual and he was so relaxed, in command and forceful, he'll have reassured a lot of voters that they're not on the verge of re-electing a dithering pansy. Pure speculation and amateur psychology admittedly but my hunch is that Obama may have clinched the election tonight.