Horses on the road

Boombastic

Driving along today and out of the corner of my eye, I see a horse jumping over a wall and on to the road. I slammed on the brakes and so did the guy coming from the opposite direction. The horse ran across the road and on to the green area where it happily started grazing.


The 'farmer' stood at the door of his residence watching the whole scenario unfold and laughing.


Another day last week, on a different road there was a horse tied up along the edge of the road, rolling as if scratching? on the grass. It's legs were on and off the road as it turned over and back and cars had to avoid it.


How is this allowed? Would the insurance cover it if I hit either of the horses?

dodderangler

Nayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

TheBegotten

No matter how much you beat a dead horse, it won't gallop away. So let that be a lesson to ya: Be careful who you piss off or you'll find several hundred pounds of Pedigree chum and glue on your lawn...

vicwatson

dodderangler wrote: »

Nayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

Hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy quit that !

AnonoBoy

The horse is a noble creature.

The horse farmer even nobler again.

But the horse farmer's wife is the noblest of all these creatures.

For it is she who knits the saddles that protect the horses from Ford Cortinas, Escorts and Mondeos when it makes its sacred way across the dual carriageway and inevitably ends up in the great glue factory in the sky.

Neigh. Neigh. Neigh indeed old girl.

Neigh indeed.

Amen.

irishgirl19

my dad was driving through a back road one night coming home from the night shift,and 2 horses got loose from the field. Both were running down towards the car on the tiny road. He didn't know what to do and just took a chance and flashed his lights and kept beeping and they turned for the opposite direction. Thank God, those things wouldve went right through the car and couldve killed him.

HeyThereDeliah

Boombastic wrote: »

How is this allowed? Would the insurance cover it if I hit either of the horses?

If you have comprehensive it covers you but the owner is responsible and you can follow him for the damage.

wonderfulname

Boombastic wrote: »

How is this allowed?

It's not, I would be inclined to report such situations to the ISPCA or the guards, especially the latter instance.

Boombastic

irishgirl19 wrote: »

my dad was driving through a back road one night coming home from the night shift,and 2 horses got loose from the field. Both were running down towards the car on the tiny road. He didn't know what to do and just took a chance and flashed his lights and kept beeping and they turned for the opposite direction. Thank God, those things wouldve went right through the car and couldve killed him.

I'd be afraid to frighten the horse by beeping or flashing lights at them, you're dad was lucky



The rest of ye rein in that madness for a bit, I was in shock for a while but I'm stable now:p

Talib Fiasco

You should come to Cork where the horses rule the fast lanes...

Boombastic

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

If you have comprehensive it covers you but the owner is responsible and you can follow him for the damage.

I think it'd be pointless following these type of owners if anything happened, I reckon they'd be gone before I realised what had happened

wonderfulname wrote: »

It's not, I would be inclined to report such situations to the ISPCA or the guards, especially the latter instance.

Would the guards be interested in this? The horses aren't neglected (apart from being tied up on the road) so I'm not sure the ISPCA would do much but I will report to both tomorrow. It could end in disaster for some poor motorist

irishgirl19

Boombastic wrote: »

I'd be afraid to frighten the horse by beeping or flashing lights at them, you're dad was lucky



The rest of ye rein in that madness for a bit, I was in shock for a while but I'm stable now:p

yeah thats what he thought.but they were running towards him so it was either do that or be crushed.

I wonder though would the farmer try chase you for the money if you hit one though, like the way you can be liable if you hit a sheep or a deer, even though the things jump out on the roads. those horses cost a fortune

Scruffles

Would the guards be interested in this? The horses aren't neglected (apart from being tied up on the road) so I'm not sure the ISPCA would do much but I will report to both tomorrow. It could end in disaster for some poor motorist

no they wont,they only take away horses if they are 'visibly suffering',at least thats what their english alternative;RSPCA calls it.
even in cases of visible suffering,they fck about for a while getting an independant vet out to inspect as well and in that time people are able to either disapear or hide their animals.
we had near by cases of horse neglect from the minority of local bad travellers we have,they were clearly suffering but the rspca and independant vet said not enough! and they call themselves animal lovers.
have seen uk horse forums arrange rescue missions of criticaly neglected horses [the owners had even abandoned them],the rspca and their independant vet didnt give a damn but the ILPH did.

HeyThereDeliah

irishgirl19 wrote: »

those horses cost a fortune

Those horses are nags, the owners could not give them away at the moment, any valuable horse is not grazing on the side of the road.

Boombastic

Scruffles wrote: »

no they wont,they only take away horses if they are 'visibly suffering',at least thats what their english alternative;RSPCA calls it.
even in cases of visible suffering,they fck about for a while getting an independant vet out to inspect as well and in that time people are able to either disapear or hide their animals.
we had near by cases of horse neglect from the minority of local bad travellers we have,they were clearly suffering but the rspca and independant vet said not enough! and they call themselves animal lovers.
have seen uk horse forums arrange rescue missions of criticaly neglected horses [the owners had even abandoned them],the rspca and their independant vet didnt give a damn but the ILPH did.

I figured as much

Would the department of Agriculture be interested? In feb this year, according to this places where horse are kept must be registered.


'The Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Simon Coveney TD, has signed into law, a new order to require anyone who is the owner/person in charge of any premises in which horses or other equines (such as donkeys, ponies etc) are kept to register their premises with the Department. This Order completes the Department’s commitment to have a full register of premises on which all farmed animals are kept. Currently premises where cattle, sheep, pigs or poultry are kept must be registered.....................

The owners/persons in charge of premises where horses are kept will be required to maintain records to assist the Department in tracing horses, should a disease outbreak occur. The scale of record keeping required depends on the premises. For example, premises where horses are kept on a temporary basis (studs, shows, sales, farriers, vets etc) must record the date, UELN, name, address and the premises of origin ID of the animals brought onto their premises. Premises where there is permanent residency would be required to maintain records of 'permanent' movements off the premises of any resident equine being transferred to another premises on a permanent basis or similarly permanent movements onto the premises - to include date, UELN and premises ID to/from which the equine has moved.'

irishgirl19

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

Those horses are nags, the owners could not give them away at the moment, any valuable horse is not grazing on the side of the road.

no like I mean if a throughbred got out. I live near the curragh so there are plenty around. I know they are well kept but hypothetically if someone hit a loose one

HeyThereDeliah

irishgirl19 wrote: »

no like I mean if a throughbred got out. I live near the curragh so there are plenty around. I know they are well kept but hypothetically if someone hit a loose one

The owner is responsible regardless, these horses will not get out. If you hit someone's dog damaging your car you can claim of the owner.

My name is URL

For some reason I read the title of this thread to the tune of California Love

wonderfulname

Boombastic wrote: »

Would the guards be interested in this? The horses aren't neglected (apart from being tied up on the road) so I'm not sure the ISPCA would do much but I will report to both tomorrow. It could end in disaster for some poor motorist

It's a serious danger to road users, of course they would be, I'm sure they'd prefer a small call out to a serious accident. And improper fencing is something that's taken seriously enough when it comes to horses, might not be the ISPCAs remit (not sure who's it is tbh, I has assumed REPS made it a rare issue these days) but it's not okay. Tying an animal at the side of the road in that manner also constitutes neglect/cruelty, the ISPCA are pretty damn busy atm but an owner doing the latter is definitely someone they should speak to.

wonderfulname

Scruffles wrote: »

no they wont,they only take away horses if they are 'visibly suffering',at least thats what their english alternative;RSPCA calls it.

I'm not suggesting they be taken away, that's not all the ISPCA does.

Boombastic

wonderfulname wrote: »

It's a serious danger to road users, of course they would be, I'm sure they'd prefer a small call out to a serious accident. And improper fencing is something that's taken seriously enough when it comes to horses, might not be the ISPCAs remit (not sure who's it is tbh, I has assumed REPS made it a rare issue these days) but it's not okay. Tying an animal at the side of the road in that manner also constitutes neglect/cruelty, the ISPCA are pretty damn busy atm but an owner doing the latter is definitely someone they should speak to.

The area where the horses are grazing is council property, they're no fences at all. The owner of the horses doesn't own the land. I will let the gardai know tomorrow, I would hate to hear of an accident because of this, knowing I had done nothing