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Shooting in America

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  • #102
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Excellent maths skills there Capt. :)

    On the Chris Rock idea of taxing bullets at $1,000 each, then I'd be fcuked.
    I must have fired €1,000,000 worth of bullets this weekend.

    "You better hope i can't get these on lay-away"
    "Maaaaan - i'm a pop a cap in yo ass....if i coulkd afford it"

    Epics


  • #103
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    coonecb1 wrote: »
    I like Chris Rock's idea of making the guns freely available, but making the bullets cost at least a grand

    Be more effective if they were costing three-fiddy.


  • #104
    Capt'n Midnight
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    The banning of guns doesn't prevent gun crime.

    In the UK, they banned pistols after the Dunblane massacre in 1996.
    It was embarassing to watch UK gun debates saying they had some of the toughest hand gun laws in the world when the only country they had a land border with had banned them completely for civilians since the 1920's.

    In the UK aren't they now proposing to charge illegal gun suppliers with murder ?


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    In other news today, Cats drink milk../QUOTE]Milk is not good for cats.


  • #105
    old hippy
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    We are all ethnic. As for the question, when will it stop? Well, you'd have to make some serious changes to the constitution and the mindset.

    And no, not all Americans are gun loving individuals.


  • #106
    Suryavarman
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    And yes it's culture. Places like Canada , Scandanavia, Switzerland, Italy have similarly high gun ownership and hunting cultures and a tiny fraction of the carnage. But even they, like the UK , have mass murders because of easy access to long range weapons. If someone comes at you with a knife you have the possibility of running away or defending yourself with a stick.

    What if one isn't fast enough to run away? Criminals generally target people they believe they have an advantage over. Therfore criminals will target somebody that is overweight or elderly as they won't be able to get away from the criminal. Or they might target a female because they look weak.

    Your suggestion that somebody should use a stick is laughable. Are we supposed to carry around sticks with us now? Or will the criminal hand us a stick so that there's a little bit of competition in our fight? Or are we supposed to pick up one of the sticks that are in plentiful supply on the streets of our towns and cities?

    Let's work off the assumption that we brought a stick or we weren't stabbed picking it up and that it could actually do some damage. What are we suposed to do after the first blow and the stick breaks? Or if the stick is taken from us? Or if the fight ends up at close range? Then the victim is in serious bother. Whereas if the victim has a gun, simply brandishing the gun will usually cause the criminal to retreat. Or in the scenario that the gun is used, the criminal is incapacitated or dead.


  • #107
    Witcher
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    It was embarassing to watch UK gun debates saying they had some of the toughest hand gun laws in the world when the only country they had a land border with had banned them completely for civilians since the 1920's.

    Hand guns were only banned from 1972-2004. Before and after that period you could licence pistols. Right now in Britain you can't own any pistol except for an air pistol. NI is a different story..they've their own laws.


  • #108
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    What if one isn't fast enough to run away? Criminals generally target people they believe they have an advantage over. Therfore criminals will target somebody that is overweight or elderly as they won't be able to get away from the criminal. Or they might target a female because they look weak.

    Your suggestion that somebody should use a stick is laughable. Are we supposed to carry around sticks with us now? Or will the criminal hand us a stick so that there's a little bit of competition in our fight? Or are we supposed to pick up one of the sticks that are in plentiful supply on the streets of our towns and cities?

    Let's work off the assumption that we brought a stick or we weren't stabbed picking it up and that it could actually do some damage. What are we suposed to do after the first blow and the stick breaks? Or if the stick is taken from us? Or if the fight ends up at close range? Then the victim is in serious bother. Whereas if the victim has a gun, simply brandishing the gun will usually cause the criminal to retreat. Or in the scenario that the gun is used, the criminal is incapacitated or dead.
    This is in fact the very reason there are handguns designed to be fired by the elderly or physically disabled.


  • #109
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Suryavarman wrote: »
    What if one isn't fast enough to run away?
    :rolleyes:

    The point is that if the criminal has a gun it can be used at a distance so very little risk to them.


  • #110
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Blay wrote: »
    Hand guns were only banned from 1972-2004. Before and after that period you could licence pistols. Right now in Britain you can't own any pistol except for an air pistol. NI is a different story..they've their own laws.
    /my bad

    thought they were banned in 1925 :o

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1925/en/act/pub/0017/index.html


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