What will it take to get you out on the street protesting?

1ZRed

alphabeat wrote: »

* opens fine wine and polishes monocle *

*brandy at the ready for swirling*

Super-Rush

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

its where the head of government is located and the obvious focal point of the march.

Little point marching on the county council in Mayo.

I'd sooner march to a ministers house than the Dail.

He/she's more likely to be at home than doing their actual job.

MadsL

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

What organisation would you respect enough to support their march?

This one. It's an excellent march. Clap along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHFf7NIwOHQ

Terry

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

There is a lot of talk about protesting against the austerity measures/increased tax and new stealth taxes/paying E62bn to foreign bondholders/mick wallace getting E42k expenses on top of a E92k salary/household and water charges/welfare tourism ect ect ect.

When Enda Kenny was on the cover of Time magazine (a well respected internationally distributed publication) he was asked why the Irish people were not protesting.

On a Saturday morning you see small badly organised protests that amount to little more than a minor traffic disruption.

There are a lot of people who read boards and this is an ideal place to organise a mass protest that would get the governments attention and make them realise that they can't keep pushing us closer to the edge with each subsequent budget.

We have to stop giving out about all the cuts and get off our asses and make our out of touch public representatives aware of how difficult they have made things for us by bowing to EU (German) pressure.

Are YOU willing to show up to a protest march in Dublin?

What organisation would you respect enough to support their march?

Besides a march what else would YOU be willing to do in order to make the government aware they have bled us dry and there is no more to give?

Everyone has to pitch in or it will be too easy to ignore the minority who do speak up.

Best of luck with that.

Bitterly yours,
Someone who tried this before and ended up being the subject of ridicule in a national newspaper. And FF were still in power at the time.

Eat more bacon. It tastes really good.

A Primal Nut

I'm not a recipient of social welfare and don't depend on the government for anything. Should I care about the cuts? pacman

The Irish Riddler

We can organise it for a weekday to get ye out of school for the day. Obviously not the place for a proper discussion.

RobbingBandit

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

Bet this guy is thinking of the Children, also bet it's very hot where he is.

Terry

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I'm not a recipient of social welfare and don't depend on the government for anything. Should I care about the cuts? pacman

Minimum PRSI should be 29%.
I'm not joking.

MadsL

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

We can organise it for a weekday to get ye out of school for the day. Obviously not the place for a proper discussion.

After Hours not place for sensible discussion revelation shocker!

Careful where you throw those toys, that one nearly hit me.

RobbingBandit

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I'm not a recipient of social welfare and don't depend on the government for anything. Should I care about the cuts? pacman

No but you should damn well care about the cuts to hospital services, transport, etc and the lack of cuts to funding for dead banks and wanker politicans.

Boombastic

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I'm not a recipient of social welfare and don't depend on the government for anything. Should I care about the cuts? pacman

Cuts are so bad for the smiley face family now, never mind not having a 'pot to p1ss in', these aren't even left with a colon:mad:

MadsL

OK - on a serious note. Can I ask did you march the night the debate and decision was made about the Bank Guarantee? I did. And I didn't see too many there. And it made fck all difference.

Now you want to march after all the bondholders have been paid and the banks bailed out and the country is screwed.

Well done, too late for me, done and outta here. Screw paying for apathy.

The Irish Riddler

I agree marching has a limited use but it gives people a way to vent and basically make the policians think of the consequences at the next general election.

Besides marching what can we do?

Am Chile

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

There is a lot of talk about protesting against the austerity measures/increased tax and new stealth taxes/paying E62bn to foreign bondholders/mick wallace getting E42k expenses on top of a E92k salary/household and water charges/welfare tourism ect ect ect.

When Enda Kenny was on the cover of Time magazine (a well respected internationally distributed publication) he was asked why the Irish people were not protesting.

On a Saturday morning you see small badly organised protests that amount to little more than a minor traffic disruption.

There are a lot of people who read boards and this is an ideal place to organise a mass protest that would get the governments attention and make them realise that they can't keep pushing us closer to the edge with each subsequent budget.

We have to stop giving out about all the cuts and get off our asses and make our out of touch public representatives aware of how difficult they have made things for us by bowing to EU (German) pressure.

Are YOU willing to show up to a protest march in Dublin?

What organisation would you respect enough to support their march?

Besides a march what else would YOU be willing to do in order to make the government aware they have bled us dry and there is no more to give?

Everyone has to pitch in or it will be too easy to ignore the minority who do speak up.

There is already a planned national anti austerity protest set for the 24 of November which Il be attending.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81108423&postcount=9424

The Irish Riddler

Am Chile wrote: »

There is already a planned national anti austerity protest set for the 24 of November which Il be attending.

http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81108423&postcount=9424

I wasnt aware of that. See you there.

Pride Fighter

I'd be up for this. Pints afterwards in Dr.Bollocko's house?

Am Chile

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

I agree marching has a limited use but it gives people a way to vent and basically make the policians think of the consequences at the next general election.

Besides marching what can we do?

All depends a route of a march and the numbers-my thoughts would be march down some of the busiest streets-march down o connel street,walk as slowly as possible, march over across the on connel bridge, march down the quay to the train station go around the other side and march back up blocking up the some of the busiest roads, march over the connel bridge again, march up to the dail then.

Boombastic

Am Chile wrote: »

All depends a route of a march and the numbers-my thoughts would be march down some of the busiest streets-march down o connel street,walk as slowly as possible, march over across the on connel bridge, march down the quay to the train station go around the other side and march back up blocking up the some of the busiest roads, march over the connel bridge again, march up to the dail then.

Orange is a power color. It is one of the healing colors. It is said to increase the craving for food. It also stimulates enthusiasm and creativity. Orange means vitality with endurance. People who like orange are usually thoughtful and sincere. Lady luck's color is orange.

We could wear orange for lady luck and to show we are thoughtful and sincere.We could bang drums so the politicians are sure to hear us.

phasers

the problem with protesting in this country is the ULA or some other group of troublemakers get involved and what starts out as a peaceful march for whatever cause ends up having it's message corrupted and a load of scummers looking to cause trouble.

MistyCheese

Marching's been done and it didn't work. We need something new!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3TS_UyGYAE

electrobanana

Where's this magical free cheese we were promised???

I for one demand answers....

Boombastic

electrobanana wrote: »

Where's this magical free cheese we were promised???

I for one demand answers....

I had some of that, I was pulling in 1Kg / week of cheese at one stage earlier in the year, lovely cheese it was too.

Serious question: did anyone else get it? Because if not it looks like I ate the country's supply:eek:

electrobanana

Boombastic wrote: »

I had some of that, I was pulling in 1Kg / week of cheese at one stage earlier in the year, lovely cheese it was too.

Serious question: did anyone else get it? Because if not it looks like I ate the country's supply:eek:

When you say pulling in 1kg a week..were you getting paid in cheese?

ArtSmart

Pride Fighter wrote: »

I'd be up for this. Pints afterwards in Dr.Bollocko's house?

Em, I might not make the march, but er, can I still go to the afters.?





ah, yes, protests. I believe international investment and tourism has increased in Greece since the protests began, bringing much needed cash into the country (or was that decreased )

(we done our protesting 18 months ago. through the ballot box. like grown ups)

Boombastic

electrobanana wrote: »

When you say pulling in 1kg a week..were you getting paid in cheese?

More like a bonus

ArtSmart

Boombastic wrote: »

Orange is a power color. It is one of the healing colors. It is said to increase the craving for food. It also stimulates enthusiasm and creativity. Orange means vitality with endurance. People who like orange are usually thoughtful and sincere. Lady luck's color is orange.

We could wear orange for lady luck and to show we are thoughtful and sincere.We could bang drums so the politicians are sure to hear us.

he he he.

parade down Dublin's main streets wearing orange....



now, where did i see that before..


lol

tomtherobot

Oh no not a march that'll have them quacking in their designer boots.

FFS the countries hopeless, miserable, we're being fucking screwed every which way. At the very least you need major civil disobediance and I for one would say there's a definate case to be made for more forceful action......

Nulty

MadsL wrote: »

OK - on a serious note. Can I ask did you march the night the debate and decision was made about the Bank Guarantee? I did. And I didn't see too many there. And it made fck all difference.

Now you want to march after all the bondholders have been paid and the banks bailed out and the country is screwed.

Well done, too late for me, done and outta here. Screw paying for apathy.

I marched when the household charge was brought in. There was thousands of people there and it made a difference. Hundreds of thousands of people haven't paid the charges still. Get sufficient numbers and it can make a difference. The head count at that march was under reported IMO, they said 4k people...there was more than that there.

tomtherobot

What kind of protest, armed or weak-ass hippy?

Where To

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

how about we stop paying bondholders and invest in jobs so that you can afford to buy all the cake you can eat? Seems like a better plan than sitting around waiting for someone to give you free cake.

I don't want to pay for the cake though. I want someone else to pay for it while I enjoy it's delicious cakeishness.

King Of Wishful Thinking

I don't care how much Pretty Woman glamorized it, there's nothing that would get me out on the street prostituting.

fasttalkerchat

Are we protesting for or against Boards?

Where To

If you get Buffalo Springfield and Lynyrd Skynyrd(the dead ones) to play then I will go along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3cbFJ3lYU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgs

Where To

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Are we protesting for or against Boards?

That depends entirely on their position on the Sponge.

ArmaniJeanss

The Irish Riddler wrote: »

There is a lot of talk about protesting against the austerity measures/increased tax and new stealth taxes/paying E62bn to foreign bondholders/mick wallace getting E42k expenses on top of a E92k salary/household and water charges/welfare tourism ect ect ect.

These things never work because some nut always starts bringing totally inconsequential stuff like a random backbench TDs payscale into it.

Pride Fighter

ArtSmart wrote: »

Em, I might not make the march, but er, can I still go to the afters.?

Sure, the After Hours mods are paying for everything

FanadMan

alphabeat wrote: »

* opens fine wine and polishes monocle *

* sits down beside Alphabeat with popcorn ready, breaks monocle and steals wine. Enjoys wine with popcorn *

















Sorry Alphabeat

dvpower

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Are we protesting for or against Boards?

That doesn't matter. Just organise a general "I'm unhappy" protest, then each constituent part can claim that everyone supports their position.

This is the boost Shell To Sea have been waiting on.

UCDVet

I don't know enough about politics or economics - but if you can convince me I should; I'd protest.

Here's the thing - what are we protesting?

The austerity measures? Aren't those measures that are taken BECAUSE WE'RE F***ING broke? What's the alternative to not paying. I can protest paying my banks late fees - but what's the alternative?

tayto lover

okfine wrote: »

Crazy to say it,but if anything is to come out of these last few years of whats been pure hell for the Irish economy..its that the Irish have continued to hold their heads high and have held onto their dignity.

No doubt about it this country really has something going for it its gained this country back such respect.

The African and South American banks are asking if Ireland would also take on their debt after the good job we did paying off Europe's. Do you think we should seeing that we have so much respect?

gobnaitolunacy

pmcmahon wrote: »

Student regestration fees increasing this year will cause a big uproar.Students don't have as many distractions as employed people,like pensioners they're the biggest group capable of large scale protest.

True but they aren't scared of students, they don't vote like the pensioners do.

ArtSmart

actually one thing that might be worth an aul March is against he shocking delay in prosecutions against Fingers and Co. and any one involved in the Anglo share 'support' scam. (course some you might have to break out of Cavan/ Monaghan, not easy)

Piliger

UCDVet wrote: »

I don't know enough about politics or economics - but if you can convince me I should; I'd protest.

Here's the thing - what are we protesting?

The austerity measures? Aren't those measures that are taken BECAUSE WE'RE F***ING broke? What's the alternative to not paying. I can protest paying my banks late fees - but what's the alternative?

Yep - these are the austerity measures caused by US spending grossly more than WE earned, voting only for politicians who promised to SPEND even MORE, marching in the streets demanding HIGHER spending, kicking the arse of any politician who said we should cut back, demanding that the banks lend us money we couldn't afford to pay back, to buy houses that were transparently over priced.

Now that the Germans and the EU have saved our asses, we have to suck up the fact that WE screwed ourselves up and WE have to take the consequences.

Chuck Stone

Super-Rush wrote: »

Why does the protest have to be in Dublin?

One of the dumbest questions I've yet read in AH.

How does that make you feel?

K-9

Merged with the "what will it take to get you out on the street protesting" thread from 2 days ago.

cosbloodymick

Piliger wrote: »

Yep - these are the austerity measures caused by US spending grossly more than WE earned, voting only for politicians who promised to SPEND even MORE, marching in the streets demanding HIGHER spending, kicking the arse of any politician who said we should cut back, demanding that the banks lend us money we couldn't afford to pay back, to buy houses that were transparently over priced.

Now that the Germans and the EU have saved our asses, we have to suck up the fact that WE screwed ourselves up and WE have to take the consequences.

You are misdiagnosing the cause of the problems we are now enduring.
The Austerity measures we are enduring were not caused by us spending more than we earned. Ireland ran budget surplusses throughout the Celtic Tiger era. Although I agree we are spending more than we earn now because of the property collapse and the global recession. I don't recall ANY politician saying that said we should spend less during the bubble, or can you name any?
The idea that the Germans and the EU are saving our asses is a load of crap. What is happening is that they are demanding of Irish taxpayers that we prop up insolvent private institutions which their banks lent to and they lend us the money to do so in order to protect the German/EU banks from any losses. We have a liability of 64 billion Euro to pump into the black hole of Irish banking. This transfer of losses from private investors to taxpayers is the greatest scam in capitalist history. I don't ever recall the same investors throwing around their financial gains to the ordinary taxpayer. Privatisation of profits and socialisation of losses and paddy the gobsh!te is sucking it up.
http://youtu.be/qtGTnpCE4do

Pottler

tomtherobot wrote: »

Oh no not a march that'll have them quacking in their designer boots.

FFS the countries hopeless, miserable, we're being fucking screwed every which way. At the very least you need major civil disobediance and I for one would say there's a definate case to be made for more forceful action......

Like a ducks parade?:D

BUBBLE WRAP

Chuck Stone wrote: »

One of the dumbest questions I've yet read in AH.

How does that make you feel?

Your obviously not here enough so!

Winston Payne

Mass popular protest without the leverage of violence is finished as a means of change in western democracies.

Why does everyone assume we're broke because of the banks? The banks could never have gone bust and we'd still be in the midst of incredible austerity because we need to borrow 20b+ per annum to keep the country running.


The banks? Back to the pub with ye.