You've Been Trumped

FixdePitchmark

Anybody see it or watching it BB2.

PARlance

Just switched it on now, ta

FixdePitchmark

Golf is evil (lol)

The Royal Scam

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Anybody see it or watching it BB2.

Yeah , just finished watching it. Some nasty stuff happening right there. I can't see something like that being popular with all the amazing old style courses in the area.

m r c

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Anybody see it or watching it BB2.

Seen the start, set to record and went to bed ;-)

FixdePitchmark

m r c wrote: »

Seen the start, set to record and went to bed ;-)

It is a shocker what went on. Money talks man.

FixdePitchmark

The Royal Scam wrote: »

Yeah , just finished watching it. Some nasty stuff happening right there. I can't see something like that being popular with all the amazing old style courses in the area.

It is meant to be unreal good. Stunning.

MP62

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

It is meant to be unreal good. Stunning.

The best course in the world perhaps?!.

FixdePitchmark

MP62 wrote: »

The best course in the world perhaps?!.

Who says that ?

FixdePitchmark

Don't think I would play it after watching this.

m r c

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Who says that ?

Wait till he gives golf digest a few million to go higher than Augusta :-)

FixdePitchmark

Great Doc - Too one sided , but that is what it is about.

Fair play to that lad who did it, so much of his own time, for very little - but the truth.

MP62

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Don't think I would play it after watching this.

+1
I always thought he was an arrogant juan ker, now I know for sure he is and definitely wouldn't play it now.
Also has to be said his head green keeper Paul o Conor came across really badly, and it wasn't a great advertisement for Sol construction either, both Irish btw.

FixdePitchmark

MP62 wrote: »

+1
I always thought he was an arrogant juan ker, now I know for sure he is and definitely wouldn't play it now.
Also has to be said his head green keeper Paul o Conor came across really badly, and it wasn't a great advertisement for Sol construction either, both Irish btw.

The Irish are up to their eyes in this.

Real questions about the Police coercion too - Jaysus this is like Ireland under Fianna Fail.

FixdePitchmark

**** me - the fence - (lol)

This is more like Citzen Kane now.


Donald, where is your Rosebud.

fullstop

Comes across as an absolute wanker, Trump.

Lapin

"Who cares, who cares - Just get rid of those houses". :eek:

What a prick !

I definitely wouldn't play this course after seeing this.

FixdePitchmark

Lapin wrote: »

"Who cares, who cares - Just get rid of those houses". :eek:

What a prick !

I definitely wouldn't play this course after seeing this.

Lol,

I swear if you read that in Dickens you would laugh, he said that.

SnowDrifts

Some pics in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79705351


Trump really is some pr*ck. And trying to charge for the fence! :eek:

FixdePitchmark

Braveheart needed.

Lapin

Good documentary, but that final piece (the maker of the film trying to call Trump from a phonebox) was just silly. No need for it.

maringo

Money talks, corruption rules. Sickening to watch Trump's operation intimidate to force those people from their homes with the help of the local council it appears. Trump later made a statement that he wouldn't be looking for CPOs on the houses but whats the betting he would have got them :mad:

MP62

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Jaysus this is like Ireland under Fianna Fail.

Not even trump could trump that.

FixdePitchmark

Lapin wrote: »

Good documentary, but that final piece (the maker of the film trying to call Trump from a phonebox) was just silly. No need for it.

It was a reference to a famous add (I think ?).

Or some deep symbolic ****, the hopelessness of coins versus an evil empire , (no drink tonight ), real golf in am.

WoundedRhino

I'm from Aberdeenshire, the course is about 20 miles from where I grew up. I lived in Aberdeen up until last year, nobody I know wanted the thing built, the whole project was hugely unpopular and there was massive public opposition, but Trump had everyone bought. All the local papers did was report about how great it was going to be and run smear stories about the protesters and the local residents. Loads of people reported rough treatment from the security staff or even from the police if they went near the site. People who were just out walking on public ground were quickly intercepted by guys in dark Range Rovers and warned not to go near it or face reprisals. Well shady.

Just FYI, the first course was opened but the hotel and villas still haven't been started. Trump is holding off on it until the Scottish Government agrees to cancel plans for a windfarm just off the coast, which knowing Alex Salmond and his cronies, they will probably do. Oh yeah and the course costs £195 for a single round, which means that the vast majority of local golfers can't even afford to play on it.

Kevinmarkham

WoundedRhino wrote: »

I'm from Aberdeenshire

Interestingly, WoundedRhino, I've received some unpleasant comments (on my blog) from golfers in Aberdeen who all swear blind that everyone in the area was 100% behind the course and, clearly, I didn't know what I was talking about - I've put up three separate blogs about the Trump's course.

It may well be one of the best in the world (golf mags are raving about it) but it was a disgrace how it was developed and no respect for the environment (nothing new there).

I haven't seen the programme yet, so will have to make do with this personal favourite Trump video from YouTube

WH BONNEY

Any idea where I can get to see this programme ?

ThunderCat

Watched this last night, and all throughout construction I knew there was opposition from the locals but it really was an eye opener seeing all the underhand tactics used by trump and his entourage. The treatment of the locals was nothing short of disgraceful and very little if anything at all was done to help them. No doubt that trump has a world class course there but the damage to the locals lives and livelihoods should be worth more. It goes to show that if you throw enough money at any problem, it goes away. And talk about not being sympathetic to the land - other course architects (namely greg norman at doonbeg, mc clay-kidd at macrihanish dunes) were not allowed to touch certain dunes due to their flora and fauna etc. yet trump completely levels the ones at his site. His workmen wildly deviated from the plans and the mounds of sand put up in front of that womans house blocking her view was terrible. The model for all them villas just looks completely out of place on that land and countryside and with a bit of luck they don't get built. Judging by the reviews and the photos, the course looks amazing but I think if I was in that neck of the woods, after what I'd seen last night, I'd keep on going up the road to Cruden Bay.

mike65

Its on again tonight at 00.20 am on BBC2

MiniGolf

mike65 wrote: »

Its on again tonight at 00.20 am on BBC2

Except BBC2 Northern Ireland!! :mad:

FixdePitchmark

Sort of on topic -

Stick with this , some job done on Trump by Obama and his team - was pay back for questioning his Nationality.

ForeRight

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Sort of on topic -

Stick with this , some job done on Trump by Obama and his team - was pay back for questioning his Nationality.

Brilliant

FixdePitchmark

ForeRight wrote: »

Brilliant

Great writing, and fair play Obama with his timing. He knew he was going too far (for a president), but what Trump did , sort of sums the man up.

Anyway. Sorry for detour.

spacecoyote

Was great if depressing viewing. It certainly would put you off ever wanting to play the course.

Even my wife, who would rather stick pins in her eyes than watch golf was getting passionate watching this.

Whatever about dodgy land deals, etc... the whole atmosphere with the local police was certainly the most disturbing aspect of the situation.

ForeRight

I have the recorder set for this tonight and cant wait to watch it tomorrow.

the lawman

I haven't watched it yet and I'll miss it tonight but you can order it from here. Available in November.

http://www.youvebeentrumped.com/youvebeentrumped.com/THE_MOVIE.html

duckysauce

fullstop wrote: »

Comes across as an absolute wanker, Trump.

Paul O'Connor came across as a massive one too --is that camera expensive?:mad:

Stay classy Paul

Mister Sifter

duckysauce wrote: »

Paul O'Connor came across as a massive one too --is that camera expensive?:mad:

Stay classy Paul

Agreed, but in fairness to him he ended up falling out with Trump after Trump demanded that he build big mounds of soil behind houses. O'Connor apparently refused and we saw last night how Trump deals with other people's opinions. Think he took Trump to court for unfair dismissal.

FixdePitchmark

http://www.trippinguptrump.com/news/donald-trumps-star-greenkeeper-sacked-over-wall-of-earth

Fair play to him.

Hard when a camera is put in your face like that for the first time in your life.

P_1

MiniGolf wrote: »

Except BBC2 Northern Ireland!! :mad:

Not sure if its kosher posting this link but it should be useful given the digital switchover.

filmon.com

Its basically a live streaming site of the main UK FTA channels, including the non Northern Ireland BBC2.

duckysauce

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

http://www.trippinguptrump.com/news/donald-trumps-star-greenkeeper-sacked-over-wall-of-earth

Fair play to him.

Hard when a camera is put in your face like that for the first time in your life.

not hard at all, an excuse me please would do fine, not to come out with idle threats. And it took him a year to realise dump is a complete stain .

slave1

Recorded it and watched it last night, very well edited and extrememly frustrating viewing, frustration on behalf of the local but also it was (as expected) very one sided, it was all doom and gloom with not a single person apart from Trump wanting the course there.
Bottom line is no development of that magnitude will birth without a level of unease from some stakeholder.
Don't get me wrong, Trumps antics are unforgivable, the police in particular.
I was disappointed at the Irish lad's involvement but there was no need to leave in the comment about the price of the camera equipment, it was left in alluding to intimidation/something could happen that expensive stuff etc.
Pleased just to read this thread and read about him eventually leaving due to the very sad creations of mounds of earth around folks homes, just a demonsatation that it was all one sided as the guy left in November 2010 which could easily have been incoroprated into the film.
Not a balanced view and no debate without both sides of the argument being transparant is truly acceptable.
I won't be playing it because it's too expensive and I'm not going to get on moral ground to make my decision.
All a shame really, but I don't expect Trump will lose an ounce of sleep and I have to say the photos from the other thread (setting aside the film) make it look stunning, stunning indeed...

Happyman42

slave1 wrote: »

All a shame really, but I don't expect Trump will lose an ounce of sleep and I have to say the photos from the other thread (setting aside the film) make it look stunning, stunning indeed...

Would be really good for the World Golfing Federation (if such a body is called that) to make an announcement on stuff like this. That the environment is more important than nice scenery to chase after a ball in. There are plenty of tracts of land that would benefit from landscaping without destorying the last remmnants of coastal havens like this.
I'm a huge fan of golf, but not at this expense. Trump should be ashamed of himself but more importantly, the people who let this happen (the Scottish government and planners) should be more ashamed and hounded out of their offices.

PARlance

http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2012/12/15/trump-has-sunk-to-a-new-low.html

Trump at it again

The Guardian

Anyone know where one might be able to see / download this?

:cool:

SnowDrifts

The Guardian wrote: »

Anyone know where one might be able to see / download this?

:cool:

PM sent.

gary29428

Can you PM me also SnowDrifts...

Thanks

SnowDrifts

Done

BigChap1759

slave1 wrote: »

Recorded it and watched it last night, very well edited and extrememly frustrating viewing, frustration on behalf of the local but also it was (as expected) very one sided, it was all doom and gloom with not a single person apart from Trump wanting the course there.
Bottom line is no development of that magnitude will birth without a level of unease from some stakeholder.
Don't get me wrong, Trumps antics are unforgivable, the police in particular.
I was disappointed at the Irish lad's involvement but there was no need to leave in the comment about the price of the camera equipment, it was left in alluding to intimidation/something could happen that expensive stuff etc.
Pleased just to read this thread and read about him eventually leaving due to the very sad creations of mounds of earth around folks homes, just a demonsatation that it was all one sided as the guy left in November 2010 which could easily have been incoroprated into the film.
Not a balanced view and no debate without both sides of the argument being transparant is truly acceptable.
I won't be playing it because it's too expensive and I'm not going to get on moral ground to make my decision.
All a shame really, but I don't expect Trump will lose an ounce of sleep and I have to say the photos from the other thread (setting aside the film) make it look stunning, stunning indeed...

Agreed that this was one sided in the extreme - I'm a member of several UK golf forums where local people have stated there was plenty of local support for the project particularly due to the jobs created.....but then this wouldn't have made a good documentary.....

The Guardian

If I got a few free rounds there I'm sure I could be convinced that Trump is a good honest business man.

The Guardian

watched this last night
thanks snowdrifts

trump just being trump as far as i could see - no surprises there
the man has little class, indeed his entire family dont

what is really disappointing is the role assumed by the the scottish govt
they completely sold out to trump

not completely clear what is the position on the environmental damage - seems to have completely overhauled a natural habitat and dunes system. which is a shame obviously. i'm not sure if any environmental grps gave the green light here. appears not. golf and the local ecosystems and co exist btw. plenty examples worldwide. suspect this compromise wasnt gonna be offered by donald tho.

local guys are portrayed as redneck simpletons when it suits the documentary maker. he could have done better than this i'm sure.