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ResearchWill · 25-02-2013 5:11pm

lala88 wrote: »

I just find it strange that the naysayers will claim a person with a low post count who disagrees with them has to be involved in what they disagree with yet when a person with a low post count agrees with them they dont discredit them, whys that?

If you look at that posters history, it goes back over a year, and he has posted about BOI shares, alsoanother ponzi scheme and a few other issues, so not a account set up just to deal with this topic, in my opinion.

lala88 · 25-02-2013 7:02pm

MIRMIR82 wrote: »

That's because you are 'for' banner brokers. This could cause a reader to possibly invest in it and possibly lose their money. Someone against it won't cost anyone anything. You are so defensive throughout this thread, i've laughed everyday at your posts, its quiet evident you invested and you're either so deep into it you can't see what you're at or you're so brainwashed by it all you truly believe in it all!!!
Yes this is my first post, but i have followed this thread since the beginning, because i was asked to invest in BB, several members of my family already have!!

Proves what i said, if someone comes on and is 'for' something and have a low post count there view is discredited, so why should the same not be done when a person with a low most cout is against something?

Thargor · 25-02-2013 8:15pm

Why do you focus on low post counts and for and against positions like they're the Sacred Laws of Boards.ie though? This is about a clear pyramid/ponzi scheme, completely indefensible just by the illogical way it operates. If there was any truth in the way they claim to make their money then they would have got venture capital to go it alone not the ridiculously inefficient route of sucking in dribs and drabs from hundreds of regular people. If there was any truth to their claims about all the money they're making loads of others would be offering the same thing or doing it better without the burden of investors, you still havent pointed to a single one of these ads that are making all these thousands of Euro in returns either, any chance you could contact the guy who sold you the investment and ask him for a link?

lala88 · 25-02-2013 8:35pm

Thargor wrote: »

Why do you focus on low post counts and for and against positions like they're the Sacred Laws of Boards.ie though? This is about a clear pyramid/ponzi scheme, completely indefensible just by the illogical way it operates. If there was any truth in the way they claim to make their money then they would have got venture capital to go it alone not the ridiculously inefficient route of sucking in dribs and drabs from hundreds of regular people. If there was any truth to their claims about all the money they're making loads of others would be offering the same thing or doing it better without the burden of investors, you still havent pointed to a single one of these ads that are making all these thousands of Euro in returns either, any chance you could contact the guy who sold you the investment and ask him for a link?

Ah its the people who are anti things who normally claim a person who has a low post count and disagree with them have to be part of the thing there anti and there wrong, so why then is the same not done when a person with a low post count but agrees with them comes on here?

All of what you said could be said about the likes of Google could it not? Why dont others do the same as them? Why do they need investors?

You or anyone else for that matter haven't shown where people are losing all there money? Like i said plenty of times already it should be very easy for you and the others? But of course you dont need to do that because its something Boards is anti and you dont need anything to back up the claims that are made

Thargor · 25-02-2013 8:40pm

lala88 wrote: »

Ah its the people who are anti things who normally claim a person who has a low post count and disagree with them have to be part of the thing there anti and there wrong, so why then is the same not done when a person with a low post count but agrees with them comes on here?

:P

I think Ill leave you to it lala, hope you get some of your money out.

lala88 · 25-02-2013 8:44pm

Thargor wrote: »

:P

I think Ill leave you to it lala, hope you get some of your money out.

Topical answer. Why not give an actual answer? If you and the others are so sure cant be hard as iv asked plenty of times as its the likes of you and others that have to prove its a scam, you know the same way you andd others demand proof when you disagree with something. Just another case of boards bias. Also surprise surprise no sign of a mod....

martyoo · 25-02-2013 8:45pm

All of what you said could be said about the likes of Google could it not?

No, for many different reasons, the main one being that Google has a product (AdWords). Bannersbroker does not. If it does then show it to us.

I have asked on this thread months ago to be shown one website that has a Bannersbroker ad and yet no one has being able to provide any evidence of a website running a Bannersbroker ad.

So instead of worrying about low post counts ask yourself what does this "business" do?

martyoo · 25-02-2013 8:47pm

If you and the others are so sure cant be hard as iv asked plenty of times as its the likes of you and others that have to prove its a scam,

I don't like using caps but I am going to make an exception.

THEY HAVE NO PRODUCT. IT IS A PONZI SCHEME.

lala in every sense............

lala88 · 25-02-2013 8:51pm

martyoo wrote: »

No, for many different reasons, the main one being that Google has a product (AdWords). Bannersbroker does not. If it does then show it to us.

I have asked on this thread months ago to be shown one website that has a Bannersbroker ad and yet no one has being able to provide any evidence of a website running a Bannersbroker ad.

So instead of worrying about low post counts ask yourself what does this "business" do?

Again its normally the people who are anti things on here who will post out peoples post count to discredit things so why is it different when a person with a low post count agrees with them?

ResearchWill · 25-02-2013 8:58pm

lala88 wrote: »

Again its normally the people who are anti things on here who will post out peoples post count to discredit things so why is it different when a person with a low post count agrees with them?

Ok I will try and explain this. If a person with a low post count comes on to promote a company, product or service it will raise suspension. Same if a person comes on with low count to knock a business.

What I then do is to look at post history, if there is none and its a recent account I will usually ignore the poster. In this case both you and the other poster have history of posts not associated with this thread and both accounts are not new, so the issue does not arise. It's really simple if you think it through.

lala88 · 25-02-2013 9:02pm

ResearchWill wrote: »

Ok I will try and explain this. If a person with a low post count comes on to promote a company, product or service it will raise suspension. Same if a person comes on with low count to knock a business.

What I then do is to look at post history, if there is none and its a recent account I will usually ignore the poster. In this case both you and the other poster have history of posts not associated with this thread and both accounts are not new, so the issue does not arise. It's really simple if you think it through.

Yes but there have been a few lately who have signed up knocking it and people say nothing about them (in act people agree with them because they again with what they have to say) but the same posters will knock a poster who disagrees with them based on there post count, whats the difference?

ResearchWill · 25-02-2013 9:09pm

lala88 wrote: »

Ah its the people who are anti things who normally claim a person who has a low post count and disagree with them have to be part of the thing there anti and there wrong, so why then is the same not done when a person with a low post count but agrees with them comes on here?

All of what you said could be said about the likes of Google could it not? Why dont others do the same as them? Why do they need investors?

You or anyone else for that matter haven't shown where people are losing all there money? Like i said plenty of times already it should be very easy for you and the others? But of course you dont need to do that because its something Boards is anti and you dont need anything to back up the claims that are made

Google has a product in fact products, google produces annual in fact quarterly accounts which are prepared by accounts and signed off by auditors (I know that's not always great). If I want to invest in google, or amazon, apple etc. I can look at the accounts, I can see for example how many apple iPhones apple sold Q1 2012. I have tried to get accounts for BB can you give me a link to them. Also I know for a fact that BB banks in Belize (look up banking there).

The problem with a Ponzi scheme is no one loses money until its too late, search for Madoff. The scheme works as follows a person says they have a product or system that no one else has (sound familiar) or that they can produce way more profit than any one else (Madoff promised minimum % every year, no one else could do it). Then the scheme pulls in new people, their money is used to pay the previous investors. Then more people to pay the people before, all along the person who started it is creaming off the top. The problem happens when people stop investing, then the previous guys can't get paid, then panic then it all goes wrong. The Madoff scheme was the longest running in history.

I will make you a promise, show me two large companies who buy space from BB and show me certified accounts for either 2011 or 2012 (showing a profit), I will invest €500 straight away. Simple just those things, the type of thing any prudent investor should see before investing.

ResearchWill · 25-02-2013 9:09pm

lala88 wrote: »

Yes but there have been a few lately who have signed up knocking it and people say nothing about them (in act people agree with them because they again with what they have to say) but the same posters will knock a poster who disagrees with them based on there post count, whats the difference?

No one is knocking you, we just think you are deluded.

lala88 · 25-02-2013 9:13pm

ResearchWill wrote: »

No one is knocking you, we just think you are deluded.

Im not talking about myself, im talking about the others who have come onhere and there views were shot down

Kristopherus · 25-02-2013 9:31pm

lala88 wrote: »

Im not talking about myself, im talking about the others who have come onhere and there views were shot down

Are you/Have you invested in BB? Straight answer, please. Yes or No?

lala88 · 25-02-2013 9:35pm

Kristopherus wrote: »

Are you/Have you invested in BB? Straight answer, please. Yes or No?

no as iv already said

Fitz123 · 25-02-2013 9:59pm

Just read some of this thread, and all I can say is wow !!

I made some money on my investment in a new startup, which was a chocolate teapot manufacture. I thought that was a good product, but this one just blows it away. Considering remortgaging to invest all I have

debaser13 · 06-03-2013 7:09pm

chocolate teapots...wow! If only i hadn't put all my money into banners broker first!!

But seriously, i actually have put some into banners..........its definately a scam. Just wanted some danger in my life. Stupid risk is what sets us apart from the animals.....isn't it??

Come back paula morton:-)

Nobby Noblet · 14-03-2013 5:37pm

Lala88 is trying to advertise BB so she doesn't lose out and it keeps going, she already has two new people throwing their money away as she has, so if she keeps up her insistence of questioning peoples thoughts against this scam, some will give in and fall into her grip. Ha Ha Lala88 your time is up.

lala88 · 14-03-2013 8:53pm

Nobby Noblet wrote: »

Lala88 is trying to advertise BB so she doesn't lose out and it keeps going, she already has two new people throwing their money away as she has, so if she keeps up her insistence of questioning peoples thoughts against this scam, some will give in and fall into her grip. Ha Ha Lala88 your time is up.

As per boards rules as you only have 3 posts your view doesnt matter, oh wait i forgot thats only when someone disagrees with boards.

Thats quite a claim to make but again as it goes with what boards think then its ok

Fitz123 · 14-03-2013 9:06pm

Lala, what are you on about ?

Do you honestly think BB is an "investment" ?

Jumboman · 14-03-2013 9:08pm

Fitz123 wrote: »

Lala, what are you on about ?

Do you honestly think BB is an "investment" ?

I'd like to know what drugs shes taking:D

Fitz123 · 14-03-2013 9:10pm

Likewise Jumboman.

I have seen debates whether or not Herbalife is a ponzi scheme. Quite an interesting debate from both sides, but on BB, I don't think there is much of a debate.

Agent J · 14-03-2013 9:33pm

From interacting with Lala on a different thread around scams I don't think they have a vested financial interest in Banners brokers. They just seem to have a vocal misguided opinion which they cannot support by reasonable argument. Any attempt to explain or question it is met either ignored or met with hostility. If all else fails they'll just try and strawman your arguement.

Not worth your time.

@Fitz123 Hadn't heard of Herbalife but on the surface of it.... MLM is a definite red flag for me. I can see why there would be debate on that one compared to BB. I'd argue it is a scam but a much more sophisitcated one that Banners brokers.

martyoo · 14-03-2013 9:34pm

I have seen debates whether or not Herbalife is a ponzi scheme.

It is but I wouldn't short it! Will be interesting to see how Ackman gets on with his trade.

lala88 · 14-03-2013 9:41pm

Agent J wrote: »

From interacting with Lala on a different thread around scams I don't think they have a vested financial interest in Banners brokers. They just seem to have a vocal misguided opinion which they cannot support by reasonable argument. Any attempt to explain or question it is met either ignored or met with hostility. If all else fails they'll just try and strawman your arguement.

Not worth your time.

@Fitz123 Hadn't heard of Herbalife but on the surface of it.... MLM is a definite red flag for me. I can see why there would be debate on that one compared to BB. I'd argue it is a scam but a much more sophisitcated one that Banners brokers.

Ah yes your claim that a sales job thats commission only has to be a scam, a subject you admitted to be bias on

No attempt has been made by the people who say its a scam to explain why it is. All thats done is the normal **** you got on here that if someone doesn't agree with something anything else said is wrong. Like i asked before first why is it when someone disagrees with boards posters ther wrong? And second why is it if someone comes on here with 3/4 posts and disagree there told there wrong but when someone with 3/4 posts agrees there right?

Like i said before boards.ie has shown time and time again to be highly bias and one sided when it comes to topics depending on what side there on

martyoo · 14-03-2013 9:43pm

No attempt has been made by the people who say its a scam to explain why it is.

THERE IS NO PRODUCT.

How many times does it have to be said?

lala88 · 14-03-2013 9:49pm

martyoo wrote: »

It is but I wouldn't short it! Will be interesting to see how Ackman gets on with his trade.

Theres a product there. Explain how thats a scam?

Agent J · 14-03-2013 9:53pm

lala88 wrote: »

Ah yes your claim that a sales job thats commission only has to be a scam, a subject you admitted to be bias on

In a thread on MLM (Multi level Marketing) D2D (Door to Door) jobs ?
Bloody sure they are scams. But that's another thread and if you can't see BB is a scam then there is no hope of me trying to convince you of MLM D2D.

And I can admit bias. It's a helpful thing to be able to do.

lala88 wrote: »

No attempt has been made by the people who say its a scam to explain why it is.

That is quite simply bollocks. You have had people try to explain the problem with their business model. The problem with their financing model, the problems with their operations and people involved. You have had links of first hand accounts from other websites and audio podcasts of people involved trying to explain it. You even have had stories (Anedotal) from people who have lost money and admitted it. And those just aren't from boards.ie

There have been people trying to walk you through what their business model is trying to be and where it fails. There have been people trying to engage with you to find out your logic, reasoning & facts to support your argument.

You quite simply will not accept any of it.

martyoo · 14-03-2013 9:58pm

Theres a product there. Explain how thats a scam?

It comes down to your definition of a pyramid scheme.

With Herbalife there is a product but the product is been primarily sold within the distribution network. Also to make money as a distributor you need to signup more distributors.

http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=herbalife&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Check out the link below if you want to read up on it.

http://factsaboutherbalife.com/

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:02pm

Agent J wrote: »

In a thread on MLM (Multi level Marketing) D2D (Door to Door) jobs ?
Bloody sure they are scams. But that's another thread and if you can't see BB is a scam then there is no hope of me trying to convince you of MLM D2D.

And I can admit bias. It's a helpful thing to be able to do.

That is quite simply bollocks. You have had people try to explain the problem with their business model. The problem with their financing model, the problems with their operations and people involved. You have had links of first hand accounts from other websites and audio podcasts of people involved trying to explain it. You even have had stories (Anedotal) from people who have lost money and admitted it. And those just aren't from boards.ie

There have been people trying to walk you through what their business model is trying to be and where it fails. There have been people trying to engage with you to find out your logic, reasoning & facts to support your argument.

You quite simply will not accept any of it.

I work in business sales for Vodafone and its commission only does that mean its a scam?

It would be great if boards with do the same about them being bias on subjects, but that wont be happening. Its strange too that no mobs have said anything on this subject i wonder why that is? Surely not because there bias....

All of the links and other website how many of them showed people losing money? So because one person here has lost money its a scam?

Also answer the question about people with low posts. Why is there a difference between the two?

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:06pm

martyoo wrote: »

It comes down to your definition of a pyramid scheme.

With Herbalife there is a product but the product is been primarily sold within the distribution network. Also to make money as a distributor you need to signup more distributors.

http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=herbalife&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Check out the link below if you want to read up on it.

http://factsaboutherbalife.com/

Going by your logic if i was to say start an Office Supply business and i want to make more money i get more people to sell for me does that mean its a scam or pyramid scheme? In fact the same can be said about almost any product could it not?

Agent J · 14-03-2013 10:08pm

lala88 wrote: »

I work in business sales for Vodafone and its commission only does that mean its a scam?

See this is a perfect example of what i JUST said about strawmanning.

Is your job MLM & D2D ?

martyoo · 14-03-2013 10:13pm

Going by your logic if i was to say start an Office Supply business and i want to make more money i get more people to sell for me does that mean its a scam or pyramid scheme? In fact the same can be said about almost any product could it not?

No. In the case of Herbalife they are lying to their distributors and prospective distributors by making out that there is a viable retail market for their products when there isn't.

How can there be a viable retail market when they are forcing distributors to dump the product on eBay and Craigslist?

Maybe have a read over the link first.

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:16pm

Agent J wrote: »

See this is a perfect example of what i JUST said about strawmanning.

Is your job MLM & D2D ?

Not its with Vodafone themselves. So are Vodafone a scam too now?

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:21pm

martyoo wrote: »

No. In the case of Herbalife they are lying to their distributors and prospective distributors by making out that there is a viable retail market for their products when there isn't.

How can there be a viable retail market when they are forcing distributors to dump the product on eBay and Craigslist?

Maybe have a read over the link first.

Oh so now there forcing them are they? Held a gun point i suppose? Dont see what the eBay link has to do with anything. Maybe the person wanted to sell it on eBay whats wrong with that?

Yes i did read the link. But like most things you could Google that and get results. theres always going to be people who fail and things like that and blame someone else is there not?

Agent J · 14-03-2013 10:22pm

lala88 wrote: »

Not its with Vodafone themselves. So are Vodafone a scam too now?

Irrelevant & Strawman. You haven't answered the question.

Is your job a multi level marketing job which is door to door?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

martyoo · 14-03-2013 10:26pm

Yes i did read the link.

If you had read the link you wouldn't be asking those questions.

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:27pm

Agent J wrote: »

Irrelevant & Strawman. You haven't answered the question.

Is your job a multi level marketing job which is door to door?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I just told you its with Vodafone what part dont you understand? No its not multi level marketing that should be fairly clear seeing as i said it was for Vodafone but then again nothing new for posters here to see what they want.

How answer my question about posters whit low post counts/ Whats the difference?

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:28pm

martyoo wrote: »

If you had read the link you wouldn't be asking those questions.

Surprise surprise you didnt answer the questions. Keep going that way and you'll be a mob in no time, you'd fit into the boards view of things

martyoo · 14-03-2013 10:39pm

Surprise surprise you didnt answer the questions. Keep going that way and you'll be a mob in no time, you'd fit into the boards view of things

Oh so now there forcing them are they? Held a gun point i suppose?

The company has extremely tough return policies and in some countries they won't accept returns. Also the distributor won't get paid if he / she doesn't buy more product so as a result the distributor has no choice but to flog the product off for whatever they can, hence the amount of Herbalife product on eBay. So they are forced into it or else they won't get paid.

Dont see what the eBay link has to do with anything. Maybe the person wanted to sell it on eBay whats wrong with that?

See above.

So lala88 any luck finding a website with a bannersbroker ad?

ResearchWill · 14-03-2013 10:44pm

lala88 wrote: »

Surprise surprise you didnt answer the questions. Keep going that way and you'll be a mob in no time, you'd fit into the boards view of things

God Vodafone are screwing you http://m.jobs.ie/Job/1242307/

I have a number of friends who work for Vodafone b2b and all have a basic. Seems you got the short straw.

Agent J · 14-03-2013 10:44pm

lala88 wrote: »

I just told you its with Vodafone what part dont you understand? No its not multi level marketing that should be fairly clear seeing as i said it was for Vodafone but then again nothing new for posters here to see what they want.

I asked about your job type not your employer. I would think Vodaphone would be above MLM but i thought i'd ask you direct rather than assuming.

Thank you, Now you've finally answered. Guess what, I wasn't talking about your job then. Every time you reference your job and your employer was just an attempt to drag it away from the point and make me argue aganist your job and your employer.

That is a Strawman 101.

lala88 wrote: »

How answer my question about posters whit low post counts/ Whats the difference?

I'm just going to link back in this thread to what someone else said in response to you. It's pretty much my line of thinking just better phrased.

ResearchWill wrote: »

Ok I will try and explain this. If a person with a low post count comes on to promote a company, product or service it will raise suspension. Same if a person comes on with low count to knock a business.

What I then do is to look at post history, if there is none and its a recent account I will usually ignore the poster. In this case both you and the other poster have history of posts not associated with this thread and both accounts are not new, so the issue does not arise. It's really simple if you think it through.

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:44pm

martyoo wrote: »

The company has extremely tough return policies and in some countries they won't accept returns. Also the distributor won't get paid if he / she doesn't buy more product so as a result the distributor has no choice but to flog the product off for whatever they can, hence the amount of Herbalife product on eBay. So they are forced into it or else they won't get paid.

See above.

So lala88 any luck finding a website with a bannersbroker ad?

If there meant to be selling the product how would they get paid if they didn't have it to sell? So there the only company in the world with a tough return policies?

Any luck with find all the people who have lost there money? As has been said here everyone has lost there money...

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:47pm

Agent J wrote: »

I asked about your job type not your employer. I would think Vodaphone would be above MLM but i thought i'd ask you direct rather than assuming.

Thank you, Now you've finally answered. Guess what, I wasn't talking about your job then. Every time you reference your job and your employer was just an attempt to drag it away from the point and make me argue aganist your job and your employer.

That is a Strawman 101.

I'm just going to link back in this thread to what someone else said in response to you. It's pretty much my line of thinking just better phrased.

I told you that at the start but you seemed to ignore that.

Thats not really an answer now is it? It doesnt explain why when someone with a low post count agrees with the others view is taken as true wile when its the other way around there wrong now does it?

martyoo · 14-03-2013 10:48pm

Any luck with find all the people who have lost there money? As has been said here everyone has lost there money...

So you can't answer my question?

lala88 · 14-03-2013 10:52pm

martyoo wrote: »

So you can't answer my question?

Ill answer you when you answer me. I asked ages ago and still no one has answered it, but of course you dont have to answer do you....

martyoo · 14-03-2013 10:59pm

Ill answer you when you answer me. I asked ages ago and still no one has answered it, but of course you dont have to answer do you....

So no then.

Agent J · 14-03-2013 11:00pm

lala88 wrote: »

I told you that at the start but you seemed to ignore that.

Bollocks. Again. But i have no interest in trying to convince you otherwise.

lala88 wrote: »

Thats not really an answer now is it? It doesnt explain why when someone with a low post count agrees with the others view is taken as true wile when its the other way around there wrong now does it?

I could go on about vested interests. The latin phrase "Cui bono" or perhaps when someone is admitting loss it is easier to do it under a cover of a annoymous account. Balance of probabilities etc... However I still treat any of them with skeptisim till have other sources/reasons to confirm/deny.

However it's all a lie.

Your right. We are really just out to get you. There is a massive boards.ie conspiracy centered on you.

ResearchWill · 14-03-2013 11:02pm

lala88 wrote: »

Ill answer you when you answer me. I asked ages ago and still no one has answered it, but of course you dont have to answer do you....

That is because no one has lost money. Madoff operated for 30 years if I rember and no one lost money at the end it was billions missing. Can I prove beyond a doubt that BB is a scam, well at the moment no. Do I know it's a scam yes. If I wanted to could I get the evidence, well ya possibly.

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