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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 3] *Poll Reset*

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    #3482
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    markbld65 wrote: »
    its 043,

    point i was making was i cant tax my vehicles in Longford but as far as longford CC are concerned they want me to pay them HHC, and roscommon CC also want me to pay them HHC :D

    Sure, why don't you pay it in the both counties. The government needs all the help it can get, in trying to pay the bondholders. I'm sure they'll thank you for your help.:D


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    #3483
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    darkhorse wrote: »
    Who is hiding where exactly, dv?
    Everyone evading their tax is hiding away.


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    #3484
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    dvpower wrote: »
    Everyone evading their tax is hiding away.

    not really, anyone that knows me knows im not going to pay this tax. that includes people i know who have paid, if they are upset they can pick up thier phone and inform the council.


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    #3485
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    not really, anyone that knows me knows im not going to pay this tax. that includes people i know who have paid, if they are upset they can pick up thier phone and inform the council.
    Well hopefully they will.
    In the meantime you continue to hide away from the authorities, in the hope that they don't catch you. Otherwise you would have taken a principled stand.


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    #3486
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dvpower wrote: »
    Everyone evading their tax is hiding away.


    The only person I see evading anything these days is Enda, which are questions from the opposition.

    When asked a serious, indefensible question from SF, he'll answer with "Jean McConville, Northern bank, IRA, " blah blah blah.

    If its FF asking them, its "we inherited your mess, what did you do in govt, rabble rabble rabble"

    Shouldn't be surprised at this stage though. Its gotten to the stage now that he only really shows up for awards ceremonies and opportunistic photo shoots.


    The mans an incompetent embarrassment. Telling us in one breath that the recession wasn't our fault, and in the next telling the nazis that we 'went mad and partied too hard'

    He must've thought what he said in Germany, stayed in Germany. Wanker.


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    #3487
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Ghandee wrote: »
    The only person I see evading anything these days is Enda, which are questions from the opposition.
    Then you need to take your blinkers off.
    Ghandee wrote: »
    Telling us in one breath that the recession wasn't our fault, and in the next telling the nazis that we 'went mad and partied too hard'
    I thought we were done with the whole Nazi thing. Tiresome and idiotic.


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    #3488
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dvpower wrote: »
    Then you need to take your blinkers off.

    As darkhorse rightly pointed out, the folk who support this tax, and who tell us they fully believe the cash collected will be for local services are the ones with blinkers on.

    The fact that public service increments in 2013 will cost the state 10 times what they'll save from cutting respite allowances speaks volumes IMO.



    dvpower wrote: »
    I thought we were done with the whole Nazi thing. Tiresome and idiotic.

    See above.


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    #3489
    Buford Tannen
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Buford Tannen


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    I'll say one thing for Stephen Donnelly, he's a fast learner. Only two years in the Dail and, with the amount of populist bluster he's been spouting recently, he sounds like a 20 year veteran.

    Still, you can't blame him. As an Independent, he's never going to be sitting in cabinet and will never have to put his money where his mouth his, so he's got nothing to lose.

    What I do find intriguing is that, after more than a decade of voting for parties that subscribed to the fairytale book of economics, people are getting so excited by next fella to come along promising he can solve all our problems with a few strokes.

    Another one living in fear.Govenments love people like you,makes their job of obtaining more money from you easier.


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    #3490
    Buford Tannen
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Buford Tannen


    dvpower wrote: »
    Everyone evading their tax is hiding away.

    Yeah we are all shacked up with Peter Darragh Quinn across the border.


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    #3491
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Buford Tannen wrote: »
    Yeah we are all shacked up with Peter Darragh Quinn across the border.
    That's a pretty daft comparison tbh.


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    #3492
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    dvpower wrote: »
    Well hopefully they will.
    In the meantime you continue to hide away from the authorities, in the hope that they don't catch you. Otherwise you would have taken a principled stand.

    they wont, cause it take a special kind of person to inform on your neighbour.
    A neighbour who's door is open to you 24/7, who you can walk into his shed and borrow what you want without asking. the guy who will drop you some turf when the government is cutting your fuel allowance, the guy who will give you a few hours break, when the government are cutting your respite grant.

    So go blow your trumpet for Phil Hogan and his tax, see what happens when you tell him you are too broke to pay it;)


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    #3493
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    they wont, cause it take a special kind of person to inform on your neighbour.
    This is the kind of colonial era, backward attitude that has the country in a mess.
    bgrizzley wrote: »
    So go blow your trumpet for Phil Hogan and his tax, see what happens when you tell him you are too broke to pay it;)
    I'm not too broke.:confused:


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    #3494
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dvpower wrote: »
    This is the kind of colonial era, backward attitude that has the country in a mess.
    Yes get onto the phone there and report a few others, while "hiding away" behind your curtains.
    I'm not too broke.
    If you were, would you be as supportive of the property tax then?


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    #3495
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    dvpower wrote: »
    This is the kind of colonial era, backward attitude that has the country in a mess.

    Not when the government is no longer for the people. plus its a bit of a cheek implying that about me, when you are beating the drum for the last 6 months for a party of parish pump gombeenmen who are still fighting a hundred year old civil war


    (btw lol @ colonial era, sure arent we only a colony of germany now)
    dvpower wrote: »

    I'm not too broke.:confused:

    give it time, they have another 2 years to go...


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    #3496
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    give it time, they have another 2 years to go...

    I have a feeling he wont have much problem. People who wont be affected by the financial difficulties that many are in, dont give a bollox about anyone else`s difficulty. These government ministers are the perfect example. The sole reason they are there, is self interest, pocket lining.


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    #3497
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Yes get onto the phone there and report a few others, while "hiding away" behind your curtains.
    As I said, its the people who are trying to avoid paying it that are hiding away, vainly hoping that the Revenue don't catch up to them.
    I expect that when this tax is bedded down, increasingly people won't put up with having to carry the load for their thieving neighbours. Outside of small numbers of retrogrades, there isn't much tolerance for tax evasion in this country. I expect the property tax will be the same.
    robbie7730 wrote: »
    If you were, would you be as supportive of the property tax then?
    I might even be more supportive of it, it being a wealth tax.
    bgrizzley wrote: »
    Not when the government is no longer for the people.
    They have a massive majority and the opinion polls confirm the majority. Saying that the government is no longer for the people is really just whinging because your chosen lot don't have enough support, isn't it?
    bgrizzley wrote: »
    (btw lol @ colonial era, sure arent we only a colony of germany now)
    "Don't inform on your neighbours". "We're being ruled by outsiders".

    Yep. It looks like some of you do still have a colonial mindset.


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    #3498
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    I have a feeling he wont have much problem.
    :)
    robbie7730 wrote: »
    People who wont be affected by the financial difficulties that many are in, dont give a bollox about anyone else`s difficulty. These government ministers are the perfect example. The sole reason they are there, is self interest, pocket lining.
    Stop complaining and pay your damn taxes!


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    #3499
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dvpower wrote: »
    :)
    Stop complaining and pay your damn taxes!

    I hate automated responses


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    #3500
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dvpower wrote: »

    I might even be more supportive of it, it being a wealth tax.

    Total BS, but I know you know that already.


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    #3501
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    dvpower wrote: »
    They have a massive majority and the opinion polls confirm the majority. Saying that the government is no longer for the people is really just whinging because your chosen lot don't have enough support, isn't it?


    i dont have a chosen lot, they are all cúnts. Anyway, isnt democracy where two fools can outvote a genius? :D


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    #3502
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    dvpower wrote: »
    As I said, its the people who are trying to avoid paying it that are hiding away, vainly hoping that the Revenue don't catch up to them.
    I expect that when this tax is bedded down, increasingly people won't put up with having to carry the load for their thieving neighbours. Outside of small numbers of retrogrades, there isn't much tolerance for tax evasion in this country. I expect the property tax will be the same.
    .


    Oh the innocence!
    If i had a euro for everytime someone asked me for a price for cash i could retire.
    If i had one for everytime i've been undercut by someone working for cash i could do the same.
    If you had any idea how many cars are driving around the country without tax you wouldnt be harping on about us not paying the HHC
    If you had any idea of the size of the black market in cigarettes and laundered diesel you definitely wouldnt be making that comment.


    Tax evasion, you say? this country was built on it, ask Michael Lowry. ask FG Councillor Percy Clendennen.
    sure, didnt the FG party themselves have to settle with the revenue.

    lol, that tolerance obviously starts at the top:pac:


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    #3503
    Le_Dieux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Le_Dieux


    Buford Tannen wrote: »
    Yeah we are all shacked up with Peter Darragh Quinn across the border.

    You know the best thing I discovered about Boards recently is the 'ignore' button. Man it spares me grief.

    If hiding away is so worrisome for some, why are they hiding behind a pseudonym themselves?


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    #3504
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    What I do find intriguing is that people are getting so excited by next fella to come along promising he can solve all our problems with a few strokes.

    Would this be the next fella that yer talking about:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qE_-Fp7lGSk

    But at the same time he has promised:

    Not to raise the existing tax rates
    Not to introduce a property tax on residential homes
    Not to cut social welfare from €196
    Not to cut child benefit


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    #3505
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    dvpower wrote: »
    This is the kind of colonial era, backward attitude that has the country in a mess.


    Lol........

    Penny hasn't dropped yet........
    The Revenue Commissioners will have the power to come in and inspect a home to assess its value for the property tax.

    Property tax dodgers also face fines of €3,000 for deliberately failing to fill in forms properly or undervaluing their house, under tough new legislation.

    The legislation to back up the new property tax, the Local Property Tax Bill, 2012 was published yesterday. The bill says the Revenue will have the power to "enter on land and inspect the relevant residential property" to assess its value.

    Reminiscent of the penal laws so.....
    The British government, under pressure from English reformers to relieve the situation, enacted the Poor Law Act of 1838, modeled on the English workhouse system. Under this relief plan, Ireland was divided into 130 separate administrative areas, called unions, since they united several church parishes together. Each union had its own workhouse and a local Board of Guardians elected by taxpaying landowners and farmers. The chairman of the Board was usually the biggest proprietor or landlord in the area. Each Board was responsible for setting local tax rates and for collecting the funds necessary to maintain the workhouse. Inside each workhouse lived a resident Master and Matron, who were also supervised by the Board. The entire system was supervised by a Poor Law Commissioner stationed in Dublin.



    http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/famine/before.htm


    FG/Germany, our new masters. :rolleyes:


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    #3506
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Government promised not raise income tax as that has a detremental impact on jobs...unlike PRSI, increases in motor tax. LOL who are these shysters trying to kid. People were forced into communter towns as a result of FFails property bubble. It is not like we have a wonderful public transport system.

    You have to laugh at the trolls who say we can always elect someone else in the next elections. Dont they release they are all useless and that we dont live in a democracy. We live in a banana republic not runby elected officials but by permanent civil sernants.


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    #3507
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Le_Dieux wrote: »
    If hiding away is so worrisome for some, why are they hiding behind a pseudonym themselves?
    We'll La Dieux, if that is your real name...


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    #3508
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    If i had a euro for everytime someone asked me for a price for cash i could retire.
    Maybe they know youre in the habit of not paying your taxes.


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    #3509
    Le_Dieux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Le_Dieux


    darkhorse wrote: »
    Would this be the next fella that yer talking about:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qE_-Fp7lGSk

    But at the same time he has promised:

    Not to raise the existing tax rates
    Not to introduce a property tax on residential homes
    Not to cut social welfare from €196
    Not to cut child benefit

    What a LIAR You are Gilmore...a damn bloody LIAR!!!!


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    #3510
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    dvpower wrote: »
    Maybe they know youre in the habit of not paying your taxes.


    A scurrilous remark about someone you dont know. You most definitely dont know my habits.

    Badly done sir!


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    #3511
    Hijpo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Government promised not raise income tax as that has a detremental impact on jobs...unlike PRSI, increases in motor tax. LOL who are these shysters trying to kid. People were forced into communter towns as a result of FFails property bubble. It is not like we have a wonderful public transport system.

    You have to laugh at the trolls who say we can always elect someone else in the next elections. Dont they release they are all useless and that we dont live in a democracy. We live in a banana republic not runby elected officials but by permanent civil sernants.

    Thats representative democracy for you, how about direct democracy?


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