Viscious thug sexually assaults 17 year old, and walks free!

Death and Taxes

This violent thug has previous convictions including 4 for assault, he sexually assaulted a 17 year old girl, and bought his way out of a 4 year sentence if he pays €15,000 to his victim within a year.
This is sick, it's like a licence to attack people.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/sex-attacker-to-escape-jail-by-paying-15000-3263766.html

TwoShedsJackson

He's walking 15,000 then.

crazygeryy

that judge should be raped.

Grayson

and he's planning on getting married... He's a catch.

blackdog2

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/woman-got-nasty-bang-from-shutter-3263769.html

Meanwhile a woman walks into a shutter and gets more than a victim of sexual assault.

To put it another way, Tuthills got punished more because someone walked into a shutter, than a man with previous, for assaulting a teen because he wanted to make her inferior. Hope he meets the judge up a dark alley, then we can see some real justice in sentencing

krudler

Just goes to show how out of touch Irish judges are, slap on the wrist for serious assaults, jail time for importing garlic or not paying tax.

the keen edge

Many previous convictions, four for assault, then an sexual assault on a 17 year old.

I'm confused: can somebody please explain how this guy didn't get a jail sentence?

.jacksparrow.

What a charming man.nice we pay for his drug and drink parties,which involves him sexually assaulting a young girl during.

Scum...

westies4ever

Actually can't believe this! How in the name of god did the judge think a custodial sentence wasn't warranted?

eviltwin

This is becoming more and more common now, have a few bob to give to your victim and you escape jail. I know jail space is hard to find but there are some criminals who should be behind bars. What kind of message does it send out to rich lads? Its okay to abuse people because you'll just have to pay a fine? Its sick.

Fuinseog

did the victim accept the money? the going rate for rape is going down all the time. it used to 75k to rape someone, now only 15k.

Grayson

blackdog2 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/woman-got-nasty-bang-from-shutter-3263769.html

Meanwhile a woman walks into a shutter and gets more than a victim of sexual assault.

To put it another way, Tuthills got punished more because someone walked into a shutter, than a man with previous, for assaulting a teen because he wanted to make her inferior. Hope he meets the judge up a dark alley, then we can see some real justice in sentencing

Thant is nuts. She got a nasty bang? Look where you're walking you silly bint!

Plazaman

What a double ordeal for the poor victim as the court turns around and says heres €15,000. So if she doesn't take it, tough, they'll decide where it goes. If she does take it, it'll just be expensive prostitiution in the mind of the scumbag who assaulted her and a licence for him and his knuckle dragging ilk to do it again.

"it must have been the hormones"......"I wanted to make her feel inferior because I am not on the same level emotionally."

What a douche.

Sugar Free

He is from Baldoyle originally and was always...troubled, to put it mildly.
Wasn't surprised at all to see his name in the papers either, it's not the first time.

Death and Taxes

Sugar Free wrote: »

He is from Baldoyle originally and was always...troubled, to put it mildly.
Wasn't surprised at all to see his name in the papers either, it's not the first time.

Hormone troubles by the sound of it!

DipStick McSwindler

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Show Time

The judge is at fault here.

cournioni

Fcuking scum.

hardCopy

Move this to the Legal Discussion forum and watch all the legal eagles defend the indefensible.

The judge should be removed.

mackg

eviltwin wrote: »

This is becoming more and more common now, have a few bob to give to your victim and you escape jail. I know jail space is hard to find but there are some criminals who should be behind bars. What kind of message does it send out to rich lads? Its okay to abuse people because you'll just have to pay a fine? Its sick.

Fuinseog wrote: »

did the victim accept the money? the going rate for rape is going down all the time. it used to 75k to rape someone, now only 15k.

This case goes to show that the case Fuinseog mentioned above wasn't really an example of "one law for the rich" as was widely claimed around here at the time but just another example of the inexplicably lenient sentences that are handed out for crimes of this nature.

SEPT 23 1989

You have to wonder what is going on in the background with these judges

They dont seem to treat sex crimes with the gravity they deserve

K-9

I think there was another thread on this recently so closing this for now. Oops, this is another case again so opened again!

connundrum

K-9 wrote: »

I think there was another thread on this recently so closing this for now. Oops, this is another case again so opened again!

€15,000 fine. Sorry

connundrum

connundrum wrote: »

€15,000 fine. Sorry

No, if we're to follow our esteemed justice system, he should go to jail for that

Sexual assault though? well that's just fine and dandy

Overthrow

From the article;

Judge Nolan noted that while Griffiths was collecting this money or repaying loans to family he would have little or no money to spend on drink or drugs. He said if the woman did not wish to receive the money the court would decide where it would go.

How fcking offensive to the victim; we'll give you 15k, if you accept it you're accepting it as a valid payoff for your ordeal. If you don't accept it, psh, we'll just give it to someone else while your attacker is free to go.

And no money to spend on drink and drugs? Someone with 4 previous assault convictions might just decide to go out and mug someone or break in to their house if he's a bit short on cash.

And then it'll be another victim, and another useless sentence most likely.

This guy shouldn't be anywhere near the streets with the risk he poses to the average citizen.

I suppose the countdown starts to the next assault, then?

gobnaitolunacy

How do the judges get their qualifications? Collect 5 special crisp packets or find them in a box of cornflakes?

FFS.

mike65

This judge has plenty of form for "eccentric" sentences.

Easy Rod

This chap was the boogey man around where i grew up, didn't matter what you were doing, if you heard his name mentioned you just legged it home!

DipStick McSwindler

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pickarooney

Does house arrest exist as a sentence in Ireland?

edt: although I guess you could just stop paying your mortgage and get evicted in that case...

Carlos_Ray

Check-list for an Irish rapist.

• save money- check
• rape girl- check
• pay girl- check
• go home for a ham sandwich-check

This country really is getting beyond pathetic.

davet82

Can anybody explain the judges reasoning for such a sentence?

I'm not trying to sound sensationalist at all, infact I generally hate sensationalism, but I saw something on Facebook which for once I actually agreed with. It said something along the lines of "when did we start turning our sexual assault victims into prostitutes, since when was it ok to sexually assault women as long as you pay them afterwards"

Something has to change here. This cannot continue.

Abi

He is originally from Dublin but has been living in Louth with his girlfriend for the last six years. The couple plan to get married.

Yeah, he's marriage material all right.

wes

This is an absurd sentences, especially as he seems to have past convictions. There needs to be some sort of independent review of judges, if some of them engage in this kind of carry on with sentences.

saiint

**** putting him in jail
hang him

LordSutch

Fuinseog wrote: »

did the victim accept the money? the going rate for rape is going down all the time. it used to 75k to rape someone, now only 15k.

He sexually assualted her for sure, but I'm not sure he actually raped her? thankfully she had a male friend with her, which presumably prevented her from being raped? big apologies if I have go this wrong as I haven't been following the full story . . .

Carlos_Ray

wes wrote: »

This is an absurd sentences, especially as he seems to have past convictions. There needs to be some sort of independent review of judges, if some of them engage in this kind of carry on with sentences.

I couldn't help but think of the murder of Jill Meagher when i read the story.

Her killer had previous. The guy in this case is obviously a dangerous individual too and he should be locked up. If he goes on to harm another girl, the judge should be struck off.

omahaid

Considering the effort we went to in order to cut their pay I can't imagine we'll be able to remove a judge for any reason. Hence the crazy sentences - no accountability.

LittleBook

krudler wrote: »

Just goes to show how out of touch Irish judges are, slap on the wrist for serious assaults, jail time for importing garlic or not paying tax.

mike65 wrote: »

This judge has plenty of form for "eccentric" sentences.

Innocent Handbag Snatcher

Garlic Man

Mick Wallace gets off and car dealer is jailed for 4 years despite having repaid the taxes

Suspended sentence for biting a child in the face

I'm starting to see a pattern here :rolleyes:

demanufactured

I was her dad or brother yer man wouldn't walk again

Atlantic Dawn

Previous work... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/18-months-jail-for-savage-gang-attack-on-chef-355622.html

Truley

Deleted User wrote: »

I "when did we start turning our sexual assault victims into prostitutes, since when was it ok to sexually assault women as long as you pay them afterwards"
.

Since Biblical times unfortunately

allibastor

the keen edge wrote: »

Many previous convictions, four for assault, then an sexual assault on a 17 year old.

I'm confused: can somebody please explain how this guy didn't get a jail sentence?

he didnt get a sentence cause it Ireland man, the land of fücking backwards rules where the crime does not ever seem to match the punishment. he will pay 15k over, which more than likely will come from a bank loan, all the while this 17 year old girl will never have a normal life again, with very damaged views on men.

what makes me laugh is your man has a bird, and is plannign on getting married. ah scumbags, they should be drowned at birth.

Sugar Free

Easy Rod wrote: »

This chap was the boogey man around where i grew up, didn't matter what you were doing, if you heard his name mentioned you just legged it home!

Ha! Yeah that's what I was getting at in my post, we were the same. Aside from the actual convinctions there are other disturbing stories I heard, though that's just hearsay I guess so will say no more.

Was always a scumbag and can add sex offender to the list now too.

Death and Taxes

Sugar Free wrote: »

Ha! Yeah that's what I was getting at in my post, we were the same. Aside from the actual convinctions there are other disturbing stories I heard, though that's just hearsay I guess so will say no more.

Was always a scumbag and can add sex offender to the list now too.

Thanks to his getting a suspended sentence he wont even have to register as a sex offender!

Lingua Franca

LittleBook wrote: »

Innocent Handbag Snatcher

Garlic Man

Mick Wallace gets off and car dealer is jailed for 4 years despite having repaid the taxes

Suspended sentence for biting a child in the face

I'm starting to see a pattern here :rolleyes:

This is outrageous. How on earth is he still a judge?

More pertinently, how do we complain and get him investigated?

STI V5

Ive heard it all now !! Unbelievable verdict but totally expected !! Having done work in a judges house years ago , let me see just how out of touch with reality they are !! Even though they hear all sorts off traumatic cases day to day for most of them its just a nice fat pay-packet and pension .. They havent a clue what goes on in the real world , there just in this comfy little bubble , one things for sure if it happened to someone close to him he would have a different outlook !! Hand on heart if any sicko ever crossed any of my family i would Chop the F##kers fingers off as a start , one things for sure he wouldnt be so quick about doing it again .. These vermin dont just turn over a new leaf and become excellent citizens they normally just carry on looking for a newer high ... which normally ends up with some poor woman or child going missing or being put through a life time of misery living with there ordeal !!! Im sure all the do-gooders will have something to say , Anybody with half a brain could see that the justice system in this country is a joke .... cant blame the gardai for losing interest and becoming complacent in some of these cases especially when the scum are walking free !!

K-9

Lingua Franca wrote: »

This is outrageous. How on earth is he still a judge?

More pertinently, how do we complain and get him investigated?

This judge also gave a suspended sentence recently for a guy who assaulted a couple of women. I know judges have to be independent from politicians with good reason but surely there is some way he can be held account for stuff like this? Independent panel of former judges and solicitors, something like that.

davet82

Lingua Franca wrote: »

More pertinently, how do we complain and get him investigated?

idk where to start, i hope somebody provides an email or postal address.

Has the media picked up on this guy and his soft sentencing?