Sheffield Wednesday's Chris Kirkland attacked by fan

CSF

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

What difference does it make whether this lad is from Leeds or not

Didn't even realise the lad wasn't from Leeds. I was referring to the lads on here who were giving the 'Im a Leeds fan, am I a scumbag?' argument? Where is the lad from?

Paul Tergat

Deank wrote: »

No need to explain thanks, Leeds fans have history of this sort of abuse, chants about Hillsborough,Munich etc

no, id like to know what you meant by point proved when replying to my post

event

Ah lads, why are ye even responding to deank?
Ignore him and he'll get bored

Guy:Incognito

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Sounds like yer man is a right creepy cawley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3rbDClDgCQ

ohyesthefinest

CSF wrote: »

Didn't even realise the lad wasn't from Leeds. I was referring to the lads on here who were giving the 'Im a Leeds fan, am I a scumbag?' argument? Where is the lad from?

Judging from his Facebook, hes from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeston,_Leeds but living in Cheltenham but its not really relevant.

On a lighter note
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1212730&l=f0a5f75a07&id=190050664377660

Equium

MyBrokenKnees wrote: »

Crazy :eek:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtSHMvpkuqk

Looks like James Milner. Why would he do such a thing?

Fishooks12

The most troubling thing about this is the reaction of Warnock saying Kirkland went down easy

I'd love to see him stay on his feet after an unprovoked blindsided attack

It was open-fisted but there was real force behind it, not some tame slap

Coupled with the unexpected nature of it, I don't think there's many that would stay on there feet in such a situation

CSF

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Judging from his Facebook, hes from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeston,_Leeds but living in Cheltenham but its not really relevant.

On a lighter note
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1212730&l=f0a5f75a07&id=190050664377660

Grand so, he is from Leeds, and it is of course relevant.

SarahBM

I have been going to Leeds for about 10 or 11 years now, as part of a group of fans, and by myself. I have never seen trouble, home or away, and all of the Leeds fans I have ever met have been the friendliest most welcoming bunch of people I have ever met.
The sweeping generalisation that all Leeds supporters in the UK are like that individual who attacked Kirkland is nonsenses.
99.9% of Leeds fans are fantastic, and if you havent been to a game at Elland road then I dont think you can possibly make sweeping statements and comments about their fans.

Now, I do not for one second condone the chanting at Dave Jones etc, but in fairness the Wednesday fans really let them selves and football down by singing about Turkey. A very upset supporter who was at the game with her 13 year old son rang into Yorkshire Radio after the match to say how horrible the chanting from the Wednesday fans was, and how that was the flash point, when the atmosphere turned from good banter between two groups of supporters, into a pitch invasion and an assault.

I hope that so-called fan gets arrested and prosecuted.

Nothing was done when the Milwall supporters waved turkey flags at Leeds fans at the New Den, and nothing will be done to Wednesday for making stabbing gestures to the Leeds fans.

I am a Leeds United supporter - not a hooligan. Please do not brand me as such.

delad

Fishooks12 wrote: »

The most troubling thing about this is the reaction of Warnock saying Kirkland went down easy

I'd love to see him stay on his feet after an unprovoked blindsided attack

It was open-fisted but there was real force behind it, not some tame slap

Coupled with the unexpected nature of it, I don't think there's many that would stay on there feet in such a situation

yeah but in fairness first time I watched it I thought he went down very easy, its not till you see the reply that you see how much force there was in it

Deank

Paul Tergat wrote: »

no, id like to know what you meant by point proved when replying to my post

I've no interest in getting into a pointless argument with you re my earlier post, I was merely making a point that off all of my interactions with football supporters the ones with Leeds fans were the most aggressive and blinkered, Liverpool fans aren't even that bad

Paul Tergat

Deank wrote: »

I've no interest in getting into a pointless argument with you re my earlier post, I was merely making a point that off all of my interactions with football supporters the ones with Leeds fans were the most aggressive and blinkered, Liverpool fans aren't even that bad

but your reply to me was point proved? you dont say something like that and then say you dont want to get into a pointless argument. you realise im not a leeds fan? if you are going to make a statement like that have the stones to say what you really mean

The_Kew_Tour

delad wrote: »

yeah but in fairness first time I watched it I thought he went down very easy, its not till you see the reply that you see how much force there was in it

Have to say in seeing replay, it looks much worse.

Thought he went down easy, but not so much now. Looks worse no doubt.

Hope that stupid fool never gets to be let near football stadium again. these restrictions in banning hooliganism has to be addressed also.

davyjose

Keith C wrote: »

Aaron Cawley is his name. all over twitter including links to his facebook page.

Send him to prison, in Sheffield.

SarahBM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Have to say in seeing replay, it looks much worse.

Thought he went down easy, but not so much now. Looks worse no doubt.

Hope that stupid fool never gets to be let near football stadium again. these restrictions in banning hooliganism has to be addressed also.

Warnock should not have said Kirkland went down easy, but also, Jones should not have branded all Leeds fans as animals and say that they should be banned from every away ground. Heat of the moment, from both managers.
As for banning the hooligan, from what people have been saying he has been banned for life already, so how did he get his hand on a ticket.

Melion

Why are people giving out about Warnock and what he said? It was one sentence during his interview were he was absolutely seething about the idiot who ran on to the pitch.

I feel really bad for Dave Jones, the Leeds chanting must have been very bad for him to react like he did in the post-match interview.

Deank

Paul Tergat wrote: »

but your reply to me was point proved? you dont say something like that and then say you dont want to get into a pointless argument. you realise im not a leeds fan? if you are going to make a statement like that have the stones to say what you really mean

No stone throwing intended, honestly I thought you were a Leeds fan and never checked to who I replying too, my bad.

delad

SarahBM wrote: »

so how did he get his hand on a ticket.

very easily I'd say, theres no way of stopping him from getting tickets and going to matches so these lifelong bans are a bit pointless

dreamers75

Spoke to a player who (also a goalie) who was attacked on a pitch and he had a rather interesting tale.

He said "i wasnt aware of the guy until he was 4 feet in me i was watching the ball and concentrating on that and that alone" Most people who saw this incident felt he should have seen the fan considering the distance he made before he made contact with him.

i dunno tho players are (hopefully ) fully focused on the game and nothing but the game they actually wouldnt notice someone unless the game was stopped.

The player above said he was shocked at 1st but then laid into the lad, looking at Kirkland i think he does the same....he is shocked by and 1st reaction is to go down. Think players are so involved in the game they actually dont know WTF is going on when this **** happens.


Cracking stadium ban system they have in UK btw.

Ares

'They are vile animals.'

Dave Jones on Leeds fans.

mike65

I'm assuming Luis Suarez is somehow to blame for all this.....

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

I'm assuming Luis Suarez is somehow to blame for all this.....

Not funny and even just within this thread not original.

The_Kew_Tour

mike65 wrote: »

I'm assuming Luis Suarez is somehow to blame for all this.....

stick to day job

Melion

Ares wrote: »

'They are vile animals.'

Dave Jones on Leeds fans.

The stuff they were chanting about him,id be inclined to agree

CSF

mike65 wrote: »

I'm assuming Luis Suarez is somehow to blame for all this.....

Not the Serbs, no?

CSF

CSF wrote: »

So we aren't allowed have a go at clubs for having lots of scumbag fans now? Weird. And I'm not having a go at Leeds specifically here because I don't know much about them.

But you can't use lads from nowhere near Leeds as representative of the Leeds fans.

Hear hear. I attend a lot of Tipperary games and unfortunately in modern society we have absolute losers turning up on the day drunk and spouting bile during a minutes silence. These idiots are nowhere to be seen during the challenges or the league games but turn up in abundance for the actual championship games. As a true Tipperary supporter id hate to be branded with them.
The guy who ran onto the field tonight is just a yob but Leeds have a core of good supporters like any other club. Just unfortunate this 'creature' has brought them into disrepute

delad

Why don't Irish teams have firms? Looking at that video with all those lads coming on to the pitch after the goal, jumping around and goading the oppositions fans and players, it looks fun. Then your man who hit the keeper got a heroes welcome when he ran back into the crowd.

In all fairness it looks like a bit of craic. I'd say it be a great laugh getting largered up on a saturday afternoon and travelling with the lads to away games, getting up to all sorts of mischief. It would be nice to belong to something, ya know?

Mushy

delad wrote: »

Why don't Irish teams have firms? Looking at that video with all those lads coming on to the pitch after the goal, jumping around and goading the oppositions fans and players, it looks fun. Then your man who hit the keeper got a heroes welcome when he ran back into the crowd.

In all fairness it looks like a bit of craic. I'd say it be a great laugh getting largered up on a saturday afternoon and travelling with the lads to away games, getting up to all sorts of mischief. It would be nice to belong to something, ya know?

You can do that without being a scumbag about it.

CSF

delad wrote: »

Why don't Irish teams have firms? Looking at that video with all those lads coming on to the pitch after the goal, jumping around and goading the oppositions fans and players, it looks fun. Then your man who hit the keeper got a heroes welcome when he ran back into the crowd.

In all fairness it looks like a bit of craic. I'd say it be a great laugh getting largered up on a saturday afternoon and travelling with the lads to away games, getting up to all sorts of mischief. It would be nice to belong to something, ya know?

Oh my lord. How little you know.

DrumSteve

delad wrote: »

Why don't Irish teams have firms? Looking at that video with all those lads coming on to the pitch after the goal, jumping around and goading the oppositions fans and players, it looks fun. Then your man who hit the keeper got a heroes welcome when he ran back into the crowd.

In all fairness it looks like a bit of craic. I'd say it be a great laugh getting largered up on a saturday afternoon and travelling with the lads to away games, getting up to all sorts of mischief. It would be nice to belong to something, ya know?

Im not sure if the appropriate response to this is allowable within the charter.

SantryRed

The game should have been abandoned. Disgraceful scenes.

delad

DrumSteve wrote: »

Im not sure if the appropriate response to this is allowable within the charter.

pm me then

Fishooks12

delad wrote: »

Why don't Irish teams have firms? Looking at that video with all those lads coming on to the pitch after the goal, jumping around and goading the oppositions fans and players, it looks fun. Then your man who hit the keeper got a heroes welcome when he ran back into the crowd.

In all fairness it looks like a bit of craic. I'd say it be a great laugh getting largered up on a saturday afternoon and travelling with the lads to away games, getting up to all sorts of mischief. It would be nice to belong to something, ya know?

Maybe if you're a brain dead idiot

Corholio

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Somehow I expect Suarez will get the blame for this.

Don't get this when its churned out.

When has Suarez been blamed for something he had nothing to do with?

Vincent Vega

http://www.facebook.com/Leedsvbates/posts/4383794028914

Keith C

Deank wrote: »

I've no interest in getting into a pointless argument with you re my earlier post, I was merely making a point that off all of my interactions with football supporters the ones with Leeds fans were the most aggressive and blinkered, Liverpool fans aren't even that bad

So you've met all 50 irish leeds fans or did you have a word with a UK leeds fan?
What were your discussions with Leeds fans about? Keanes tackle on Haangland?

super_furry

That kind of chanting is vile and those chanting it are animals. Its not just Leeds either, United are as bad about Wenger, but these issues are always ignored. Fair play to Jones for making a huge point of it.

DrumSteve

delad wrote: »

pm me then

I dont need to but thanks for the PM.

Irish teams do have firms. Do a google search, you can find all the info you want on there.

The type of thing you are trying to advocate is just foolish. There is no place in football for it.

And I hope that chap who attacked kirkland gets made an example of.

Paul Tergat

super_furry wrote: »

That kind of chanting is vile and those chanting it are animals. Its not just Leeds either, United are as bad about Wenger, but these issues are always ignored. Fair play to Jones for making a huge point of it.

Wow, using this to get a dig in at United. Unreal how people find these opportunities.

super_furry

I'm not using anything to have a dig at United, I'm saying chants that accuse people of being paedophiles, like those Leeds were aiming at Jones are sick and anyone chanting should be banned for life.

Keith C

CLUBS WITH MOST ARRESTS
•Manchester United - 276
•Leeds - 149
•Sunderland - 126
•Newcastle - 123
•Manchester City - 108

Every club has its troublemakers

Panthro

Someone linked this https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aaron-Cawley-Is-a-Wanker/292086804237526 to his page.
Ha!:pac:

Melion

This picture of him is hilarious

Panthro

/\/\/\ Full kit wanker?

Felexicon

Melion wrote: »

This picture of him is hilarious

Full kit wanker!!

Panthro

@Felexicon, SNAP!:D

kitakyushu

delad wrote: »

Why don't Irish teams have firms?

The possible candidates are too busy playing Donkey Kong to get organised into firms.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ef_1332099219

Speaking of Irish clubs tho, I haven't been to too many cross channel games so I can't comment on what various clubs support is like. But I have seen a fair few English teams over here when they play pre-season friendlies. The travelling crowds were usually grand and well behaved but I do remember one game (Shels v Leeds, prob mid 90s) where I did get a bad vibe off their crowd for whatever reason.

But it was one guy in particular at the game that I remember. He had Leeds jersey and Yorkshire accent and prior to kick-off was walking around the stands at Tolka Park and up to locals saying stuff "Do you 'ave Paki's in this country? I ****in' 'ate Paki's!". He didn't stop there tho. He went up to stewards AND EVEN GARDAI and kept up this line of enquiry until kick off. Fortunately everyone I saw him ask just ignored him or laughed him off. He wasn't high or drunk or anything I think this was just normal behaviour for him. I was fairly young at the time and as I describe it I guess it probably doesn’t sound too bad to some people reading now , but it made quite an impression on me at the time. I was thinking "man I hope this guy is not typical of Leeds United supporters?"

That's my memory anyway. I'm not ManU or SheffWed or whatever their rival club is so I'm not trying to pointscore. Just something that came to me at the mention of Leeds possibly not having the most civil supporters in the world (and I don't know if that's the case or not).

Anyway, I hope the guy who hit Kirkland gets banned .... again.

Ares

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Wow, using this to get a dig in at United. Unreal how people find these opportunities.

He's not wrong. I know a United lad who regularly attends away matches and some of the stuff he writes on facebook are mindblowingly retarded. (Hillsborough, Heysel, Wenger is a paedophile, Sol Campbell)

I can only imagine that in a group of like minded individuals behind a goal in some part of England its worse.

Only anecdotal evidence I know but I've never met a Pool/Arsenal/Chelsea/Everton/City/Maidstone fan write/talk like I've heard some United fans speak.

Carcharodon

Des wrote: »

I hate this, every time a fan acts like this, no matter what club, this line is trotted out to distance the club from this type of person.

They ARE fans.

I don't think you were meant to take what he said as literal :rolleyes:

Carcharodon

Deank wrote: »

Leeds fans in the UK = pure scum, the chants the throw out at games is nothing short of vile. They have a history of having w@nker fans who have no respect for any club they play. May the rot in the realms of the conference leagues for all eternity, their supporters deserve no place in the higher football leagues

Any screening left on soccer boards anymore ??? One can only laugh at the thought process of someone like this.