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BERLIN MARATHON 29/9/2013
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tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »or get them for next to nothing at the gigantic expo over there...
Just askin, jeez. My luck plays out like this, either there'd be gank gels over there that you wouldn't feed your competition or they'd be sold out
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Just askin, jeez. My luck plays out like this, either there'd be gank gels over there that you wouldn't feed your competition or they'd be sold out
Have you considered trying to wean yourself off them by any chance? I don't take them myself anymore as I never really thought they did anything for me. I think many people take them for the placebo effect (and if that does the job then great!) but I now think if you build up your base miles correctly then you will teach your body to adapt to fat stores rather than the gels. Of course with your running history gels may have a different impact but I'd be a believer in only taking something like that if you really needed it and even then only the rare time.0 -
Have you considered trying to wean yourself off them by any chance? I don't take them myself anymore as I never really thought they did anything for me. I think many people take them for the placebo effect (and if that does the job then great!) but I now think if you build up your base miles correctly then you will teach your body to adapt to fat stores rather than the gels. Of course with your running history gels may have a different impact but I'd be a believer in only taking something like that if you really needed it and even then only the rare time.
I had to broadly smile at your post J, leading into DCM 2011 I ran dry, no gels, no sports drink etc, even ate less than usual the night before long runs in an effort to get the max effect. As you know when you deplete your glycogen reserves you temporarily weaken your immune system, keep training harder and harder without proper recovery and eventually the system gives in. I'm on the way back from full breakdown so I ain't taking any chances. Load me up with them gels there fraulein! 0 -
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Missed out on the first few weeks of my training plan due to injuries but hopefully getting back on track over the last month and better in the last few weeks
Managed 20 mile run today, as much as I wish the heatwave was still here I'm glad it's cooled down a bit for the LSR's I haven't looked into specific warmup races, have a lot of weddings and things at the weekends, will have to try and fit in some somewhere though 0 -
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hey folks, really getting stuck in training now, cant wait for this. Does anyone know anything about the breakfeast run the morning before? I fly in on the Friday and was hoping to participate. Do you need to register for the breakfeast run at the expo?
you will love this marathon.
the breakfast run is worth doing. it starts early on the sat (9:00?) from Charlottenburg Schloss (that's palace, to you and me
). no registration necessary, just turn up with about 4,000 others. a lot of participants bring along their national flags etc, so it might be worth wearing something that marks you out as being Irish, if that tickles your fancy. it all leads to a fairly festive slow 4 miles through the western suburbs until you reach th Olympic Stadion ( the blue track where Usain Bolt lowered the 100m WR to 9.69(?)). great photo ops here. you make your way through the stadium and out the opposite end where a generous and wholesome buffet breakfast awaits.
bring €5 in your back pocket for a single fare back to the city centre (unless you fancy another 4/5 mile run back) - the Olympic Stadion U-bahn is a short walk away, but it will be thronged will like-minded individuals.
word of warning - try get out the front of the breakfast run because (although it is truly a fun run) the pace at the blunt end is leisurely bordering on a stroll. In 2011 when three of us did it, one of us (me) ended up queuing for the loo and it cost us aspot at the front of the run. We ended up weaving in and out for the entire 4 miles despite our conservative pace.
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eliwallach wrote: »you will love this marathon.
the breakfast run is worth doing. it starts early on the sat (9:00?) from Charlottenburg Schloss (that's palace, to you and me). no registration necessary, just turn up with about 4,000 others. a lot of participants bring along their national flags etc, so it might be worth wearing something that marks you out as being Irish, if that tickles your fancy. it all leads to a fairly festive slow 4 miles through the western suburbs until you reach th Olympic Stadion ( the blue track where Usain Bolt lowered the 100m WR to 9.69(?)). great photo ops here. you make your way through the stadium and out the opposite end where a generous and wholesome buffet breakfast awaits.
bring €5 in your back pocket for a single fare back to the city centre (unless you fancy another 4/5 mile run back) - the Olympic Stadion U-bahn is a short walk away, but it will be thronged will like-minded individuals.
word of warning - try get out the front of the breakfast run because (although it is truly a fun run) the pace at the blunt end is leisurely bordering on a stroll. In 2011 when three of us did it, one of us (me) ended up queuing for the loo and it cost us aspot at the front of the run. We ended up weaving in and out for the entire 4 miles despite our conservative pace.
Enjoy it.
Many thanks for this info.
Yes a few members of my club have ran it in the past and have nothing but good things to say about it. I cant wait.
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How do I know which wave I am in ? I am getting really worried about this now. I emailed them and they said that its my first marathon when it isn't
please help!
Then I would suggest emailing them and telling them it is not your first marathon and telling them what time you did before. I know last year they wanted to put CL and digger in a back pen based on their marathon PBs of 3:5x so digger emailed 'updated' PB's of 3:15ish which got them up near the front...anyway if you are in the front 4 or 5 pens you are fine as the start is very efficient.
AFAIR you get an email with a 'registration confirmation' about a month before the race. This is a document you bring to the expo. In one of the corners there is a letter (a,b, c d etc) which is you pen. A is the first pen for elites and I the other pens are staggered downwards.
Anyway if all else fails there is a desk at the expo for moving up pens and it looked to me like they were giving out stickers to all who asked for one.0 -
Very scared about this. What pen did you run from last year ?Then I would suggest emailing them and telling them it is not your first marathon and telling them what time you did before. I know last year they wanted to put CL and digger in a back pen based on their marathon PBs of 3:5x so digger emailed 'updated' PB's of 3:15ish which got them up near the front...anyway if you are in the front 4 or 5 pens you are fine as the start is very efficient.
AFAIR you get an email with a 'registration confirmation' about a month before the race. This is a document you bring to the expo. In one of the corners there is a letter (a,b, c d etc) which is you pen. A is the first pen for elites and I the other pens are staggered downwards.
Anyway if all else fails there is a desk at the expo for moving up pens and it looked to me like they were giving out stickers to all who asked for one.
a 2:20-2:40
b 2:40-2:50
c 2:50 -3
d 3 - 3:15
e 3:15 - 3:30
f 3:30 - 3:50
g 3:50-4:15
h 4:15+ or no PB0 -
Very scared about this. What pen did you run from last year ?
a 2:20-2:40
b 2:40-2:50
c 2:50 -3
d 3 - 3:15
e 3:15 - 3:30
f 3:30 - 3:50
g 3:50-4:15
h 4:15+ or no PB
I think it was D as my PB was 3:10 at the time. I took about 1 minute to cross the start line. CL ran from E I think and she had little or no congestion either. Big tip is to stand to the left of the start pen as most people enter by the right and the left is less congested.
That last pen (H) has about 70% of the field I think and is the only place I would be worried about. But as I say if they place you there then just ask to get moved up at the expo. Now breath deep and chill 0 -
How do I know which wave I am in ? I am getting really worried about this now. I emailed them and they said that its my first marathon when it isn't please help!
I don't think its anything to stress about, the only time a wave should matter to someone is if they are in the sub 3 hour category where you want to head off quick and make sure a daisy chain of backpack wearing aul wans aren't blocking your path. on the flip side of that, you really shouldnt be up there with the elites if you are one of these aul wans, so i think the first wave is the only one that really counts, are you worried you are or are not in this particular wave? are you aiming for a sub 3? if not forget about it, it really doesnt matter all that much to regular runners.
also, berlin is very wide all through so you should be able to drop back or push forward easily enough regardless of what wave you are in, even at the beginning.0 -
I hope to be sub 3 yesMuff Richardson wrote: »I don't think its anything to stress about, the only time a wave should matter to someone is if they are in the sub 3 hour category where you want to head off quick and make sure a daisy chain of backpack wearing aul wans aren't blocking your path. on the flip side of that, you really shouldnt be up there with the elites if you are one of these aul wans, so i think the first wave is the only one that really counts, are you worried you are or are not in this particular wave? are you aiming for a sub 3? if not forget about it, it really doesnt matter all that much to regular runners.
also, berlin is very wide all through so you should be able to drop back or push forward easily enough regardless of what wave you are in, even at the beginning. 0 -
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