Banshee (Cinemax) [** Spoilers **]

irishgeo

Had we had an episode in season 4 where hood hasn't got into a punch up. Getting rather boring that. They will hardly kill off 2 main characters in 2 weeks.

I have a funny feeling that proctor will miss his mothers death and lose the plot at the town.

duridian

irishgeo wrote: »

They will hardly kill off 2 main characters in 2 weeks.

I wouldn't class Nola as a main character TBH. She was more an auxiliary character to help storylines along when needed.

irishgeo wrote: »

I have a funny feeling that proctor will miss his mothers death and lose the plot at the town.

Yup, and it will add even more fuel to the fire of hatred between him and Hood, although I'm thinking Proctor and Hood may have to temporarily put that on hold, and team up to prevent Chayton and Red Bones killing them in the inevitable shootout of the opening scenes next week.
Siobhan is pretty much a goner I believe, but reformed neo-nazi boy is also present at the Cadi to lend them a hand and prove his credentials as her sub. (Remember he was talking to Alma in Sheriff's office shortly before the end of the episode.)

Sudden Valley

I will be slighted miffed if they kill Siobhan off, which seems likely now. She's one of the few women in the show that's now a complete cow. Haven't seen much of the army guys so I presume they will be the main antagonists for the remainder of the season.

Mc Love

Same, I hope they dont kill Siobhan off - still surprised the americans are able to say that without saying something stupid!

Hood is hardly going to get away with his punch up with Proctor, the thing i found interesting is where was his bodyguard during the fight and why didnt his niece intervene, she actually looked scared!

Mc Love

Just finished watching John Wick with Keanu Reeves, I have a feeling you guys will love it!

Lucas Hood

Hoods fighting skills have got a way worse over the course of this. He was able beat up a pro fighter and the albino in season 1 but can't beat up Kai now.

CastorTroy

So why is Chayton there? For his men? For revenge against Raven or because he heard Procter was there? Guess he gets 3 for 1.

What a coincidence the neo Nazi dude is there just in tome to prove his worth. Will he save Alma? Or just be hired and be disliked by Alma?

Yeah, looks like Siobhan will be going.

On another note, The game of Chicken was cool. At first I though Clay was scared, but then he smiled, which may have been even scarier.

Worse, I think that he was turned on

squonk

This was the first Banshee episode this season that I almost found boring. After the game of chicken it slowed right down until the final scene. Joe & Co breaking into the facility was fairly low key and while the showdown between Hood and Siobhan had to happen, I found I had little appetite or interest in serious interpersonal drama at that stage. There's really just a few things I want out of Banshee. It usually delivers! That being said, Siobhan's story needs to be wrapped up as she'll be taking up residence in the morgue really soon. It's a shame as she's been a great character all the way through. She hasn't really figured this season though except as a vehicle for exposing Hood. Once she's gone though he'lll be in the clear again. The fight with Kai was just a brutal slug out. Hood is a badass for sure but Kai is also a tough motherfúcker who didn't get where he was without being able to slug it out. Looks like we're back to business as usual next week though. I'm just wondering though when they plan on fitting in the heist at the army base. That must surely kick back in after the next episode?

Mr Freeze

Hood was in bits anyways after being brutally tortured less than 24 hours earlier, probably why he just wanted to shoot Proctor and avoid a fist fight. Not surprised he nearly got beaten in that fight.

I hope they surprise us and don't kill off Siobhan.

I didn't know where Chayton was going with this gang, I thought he was heading to Proctors house, and would kill a load of extras while Proctor was safe in Jail.

I thought it was a really good ep again, (except for the Carrie bike stuff), and it had to slow down after crazy last episode.

They've not dealt with Nola's death at all....

duridian

Mr Freeze wrote: »

They've not dealt with Nola's death at all....

I'm not sure anyone outside of Proctor's inner circle (Kai himself, Burton, maybe Rebecca) would even be aware of her death. She appeared to be on a one woman mission, separate from Chayton's attacks on Proctor.
I'd say the impression given is that poor aul Nola wound up being pulped up, and lobbed into the offal bin down the meat packing plant, much like Jason Hood. :eek:

Mr Freeze

^ I'm sure Proctor or Burton will throw it (not pulp, just the fact that they killed her) in Chayton's face at some point if they get a chance.

I have to say I am rooting for Chayton. I can't stand Proctor & co.
Burton is cool, but I'd look to see Chayton kill him.

Mc Love

Yep the inevitable happened, although I did think Siobhan would be saved. But as soon as she said she'll follow Hood on, I knew that was the end!

NinjaTruncs

Mc Love wrote: »

Yep the inevitable happened, although I did think Siobhan would be saved. But as soon as she said she'll follow Hood on, I knew that was the end!

What did you make of the bit after the credits? is it suggesting that someone else now has the file on Hood?

BArra

or its open to be found after her place gets searched by state police?

Tokyo

Well no half measures there..... one of the best hours of TV I have watched in a long time.

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

What did you make of the bit after the credits? is it suggesting that someone else now has the file on Hood?

Don't think so - they often do these poignant little stingers at the end of episodes that sum up everything that's happened. Think it't just a representation of the fact that Siobhan is gone, nothing more. Could be wrong though.

Agent Coulson

This season is on full trottle I can't see many surviving till the end.

titan18

Well, that sucked. I liked Siobhan, knew she'd die but the manner wasn't very nice.

Sudden Valley

Banshee isn't usually predictable but they really made it obvious she was going to die. I'm guessing they are going with Hood and Carrie getting back together. Not really interested in that.

Unearthly

I'm happy Chayton is still alive. I thought they were going to end the Indian arc which would have been a pitty.

duridian

I don't think Geno Segers is gonna be acting in season 4, not a hope Chayton is gonna be alive then I'd say. Last week it was a case of let Proctor and Chayton kill each other, but now Hood probably wants Chayton dead more than anyone.

Mc Love

Wish Carrie would die - her storylines are pointless and boring, even her husband has better storylines now

Mr Freeze

Another really good episode.

Found it quite tense, as every moment Siobhan was on screen I was thinking she's dead now.

I felt the writers were toying with us as it was inevitable that they were going to kill her off and nearly every scene she was in I was expecting a barrage of bullets, especially when Hood told her his real name.

Chayton wont be seeing S4 (if there is one), but I hope he gets to take out Burton before Hood gets to him.

And still the military base heist in the background...

squonk

Quite a sad episode I thought. I mean sad as in the traditional meaning of the word. For me it was Banshee does Assault on Precinct 13. I knew Siobhan's number was up but then when Billy decided to talk directly with Chayton and the inevitable happened I pretty much figured she'd limp on. I figured the purpose was to kill off a guy to make way for the Neo Nazi cop. Even with her conversations with Hood during he episode I figured that they were going to reach an understanding and move on. I kind of expected Chayton to stop on the brink and just knock her out but it really just seemed very sad a needless how she died. I was actually quite surprised. I do think I missed some details as I usually save the show for last and I was fairly braindead by that stage last night.

Now there's room for Neo Nazi cop and A.N. Other on the Banshee polic force. I wonder if Indian Reservation Cop lady will end up working with Hood in time?

I think the show kind of crossed a line this week. Normally there are slower cutaways from violence but this episode was intense and long running. Probably it was as close to the notional 45 minute fight episode I often joke that the writers have to have in them somewhere. It was pretty much dark, nasty and cruel.

Now coming up we've got Proctor v. Hood, Hood v. Chayton, possibly Proctor v. Chayton (again) and an army base to be ripped off. The writers are just going all in this season!

RIP Siobhan. I liked how the American writers were able to spell your name correctly and the actors did not butcher it.

Zero-Cool

I thought I became insensitive to neck breaks after the few hundred in 24 but that was just class.

Mr Freeze

sheehy83 wrote: »

I thought I became insensitive to neck breaks after the few hundred in 24 but that was just class.

I thought it was brutal.

I hoping he wouldn't do it, it was senseless and just done to antagonise Hood and the police even more.

TwoShedsJackson

Insanely good episode in easily the best season so far.

Mr Freeze

Mr Freeze wrote: »

I thought it was brutal.

I hoping he wouldn't do it, it was senseless and just done to antagonise Hood and the police even more.

He promised Hood that he would make him suffer

Mr Freeze

Deleted User wrote: »

He promised Hood that he would make him suffer

And that he did.

I thought he was a likeable villain up until this point.

Rasmus

I am still traumatised by the way she died. Why couldn't she just be killed in crossfire or by arrow? It was horrific, and to think I thought the episode a couple of weeks ago was too brutal.

squonk

I thought lunch would sort me out but I'm still traumatised as well. Now I've had time to think about it I can't help but feel they broke a kind of unwritten long-standing TV viewer contract. I mean we kind of know what to expect from TV shows. Someone get caugt in crossfire, or gets blown away confronting a bad guy or else they go out giving hell in a grudge match. Otherwise you kind of expect writers and producers to make all kinds of shapes and be really badass with situations right up until the point where something trully awful has to be done. Then either the cavalry shows up or somebody finds a gun or some other means of diffusing the situation and redirecting the drama and they never really reach the point of having a brutal killing.

In this case they made all the appropriate noises and made all the right moves to get the situation right up to the top of the cliff and then jumped off it when you really didn't expect them to.

I love how they've upped the ante this year with the action sequences but if they also keep upping the shock factory with deaths like Siobhan's and even taking it futher then I might have to reconsider the show. I never expected to be writing something like this on the TV forum, especially about Banshee but Siobhan's death has to be one of the nastiest things I've ever seen on a TV show.

I don't get the angst to be honest.
Hate that she died but it is completely within the keeping of the tone of the show.

Look how they did away with Emmet, after clip that had people rushing back to the last episode of last season to find out what the hell happened and it was just as brutal.
Emmet's wife getting a kick in the stomach, enough to kill the unborn child was FAR FAR more brutal

Mr Freeze

It was brutal. But its certainly not a reason to stop watching the show in my opinion.

Chayton is a monster (we are left in no doubt now). We know now exactly what he is capable of and he doesn't care how many of the "White Man" he has to kill to get his revenge.

duridian

TBH I would have liked if they had worked it so that Proctor returned (or even sent Burton) to the Cadi after calling the cavalry and pumped some (non-fatal) lead into Chayton just as he was about to kill Siobhan. That could have led to some seriously complex IOU's and moral dilemmas between some of the key characters.

But I guess with Leah on her deathbed that was never likely to happen.

the_monkey

Are you talking about episode 5 ?

has it been aired ?

Gran Hermano

the_monkey wrote: »

Are you talking about episode 5 ?

has it been aired ?

https://trakt.tv/search/tvdb/4874873

Aired 7/2.

Tokyo

Season 3, Episode 5 - aired last Friday night (early Sat morning GMT).

CastorTroy

Yeah that was excellent. Always like a good siege episode/movie. Guessed she would be going but doesn't mean I have to like it

Guessing Chayton will be very dead very soon. Can't see Hood focusing too much on the robbery until this is resolved

Was thinking who they would replace Siobhan with if they need a female deputy. At first I thought Carrie, but then remembered the reservation cop.

Speaking of, how does she know the DA?

JaseBelleVie

Brilliant episode. Really had echoes of Assault On Precinct 13 to it, and other siege movies. Loved it.

This season is just so eminently watchable. It has just been non-stop since the word "go" and I'm loving it for that. Just when you think everything is going to work out or that you have half a handle on things, BLAM. Out of left-field comes another twist in the tail.

By the way, I'm going to hypothesize on what I think will happen at the end of the season, but I'm going to spoiler it. Don't say you have not been warned, and in the words of Furio Giunta, "Don't bitch-a to me-a" if you so choose to read it.

I reckon that Hood will, once again, team up with Proctor in order to eliminate the bigger threat of the Native American gang. The uneasy alliance will see Proctor, Hood and various others taking the fight to the Red Bones, who we must remember lost a lot of men during the siege of the Police Station.

The resultant fall-out from the battle will leave the Red Bones decimated, Chayton dead and another truce called between Hood and Proctor, despite all that has gone before (Proctor and/or Hood possibly saving the others' life at some point during the proceedings).

This will all be wrapped up neat and tidy by the end of the 8th episode or so. Leaving the path clear for the robbery of the Marine base. It will be during this robbery that Job/Sugar/Carrie is killed, but the robbery is a success. But the body left behind will be a clue to the identity of the other robbers and will result in a cliffhanger as the Marines and the Private Military Contractors suit up and arm up to go after the robbers. The final scene possibly including the infamous cliché of a gun being cocked before cutting to black.

Rasmus

JaseBelleVie wrote: »

Brilliant episode. Really had echoes of Assault On Precinct 13 to it, and other siege movies. Loved it.

This season is just so eminently watchable. It has just been non-stop since the word "go" and I'm loving it for that. Just when you think everything is going to work out or that you have half a handle on things, BLAM. Out of left-field comes another twist in the tail.

By the way, I'm going to hypothesize on what I think will happen at the end of the season, but I'm going to spoiler it. Don't say you have not been warned, and in the words of Furio Giunta, "Don't bitch-a to me-a" if you so choose to read it.

I reckon that Hood will, once again, team up with Proctor in order to eliminate the bigger threat of the Native American gang. The uneasy alliance will see Proctor, Hood and various others taking the fight to the Red Bones, who we must remember lost a lot of men during the siege of the Police Station.

The resultant fall-out from the battle will leave the Red Bones decimated, Chayton dead and another truce called between Hood and Proctor, despite all that has gone before (Proctor and/or Hood possibly saving the others' life at some point during the proceedings).

This will all be wrapped up neat and tidy by the end of the 8th episode or so. Leaving the path clear for the robbery of the Marine base. It will be during this robbery that Job/Sugar/Carrie is killed, but the robbery is a success. But the body left behind will be a clue to the identity of the other robbers and will result in a cliffhanger as the Marines and the Private Military Contractors suit up and arm up to go after the robbers. The final scene possibly including the infamous cliché of a gun being cocked before cutting to black.

Sounds good, they sound take you at that production company. Can you rewrite last week's episode too so we can keep Siobhan?

JaseBelleVie

Rasmus wrote: »

Sounds good, they sound take you at that production company. Can you rewrite last week's episode too so we can keep Siobhan?

Or being sarcastic

Rasmus

Yeah I guess it did sound like that but no, I wasn't!! I would be happy if all that happened in the next few episodes. If I even watch them, after last week's happenings.

the_monkey

Just saw it ... wow what an episode, really setting things up for the rest of the season ...

Agent Coulson

Renewed for an 8 episode 4th season.

red dave

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Renewed for an 8 episode 4th season.

Apologies if mentioned already, but how many episodes in this current season?

Agent Coulson

red dave wrote: »

Apologies if mentioned already, but how many episodes in this current season?

10 episodes this season.

TwoShedsJackson

10 episodes every season so far, a 4th season is great news but I wouldn't be surprised to hear it's the last, they'll probably wrap it up and that's fair enough, you can only go to the well so many times.

squonk

If they are wrapping next season then I'd have no problem with that. I'd rather see a great show go out on a high while it's still fresh. It's always going to be sad to see such a great show go but if they can maintain the quality next season then it'll be remembered as a great overall package.

feelgoodinc27

Feels too soon to be ending, hope they make it to 5 seasons at least to properly deal with Kai/Rebecca and the mystery of who exactly Hood is.