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VRT a bike..

  • 23-10-2012 3:27pm
    #1
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭


    Asking this for a mate..How complicated is it to VRT a bike nowadays, He's a bit confused about what you REALLY need to bring...he doesnt have an invoice and just has a ferry boarding card...


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  • #2
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭Wossack


    bring everything you can - think its the NCT crowd doing it these days, and vrting bikes is slightly different then for cars (as its purely down to age and cc. Not cost)

    may be worthwhile doing up a dated handwritten receipt - just in case..

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/vrt-guide.html#section3 would be a better list


    when I did mine years back, I just needed ID, and a certificate of export from NI (brand new bike, never registered in NI). Typically, you'd need a V5 from the UK, or some sort of registration paperwork from where its originating


  • #3
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    You get a quote, and pay at your local NTCS centre.

    http://www.ncts.ie/vrt.html

    If the bike has a large engine, be prepared to sell a kidney to pay the VRT as it is based on engine size, not the cost of the bike or its age.


  • #4
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,619 ✭✭✭prunudo


    No harm for him to fill in this link
    https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html?execution=e1s2

    Will save on any shocks when he gets to the nct centre.


  • #5
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    You get a quote, and pay at your local NTCS centre.

    http://www.ncts.ie/vrt.html

    If the bike has a large engine, be prepared to sell a kidney to pay the VRT as it is based on engine size, not the cost of the bike or its age.

    It's not that bad. It's €2 per cc upto 350cc and €1 for every cc above, you then get 10% off per year. They don't charge for extras like on cars so you can buy fully loaded and pay the same as bare bones.


  • #6
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,784 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Max Headroom wrote: »
    Asking this for a mate..How complicated is it to VRT a bike nowadays, He's a bit confused about what you REALLY need to bring...he doesnt have an invoice and just has a ferry boarding card...

    I vrt'd a bike a short while ago, and they asked for an invoice. They took a copy of it, and attached it to their papework - mind you, it was only one I'd typed up, so not exactly an insurmountable problem.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #7
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Del2005 wrote: »
    It's not that bad. It's €2 per cc upto 350cc and €1 for every cc above, you then get 10% off per year. They don't charge for extras like on cars so you can buy fully loaded and pay the same as bare bones.

    €1200 for my 850 cc bike (new). It's scandalous.


  • #8
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    €1200 for my 850 cc bike (new). It's scandalous.

    It's not as bad as cars. They can get a quote and when they go to pay get charged loads more for extras. At least we know exactly how much it'll cost and can budget accordingly.

    BTW what is the pre tax price, what % of the new price was VRT?

    Not that I agree with the tax or level but it's here and not going to go away.


  • #9
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,784 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    €1200 for my 850 cc bike (new). It's scandalous.

    Actually, it's not.

    I know it galls to pay them anything, but bikes aren't as cheap as you think in other jurisdicitions either, and in some, much higher than here (Scandanavia, Denmark, for example).

    If it really bugs you, buy a used bike - problem solved.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #10
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Actually, it's not.

    I know it galls to pay them anything, but bikes aren't as cheap as you think in other jurisdicitions either, and in some, much higher than here (Scandanavia, Denmark, for example).

    If it really bugs you, buy a used bike - problem solved.

    I bought the bike in the UK. If I lived there, or left the bike there then it was just bike cost + 20% VAT (I didn't actually pay UK VAT as I bought bike for export).

    When I imported it to here, it was bike cost + 23% Irish VAT + €1200 VRT.
    VRT + VAT accounted for practically a third of the overall cost of the bike. I don't know about Denmark, but compared to the UK, it is very expensive).

    It's also unfair to penalise those who wish to buy a larger cc bike.


  • #11
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    I bought the bike in the UK. If I lived there, or left the bike there then it was just bike cost + 20% VAT (I didn't actually pay UK VAT as I bought bike for export).

    When I imported it to here, it was bike cost + 23% Irish VAT + €1200 VRT.
    VRT + VAT accounted for practically a third of the overall cost of the bike. I don't know about Denmark, but compared to the UK, it is very expensive).

    It's also unfair to penalise those who wish to buy a larger cc bike.


    Why didnt you just pay the uk vat then..? and pay the vrt here....or stick 6000km on it in 6 months and pay no vat..
    As far as I can remember the system has always been €2/cc up to 350 and €1 /cc after..


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  • #12
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Max Headroom wrote: »
    Why didnt you just pay the uk vat then..? and pay the vrt here....or stick 6000km on it in 6 months and pay no vat..
    As far as I can remember the system has always been €2/cc up to 350 and €1 /cc after..

    If new and VAT is paid in the UK, I'd still have to pay VAT in Ireland. I would have to leave it in the UK for 6 months and rack up a certain amount of millage (can't recall how much) before it would be classed as 'not new'. Due to the amount of traveling I do, this was not an option.


  • #13
    RosieJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    How's the bike going for you CR?


  • #14
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    RosieJoe wrote: »
    How's the bike going for you CR?

    It's brilliant thanks.

    Don't want to derail this thread any further though, so I'll leave it at that. :D


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